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'Rust' armorer breaks silence, doesn't take any responsibility for Alec Baldwin's fatal shot
wnd.com ^ | 10/31/2021 1107 hrs EDT | Amy Liebing

Posted on 10/31/2021 9:18:30 AM PDT by rktman

No one has been charged in the fatal shooting, and Mary Carmack-Altwies, district attorney of Santa Fe County, New Mexico, has highlighted the complexity of the situation.

"We don't know how those live rounds got there," she told CNN. "And I think that that will probably end up being kind of the linchpin for whether a decision is made about charges."

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To: rktman

Not only is she incompetent, but her lawyers are too. How could any lawyer think “I didn’t know” is a defense to a charge of negligent homicide??? That’s pretty much what distinguishes negligent homicide from murder.


121 posted on 10/31/2021 11:55:25 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Blue Highway

With due respect to the late Halyna Hutchins, visually she didn’t seem like his type. Remember, this is the guy who was married to Kim Bassinger. Hilaria is annoying as heck, but she has a certain ‘Come Hither’ quality too. But looks can deceive.


122 posted on 10/31/2021 12:03:35 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: rktman

Yes it was the guns fault. It’s ‘’gun violence’’.

That’s what the left always says it is.

Gun violence.

If there just weren’t no guns there would be no violence.

And SUVs.

Liberals tell us SUV’s are always causing accidents.

Those SUVs are bad. Can’t have those.

Liberals are nuts.


123 posted on 10/31/2021 12:11:36 PM PDT by jmacusa (America.Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: rktman

If you hand me a firearm and tell me it’s unloaded (cold) and if I point it at someone and pull the trigger murdering that person - who do you think would be sitting in a jail cell? There may be an argument that you were an accessory, but, I pulled the trigger on a homicide and would have been arrested, arraigned and indicted faster than I could say, “it was an accident.” But even if I was released (unlikely) I would not be allowed to leave the state (and probably not the county). This is Bull Sugar! Baldwin should be in jail awaiting a preliminary hearing to determine if his neglence merits bail or if he’s a rich flight risk. No average citizen would be treated like this. More, “Rules for thee but not for me”.


124 posted on 10/31/2021 12:29:19 PM PDT by Drumbo ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats." - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: greeneyes

Lots of stories but, I agree, I have heard nothing DEFINITIVE about it.


125 posted on 10/31/2021 1:05:04 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: rktman

She should never work as an armorer again.
Baldwin’s insurance should cost too much for him to ever be a producer again.
The assistant director that picked up the gun, and handed it to Baldwin declaring it safe, should never work on a movie again.
Every insurance company involved should pay the max.

And the union thug that sabotaged the gun should be hunted down and hanged, and his union disbanded.


126 posted on 10/31/2021 1:11:01 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: lee martell

Yeh, it could be the union people when they walked off. It is definitely key who put the bullet in there and why. Or it could have been set up to blame the union. There are also a lot of people who do not like Baldwin. It seems like either intentional or someone was playing with the fancy guns shooting them. What other explanations are there for live bullets being there?

As far as Baldwin goes, I like where a newspaper said “the gun somehow went off when he was holding it”. It seems most likely he was playing with guns and deliberately fired what he thought was an unloaded one. It is hard to hit 2 other big shots on the production with 1 bullet firing at random by accident.


127 posted on 10/31/2021 1:32:10 PM PDT by xxqqzz
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To: Fai Mao
< i>She is as guilty as Baldwin

Amazing how you can know for a fact that Baldwin did not in fact sneak the rounds into the pistol himself.

128 posted on 10/31/2021 1:38:34 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: realcleanguy

So, down at the gun club, we will put our pistols in a bag, and blindfolded, pick one , load it, and return it.

Better yet, invite another gun club over and swap bags (wearing rubber gloves).

Load and return.

So - Who loaded that gun?


129 posted on 10/31/2021 1:39:38 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: itsahoot

He would have to be able to count to six, or navigate that round to be under the hammer.

Both doubtful.


130 posted on 10/31/2021 1:47:35 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Silly company rules do not overcome law.


131 posted on 10/31/2021 2:30:40 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: Scrambler Bob
Both doubtful.

It is not like he hasn't used one before. Apparently he ordered the live amp that they used to plink away. Besides I din't say he did but just that you implied he didn't with zero evidence.

132 posted on 10/31/2021 3:51:22 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: Pollard
"We don't know how those live rounds got there," she told CNN. "And I think that that will probably end up being kind of the linchpin for whether a decision is made about charges."

Let's turn everything on its head. The armorer is implying that lack of knowledge excuses poor performance.

The reality is that the armorer had a DUTY to be knowledgeable about what was loaded into the weapon, regardless of whether or not there were live rounds on the set. The media, as always, takes the side of the liberals, and fails to ask the right question when the situation just begs for it.

The mere EXISTENCE of live rounds in the universe creates the duty to check the weapon EVERY SINGLE TIME. If I were writing their protocol I would spell out that it doesn't matter what you believe, it doesn't matter what you think, it doesn't matter what you KNEW. The only thing that matters is that you check the gun for safety every time the protocol dictates that it should be checked.

133 posted on 10/31/2021 4:42:08 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: Blue Highway

She sounds like the stereotypical millennial idiot. Never taking responsibility for her actions or in this case inactions. Isn’t she directly responsible for checking for live rounds or any rounds in the chamber before giving custody of the weapon to the actor using it for a scene?

To be honest, when a millennium hands me food in a drive through, I check it. Baldwin f’d up and trusted her. He also aimed the gun and pulled the trigger. Sorry but thats 80% of the responsibility


134 posted on 10/31/2021 5:31:58 PM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian ( Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less! )
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To: William Tell
The definition says it all;

Basically top to bottom but closely related in knowledge, manufacturer to gunsmith to armorer. She really should have studied every firearm to the point of knowing them inside and out that she was going to deal with. Other part of the job is securing them at all times, especially around a bunch of un-knowledgeable people.

IMHO, every actor should be taught by the armorer about every individual weapon they'll use and also basic firearm safety.

135 posted on 10/31/2021 5:47:21 PM PDT by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: navymom1; gloryblaze; wardaddy

Alec Baldwin is undeserving of empathy because he’s never been charitable to another human being. That being said it’s very unlikely that he will even be charged for the woman’s death, much less convicted.

Movie companies hire armorers and ADs to inspect and clear guns, they don’t train actors to do it. Kirstey Alley has mentioned doing it but her experience doesn’t seem typical. Movie sets aren’t shooting ranges and the rules for handling guns having live ammunition aren’t normally applied to sets.

Baldwin may not even have any exposure as a producer. That will depend on if he had any role in running the production. He’s actually a co-producer, he may be one of many co-producers, and the production company may have simply been using his name to help get funding.


136 posted on 10/31/2021 7:46:22 PM PDT by Pelham (The Catlady School of Medicine. Pretense is prerequisite.)
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To: itsahoot

If she had done her job, that would have been impossible.

I looked up the regulations. She was supposed to have the gun locked up, checked it when it was taken out, handed it to him personally, waited for him to check it, and both sign off that it was cold. That did not happen. Baldwin is responsible, but so is she and so is the assistant director.


137 posted on 10/31/2021 8:02:30 PM PDT by Fai Mao (I don't think we have enough telephone poles., )
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To: rktman
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138 posted on 10/31/2021 11:41:09 PM PDT by wardaddy (Too many uninformed ..and scolds here )
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To: Pelham

I won’t go into a lot of detail because this is not the place for it, but I really need to share at least a tiny personal bit. Not being able to harbor empathy for another human being runs counter to EVERYTHING in my soul. Yet Baldwin makes it almost impossible. I have to check myself to keep from actively rooting for his total demise. That’s horrible even though Alec Baldwin’s Narcissism, from what I’ve discerned and seen throughout the media, is pervasively evil. My goodness, he can’t even hide it well.

I’ve only witnessed Baldwin’s depth of Narcissistic Personality in two other people in all my 61 years. Liars all and the most manipulative, controlling, totally destructive, grind you under their heel with glee, evil personalities. How does anyone harbor empathy for that? You don’t. Can you imagine the destruction he has wrought in the lives of his children? We all know about and many have listened to the audio of his voicemail to Ireland Baldwin. For that single instance there has to be a million and one other instances of destructive behavior that we are not privy to. No empathy.


139 posted on 11/01/2021 5:58:16 AM PDT by navymom1
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To: BipolarBob
But he did not.

There you go folks, we have our fall guy. But what I want to know is who took the blanks out and put the live rounds in? That is my question. But yes the gun should have been checked again by both Hall and Baldwin. It's an 1850's revolver and easy to check.

140 posted on 11/01/2021 6:17:17 AM PDT by jpsb
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