Inside the mind of one of my very smart pro-vax friends

substack.com ^ | August 22, 2022 | Steve Kirsch

[ransomnote]

Here's how they think. It's 100% based on deference to authority. If you ask them for data to back up their claims, they stop responding.

Steve Kirsch

Aug 22

 

 

 

I recently talked to a friend of mine at a recent social event. We’ll call him Bob. He’s super smart about most things. But when it comes to the vaccine, he’s blind to the truth.

He was bragging about how he has been vaxxed 6 times with the COVID vax and he’s perfectly healthy. He can’t wait for SB 866 in California to pass so when his kids turn 12, they can decide to get the vaccine over their mother’s objections.

Bob thinks I’m a nut case, cherry picking data. He says I used to be respected, but after turning anti-vax, people have lost all respect for me. He said I have a religious belief about the vaccine and I’m not driven by data.

What he isn’t telling anyone is that he’s been losing his vision ever since he got his first COVID vaccine. He used to have 20/20 vision, but now he wears glasses and can’t drive at night. When I brought up the data showing the connection between the shots and vision loss, he changed the topic.

I showed him two papers showing the more you vaccinate, the sicker you get (see the two papers here). I asked, “Where are the papers that show the opposite?” He ignored my request.

He gets his belief system from the mainstream media. Full stop. He reasons that if I was correct, surely Bill Gates would agree with me and admit they goofed. It’s 100% deference to authority.

MORE AT LINK: https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/inside-the-mind-of-one-of-my-very

 

[Allegra]

I sneezed. She jerked her face toward me in shock, and immediately pulled her mask up over her face.

LOL. That’s hilarious if it happened in 2020 but even funnier if this was recent. 😂

[John Robinson]

There is smart and then there is booksmart. They are not the same. Author has these confused.

[gas_dr]

Post #35 -- metmom "But broad brushing people is so much more satisfying."

Post #78 weird clot threat -- metmom again "It’s too bad you have walked so lockstep with your leadership’s destructive guidelines for addressing Covid. If you are a real doctor, you could have actually been doing some good for people otherwise."

Do you ever stop to think about what you say, or is it just such a Pavlovian response that you cannot help yourself. Now that I have rung this bell, I am certain I can predict your next statement. I have actually been privately emailing to some what the predicted replies of you and the Q theorists are, and I have yet to be wrong. It is stunning.

All aboard the group think express. And just for your reading enjoyment since you no doubt do not read anything that is not lockstep....

From Lakeshark "I communicated with gd early on during the Covid wars (on FR). I explained, via Freepmail, why I was unvaccinated, and chose to be in spite of my age. I had good health, a robust immune system, nad was hesitant to be a guinea pig with a first generation vaccine. He did not agree with me 100%, but shared that he considered my position to be a solid, and sane one. He also shared that if I got Covid, I should move directly to taking Monoclonals, and as quick as possible. I have been in disagreement with gd in a fair amount of areas, but have never seen him as a shill for anyone, simply as an earnest advocate."

I have now presented to you your very words are in conflict with yourself, and a third party who privately communicated with me and then chose to, after your abuse, share with the forum my very consistent beliefs and statements over time. Things that have demonstrably helped and saved patients all while advocating that vaccines should not be mandatory, and letting the data lead to what is the superior treatment. You keep shilling for Steve Kirsch, Ivermectin which is inferior to monoclonals, and pronouncing great deceits.

These are the facts, and backed up with evidence. SO go ahead, call me a yelping dog again, when it is you who is not truthful.

[Jane Long]

What about the guy on the motorcycle.....wearing a mask....because he’s so skeert....but....no helmut?

😂

[gas_dr]

Their slander is breathtaking, their cowardice is even more stunning that they cannot dare to speak to us directly, jsut their ongoing slander and libel. Didnt you get the bang out of one of them being glad I weas doxxed. Then blaming me for it? Talk about a liberal in a freeper clothing.

[gas_dr]

OK, roving, prove my lie. You got the goods, lets have it. You have said I have lied about my direct observation. Name the hospital, the time frame and the number of patients who I have deceived you about. I insist. Tell us all right now which hospital in what time frame and the percentage of patients who died while vaxxed that I personally observed.

I have had enough of being called a liar. The burden is on you to prove my deceit. As you have unilaterally said I have lied, back it up.

[metmom]

NH has no motorcycle helmet laws so most people ride without.

I always cringe when I see that.

But so far have not yet seen a motorcyclist wearing a mask and no helmet.

[Jane Long]

I saw a pic someone posted, the other day. Had to LOL at the pretzel logic.

[rolling_stone]

There is smart and then there is booksmart. They are not the same. Author has these confused.

correct, and there is street smart, and there is justice and street justice

[gas_dr]

You know whats even more amazing — fund raising is stalled at 60% for three days and only up from 58% over the week. Used to be people rallied and brought the money in. Since the place has become Steve Krisch is god to the Q theorists, and their free reign to insult very long time freepers, one has to wonder if they do not see the correlation between their behavior and the reaction of the free market. One of them even said it was my responsibility to spend money as not contributing was Alinskyesque.

They certainly have lost touch with their conservative roots, their faith and their civilty. At least there are many who I hear from privately that kindly say they know the 411 on them and encourage me to continue my work to educate despite the rule breaking abuse. But you are right, nothing will change.

[ChildOfThe60s]

Informed choice is a key variable in this whole discussion.

IMO, the pushers of this drug have deliberately done what they can to deny people sufficient information so that they can indeed make an informed choice.

The most egregious slight of hand has been to label an experimental drug as a vaccine. I won’t go into any other aspects of the policy of misrepresenting information or the heavy handed process of pushing the drug.

For my wife and I a top tier reason we avoided it is a simple, long standing policy we both have. No drugs that have not been in general use for 10 years after (proper) testing and approval. I have other objections but even if I had no other reasons, that is the deal breaker all by itself.

I have seen too many drugs over my lifetime that were supposed to be so great and after a few years were realized to be bad, or even horrible.

Informed choice requires that the average person is freely given access to the information required to make an informed decision. I don’t believe that has been the case with this drug. One should not have to be a research junkie to be an informed consumer.

[erkelly]

You are not a doctor.

[Jane Long]

Meltdown clean up on aisle 6.

🙃

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

I got the original shots in March and April of 2021. I had no boosters, nor do I plan to get any unless the “new code” one that just came out is safer. But, speaking of vision, I’ve had floaters in my eyes for years, but recently, they seem to have multiplied. There is quite the number of them, although they still don’t really interfere with my vision.

I also was discovered to be starting to get cataracts in my last eye appointment around April 2021. My vision does blur up some at a distance sometimes, which is a symptom of cataracts. Said cataracts are probably more from my Lasik surgery back in 2005 than the shots.

But since you mentioned vision problems, I thought I would share. And what is it with that dude getting SIX shots (2 + 4 boosters, all of the same code)? That’s crazy!

[grey_whiskers]

You keep shilling for Steve Kirsch, Ivermectin which is inferior to monoclonals, and pronouncing great deceits.

At what stage in the infection process were the patients you treated with Ivermectin; did you also use zinc; and did they tend to have other cormobidities?

If you were to say "in my clinical experience, inferior to..." well, ok. Maybe, maybe not. But universally? Naaah, you're not in a position to say that on the basis of just your own patients.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Didn’t you know? The new Omicron strains can penetrate solid glass, silly!

[bagster]

i have also pinged they others slandered here.

Your posse?

#TheUsualSuspects

[Jane Long]

Thanks for the links to the Owens/Malone interview.

[bagster]

I will be honorable enough to not post names that I do not ping.

Oh, all of a sudden you like to be pinged? Okay.

[metmom]

For my wife and I a top tier reason we avoided it is a simple, long standing policy we both have. No drugs that have not been in general use for 10 years after (proper) testing and approval. I have other objections but even if I had no other reasons, that is the deal breaker all by itself.

Can you say Vioxx?

That is wisdom and a good argument to use when your doctor pushes you to get vaxxed.