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1 posted on 11/22/2023 7:47:07 PM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan

No, DJT was.


2 posted on 11/22/2023 7:48:51 PM PST by madison10 (He watching over Israel slumbers not, nor sleeps.)
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To: RandFan

JFK wasn’t ever really elected.


3 posted on 11/22/2023 7:50:00 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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It is pretty well accepted that he won with voter fraud in Chicago so. Who was president before him? Maybe that was the last real one. Probably not. We live in the matrix. Nothing is what we think it is.


4 posted on 11/22/2023 7:50:23 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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But if Alex Jones tells you something, well then, I guess you better believe it.


5 posted on 11/22/2023 7:50:40 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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Hogwash...
Baloney...
Take your pick...


8 posted on 11/22/2023 7:53:13 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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No.

LBJ reduced our gold reserves by 59% in just 4 years with stroke of the pen, law of the land.

What is that if not real power?

10 posted on 11/22/2023 7:54:12 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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In all honesty the last real President was Calvin Coolidge end of story! Certainly the last true Conservative and Pro Capitalist President in the last 100 years.


11 posted on 11/22/2023 7:54:54 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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Here’s a fun fact. There were 2 SCOTUS justices that voted against Roe Vs Wade in 1973. One of these prolife justices was nominated by JFK.

Most of the pro abortion justices at the time (and afterwards) were appointed by a Republican.


12 posted on 11/22/2023 7:56:07 PM PST by MNDude
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No. It’s his usual blather


19 posted on 11/22/2023 8:02:28 PM PST by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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well. ‘real’ Presidents (and Kings) through out history have often received the point of a sword or a bullet in more recent times. it’s a very good indicator.

of course, the last President in the US to receive a bullet was the Great RR. and he was definitely a real president.


22 posted on 11/22/2023 8:06:59 PM PST by dadfly ( )
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What did he accomplish?
1. Tax breaks
2. Bay of Pigs
3. Cuban Missle Crisis
4. Banged Marilyn Monroe and lots of other pretty gals
5. Got MM bumped off
6. Got assassinated by the commies
7. His acolytes created the ridiculous “Camelot” myth


23 posted on 11/22/2023 8:07:04 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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>> [JFK] was the last REAL president in the sense that they could (back then) actually run things, make decisions/appointments, decide policy etc.

If he was the last REAL president, who could actually run things, how then did his own CIA, who worked for HIM, accomplish his assassination?


26 posted on 11/22/2023 8:10:04 PM PST by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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27 posted on 11/22/2023 8:12:15 PM PST by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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Reagan was real. So was Trump. But for Reagan, they had Bush there to watch him. Every president has had a JFK suspect or Warren Commission member as veep, or as CIA head.


36 posted on 11/22/2023 8:22:40 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Reagan was real. So was Trump. But for Reagan, they had Bush there to watch him. Every president has had a JFK suspect or Warren Commission member as veep, or as CIA head.


37 posted on 11/22/2023 8:22:46 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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RE: last real president....

I am more and more of the opinion that Joe Biden is going to be 100% cgi soon. No more embarrassing “gaffes” such as total disorientation, goofy speech remarks and probably 1-2 hours of staged “work” followed by seclusion and a “lid”.

Biden 2.0 will be muscular, have incredible endurance, have a gift of witty repartee and one liners and a charm that won’t quit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyFcJcZiaU


39 posted on 11/22/2023 8:24:12 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging.It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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In a strange paradox, the US Congress, over the decades, has weakened the presidency by the granting the executive branch more powers.

Abraham Lincoln only had to deal with seven secretaries in his cabinet. Trump had 15 secretaries, three directors, two administrators, and one trade representative in his cabinet.

So on paper it seems like the president has gained more power, but in fact, it is the permanent government bureaucracy (deep state) which has increased power and regularly exercises this power by limiting executive decisions.

Eventually, this structure will have to be overturned. A sclerotic bureaucracy that is primarily concerned with its own survival and interests cannot respond to the needs of the citizens and a quickly-changing world.
42 posted on 11/22/2023 8:25:47 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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Kennedy didn't rock the boat. He kept J. Edgar Hoover and Allen Dulles. He had Republicans in his cabinet. Nobody else was rocking the boat much either.

Nixon got in trouble with the permanent government and it broke him. Reagan was able to handle them and they didn't break him. I guess Clinton was able to control them too.

If presidents are more troubled now, it's not just the Deep State. It's also all the activist groups. Challenge either and you're in for trouble.

64 posted on 11/22/2023 9:31:47 PM PST by x (Хвалу и клевету приемли равнодушно, И не оспоривай глупца.)
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Nixon. Trump.


72 posted on 11/22/2023 10:42:40 PM PST by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. Even more so)
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I remember clearly that Reagan and Bush the sr were at each others throats before the convention....they seem to hate each other....

I often wonder why Reagan took on Bushie for Vp....I believe he was forced to.....

so there might be some truth to what Jones says....

we let the flying bocci idiots and the cutthroats international association take over our country...

75 posted on 11/22/2023 11:40:08 PM PST by cherry
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