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Why the Panama Canal is Dying
Real Life Lore ^ | 8/2/24

Posted on 04/07/2024 2:24:40 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

Why shipping choke points like Panama are FUBAR and getting worse. Long, detailed explanation of all the problems.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


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KEYWORDS: canals; commerce; freight; pacificatlantic; panama; panamacanal; shipping; supply
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To: erkelly
The canal is dying because the US doesn’t own and operate it anymore. I remember well when Carter gave it away. All the intelligentsia were in favor of this, even William Buckley but the American people were almost unanimously opposed.

The British gave up Hong Kong. We gave up the Panama Canal.

Pretty hard for us to justify on keeping the canal now that the age of colonialism is over.

21 posted on 04/07/2024 3:49:31 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Even if they fit horizontally there’s still the displacement. Bigger ships need more water to float them, this has to be available and takes time. One way or the other there’s a maximum capacity that canal can handle.


22 posted on 04/07/2024 3:56:20 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Pocketdoor

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitzcarraldo


23 posted on 04/07/2024 3:59:15 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Yes, Nicaragua is the obvious solution. Their government is so consistently a friend of the United States.

/sarc

24 posted on 04/07/2024 4:05:29 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Things can change. Just look at El Salvador. Maybe the Chinese will get involved and build the canal for them.


25 posted on 04/07/2024 4:07:01 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Eleutheria5

I thought glaciers were melting and sea level was rising?

Another 100 years, and the Pacific Ocean will meet the Gulf of Mexico - 25 feet ABOVE Panama.


26 posted on 04/07/2024 4:15:14 PM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: zeestephen; Kaslin; BenLurkin; Liz; Red Badger; SunkenCiv

No. The actual measured real-world global average sea level rise remains near constant at 2.4 - 2.5 mm per year since the first accurate measurements began in the 1920’s.

2.5 mm/year.
1 inch in ten years.
10 inches per century. 7.5 inches higher by year 2100.
1 meter in 400 years.


27 posted on 04/07/2024 4:24:14 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: al baby

Think of the changes in weather if they actually did it! I can hear the screaming now....The later plan was to place nuclear bombs in a line across Nicaragua and set them off.


28 posted on 04/07/2024 4:25:34 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ge0ffrey

Mexico has been given a massive reward for invading our nation buy the chomo in chief and California. When California and Chomo Joe force electric rigs Mexico has time to build their infrastructure to take on the West Coast Bound freighters and ship them up to Arizona, New MeHEEco, or Texas.


29 posted on 04/07/2024 4:38:01 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: zeestephen

Alas, it it isn’t to be. It would mean gainful employment for stupid people with strong backs, building dykes. It would mean more fish, longer growing seasons for more diverse crops. And, yes, the salvation of the Panama Canal. But global warming is a fraud. Sob. How dare you!, globe. Warm!


30 posted on 04/07/2024 4:38:41 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The Chinese have been involved in the planning of such a canal for some time. Whether it actually happens is another story.


31 posted on 04/07/2024 4:50:15 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: taxcontrol

Watch the video. It’s pretty fascinating. It explains how much water it requires to move a ship through the canal and it’s a phenomenal amount that desalination plants are unlikely to be able to supply. One ship passing through the canal uses as much water as 500,000 Panamanians do in a day. Roughly 36 ships use the canal each day during normal times. Also Lake Gatan supplies about half drinking water of Panama as well as water to operate the canal.


32 posted on 04/07/2024 5:17:06 PM PDT by chickenlips (Neuter your politicians)
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To: Rockingham

Salt water ruins the lock mechanisms so they use fresh water.


33 posted on 04/07/2024 5:40:32 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Yes, at times the government of Nicaragua was friendly. By them I assume you mean Nicaragua. I don’t think a canal in El Salvador would do much good...couldn’t reach the Atlantic side.


34 posted on 04/07/2024 7:11:26 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Mean Daddy

I did not know that.


35 posted on 04/07/2024 7:17:58 PM PDT by Rockingham (`)
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To: Mean Daddy

I had not thought about that. Salt water is corrosive.


36 posted on 04/07/2024 7:21:23 PM PDT by sport
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To: Robert A Cook PE

If so...why is the Plymouth Rock still above water level? I believe that the “scientists “ are full of sh**...mainly influenced by grant money.


37 posted on 04/07/2024 8:11:54 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp??)
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To: monkeyshine

Awesome!!!! Thanks!


38 posted on 04/08/2024 12:18:58 AM PDT by Pocketdoor
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Another limit was that the ships had to be low enough to clear the Brooklyn bridge. Even if they weren’t built there, they still could be later sent there for repairs.


39 posted on 04/08/2024 12:34:51 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes” - Possibly Mark Twain.)
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To: Ge0ffrey
e2open’s cloud-native global platform for supply chains connects more than 480,000 manufacturing, logistics, channel and distribution partners in multienterprise networks tracking over 15 billion transactions annually.

Word salad puffery. They're old coots if they are bragging about using a mainframe architecture. They really need to drop in Alien Intelligence references instead.

AI could actually make this thing work. Robots can work both faster and slower than humans depending on the energy consumption advantage. AI slow robots could unload and load ships in parallel, using less strength and energy requirements. The dockworkers union won't let that happen in the USA, so Mexico, with their poor class having all migrated to socialist Amerika, might be the future.

40 posted on 04/08/2024 1:37:40 AM PDT by Reeses
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