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Make Peace With Pot
NY Times ^ | April 26, 2004 | ERIC SCHLOSSER

Posted on 04/26/2004 2:22:46 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: William Terrell; philman_36
To: William Terrell

That is some pretty interesting stuff there Bill. I went back to the other threads where you've got this up. Very interesting indeed.
932 posted on 04/28/2004 7:01:03 PM PDT by philman_36

Seems to be a sort of '9 to 5' posting pattern, which seems to be typical of certain overly conformist types around here.

Perhaps its indicative of the bureaucratic mind at work.

961 posted on 04/29/2004 7:38:03 AM PDT by P_A_I
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To: jmc813
Hey tkd, I realize you're new around here,

He's the Version 4 of the MrLeroy pro-drug propaganda, forum interface software package.

962 posted on 04/29/2004 7:39:26 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: P_A_I
Seems to be a sort of '9 to 5' posting pattern, which seems to be typical of certain overly conformist types around here. Perhaps its indicative of the bureaucratic mind at work.

You nailed 'the kings dead' right on the head! Along with a few of the other pro-drug spammers that only post from their workdesk.

963 posted on 04/29/2004 7:42:33 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: P_A_I
Seems to be a sort of '9 to 5' posting pattern,

Provide a basis for you claim.

964 posted on 04/29/2004 7:45:01 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA; P_A_I
P_A_I, I believe you've hit a nerve.
965 posted on 04/29/2004 7:49:59 AM PDT by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
You missed my point completely. You were arguing from a "majority of people favor the drug war" angle. We live in a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy.
966 posted on 04/29/2004 7:51:55 AM PDT by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: cinFLA
He's the Version 4 of the MrLeroy pro-drug propaganda, forum interface software package.

I have no idea what you're talking aboot.

967 posted on 04/29/2004 7:52:35 AM PDT by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
the public by and large still wants nothing to do with legalizing illegal drugs. The issue when brought to the polls is defeated time and time again.

You can resort to saying "the people don't want it" when the ONDCP propaganda office is closed down and the Nixon-commissioned report concluding that marijuana should be decriminalized is released to the public.

Otherwise this is as irrelevant to what is truly in the best interest of the country as when the Democrats make the perennial claim that Republicans are going to take away grandma's Social Security.

968 posted on 04/29/2004 7:54:14 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: jmc813; A CA Guy
the dude lecturing you on being a liberal was one of (R)nold's biggest supporters here on FR during the recall. He also believes in a "resonable amount" of gun control.

I thought I smelled a phony "conservative."

969 posted on 04/29/2004 7:57:10 AM PDT by The kings dead (O.C.-Old Cracker:"It's time for some of our freedoms to get curtailed for the sake of the Republic.")
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To: jmc813
So our elected representatives are pulling the wool over our eyes? How does that cause the public when they go to the polls on illegal drug issues, to vote those issues down time after time?
970 posted on 04/29/2004 8:16:44 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
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To: P_A_I
You were interested in Roscoe.


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971 posted on 04/29/2004 8:17:18 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
I suppose that you have a program that keeps track on this sort of information. But man, even with a computer keeping track of this for you, I have got to wonder if you really have a life?
972 posted on 04/29/2004 8:39:26 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
So our elected representatives are pulling the wool over our eyes? How does that cause the public when they go to the polls on illegal drug issues, to vote those issues down time after time?

What caused the public when they went to the polls to elect Bill Clinton twice? Did they really want Bill Clinton, or did they want the image of who and what they'd been told Bill Clinton was?

973 posted on 04/29/2004 8:52:20 AM PDT by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: tacticalogic
"First. It is unnecessary to repeat what has frequently been said by this court with respect to the complete and paramount character of the power confided to Congress to regulate commerce among the several states. It is of the essence of this power that, where it exists, it dominates. Interstate trade was not left to be destroyed or impeded by the rivalries of local government. The purpose was to make impossible the recurrence of the evils which had overwhelmed the Confederation, and to provide the necessary basis of national unity by insuring 'uniformity of regulation against conflicting and discriminating state legislation.'

"It is for Congress to supply the needed correction where the relation between intrastate and interstate rates presents the evil to be corrected, and this it may do completely, by reason of its control over the interstate carrier in all matters having such a close and substantial relation to interstate commerce that it is necessary or appropriate to exercise the control for the effective government of that commerce."
-- Mr. Justice Hughes, the Shreveport Rate Case, 20 years before FDR's "New Deal Commerce Clause".

974 posted on 04/29/2004 8:55:26 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: tacticalogic
What caused the public when they went to the polls to elect Bill Clinton twice? Did they really want Bill Clinton, or did they want the image of who and what they'd been told Bill Clinton was?

I am not sure they wanted either. Bush the first would have won be it not for Ross Perot.

975 posted on 04/29/2004 9:13:05 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
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To: fourdeuce82d
PING
976 posted on 04/29/2004 9:13:56 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
So our elected representatives are pulling the wool over our eyes? How does that cause the public when they go to the polls on illegal drug issues, to vote those issues down time after time?

How does walking blind through a pitch black room cause one to stub their toe or trip and fall?

977 posted on 04/29/2004 9:14:31 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: tacticalogic
The WOD has not been challenged in the USSC on violation of Commerce Clause grounds.....

If you oppose the wod on federal grounds, what is your opinion of states' rights to make and enact laws regulating illegal drugs?

978 posted on 04/29/2004 9:15:58 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
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To: tdadams
How does walking blind through a pitch black room cause one to stub their toe or trip and fall?

If the public voted in laws legalizing all illegal drugs, would you accept their judgement?

979 posted on 04/29/2004 9:17:37 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
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To: robertpaulsen
This is a case dealing with actual commerce and regulation of rail rates. This is entirely consistent with the original intent of the Commerce Clause, in that it deals with regulation required to establish an efficient infrastructure necessary for the process of commerce to take place. Find a case where Congress seeks to regulate something that is neither being bought or sold, on the grounds that it is "potentially interstate commerce" prior to the New Deal, and you'll have a case.
980 posted on 04/29/2004 9:21:07 AM PDT by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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