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Not so ‘Free Republic’: The Shot Heard Around the Net
The Conservative Voice ^ | Feb 11, 2005 | by William Gheen, President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC

Posted on 02/11/2005 10:55:36 AM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: Howlin
"I'm tempted to create a second ID called something like OpenToIllegals and go agree with everything Howlin and the other Bushbots (i.e. Republibots) say. It would drive them crazy."

You've got SUCH a talent for getting on the wingnuts' nerves.

401 posted on 02/11/2005 12:50:50 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: trisham

...Was there a poll I missed? I love it when people create their own statistics...

Actually there was. I saw it the other day. The two largest precentages were against illegal immigration, and for sealing up the borders.

Isn't that opposite of what this article is saying, or is it just me? :-)


402 posted on 02/11/2005 12:51:11 PM PST by planekT
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To: Right Wing Professor

Right Wing Professor:

Never said all dissent was purged, just many. I also noted that the majority of FR users share your opinion on this matter.

William


403 posted on 02/11/2005 12:51:27 PM PST by William Gheen
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To: theDentist; Spiff; Sloth
Apparently, your comprehension leaves much to be desired as well.

Yep. Caught by Sloth and admitted my error. I skpped right over the "they're" and read it as "you're."

In my (rather lame) defense, I have had 3 corneal transplants, still have to wear painful contact lenses and reading glasses to read at all (and they obviously ain't cutting it right now) and am considered legally blind. However, that should simply make me read posts, word by word, MANY TIMES before I fly off the handle.

Sorry about that.

Returning to the garden to continue my worm diet...

404 posted on 02/11/2005 12:51:29 PM PST by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: Bella_Bru

The family is the key, I think. The Jamaicans have their family back in Jamaica, so they want to go back. Plus, they want to live in Jamaica and the money they make here goes a long way. A lot of illegals here do go back and forth because they have family in Mexico and want to be there. If workers can come in, without their families, and go back after a time, it could be a lot more effective than what is going on now.


405 posted on 02/11/2005 12:51:37 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: sauropod

Roger that...


406 posted on 02/11/2005 12:52:00 PM PST by subterfuge (Call him "Slick Willie"---he hates that. On second though, he's probably lying.)
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To: William Gheen

Go away troll.


407 posted on 02/11/2005 12:52:31 PM PST by atruelady
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To: StarCMC

StarCMC:

I am not a FR troll. I have participated on FR for several years and my last account ALIPAC was banned and all threads were pulled and I did not violate any written rule posted on FR.

William Gheen


408 posted on 02/11/2005 12:53:01 PM PST by William Gheen
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To: William Gheen; MeekOneGOP

Wonder if the kitties will let you stay this time?


409 posted on 02/11/2005 12:53:26 PM PST by RushCrush (If it takes a bloodbath, let's get it over with. No more appeasement. - Reagan)
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To: Jim Robinson

What a load of Bravo Sierra.

I've been posting FR since before the election. I'm an open and notorious Democrat who also happens to disagree with open borders. And yet I'm still here, posting away.

I guess it's possible that the mod's just haven't noticed me, but I seriously doubt it. I post too much and I'm sure the "Democrat" in my user name is something of a red flag.

We all post at Jim Rob's sufferance. If he wants to zot you because he wakes up in a bad mood, that's his right. So far, I have no complaints about the treatment. I run into some jerks, but the administration of the site has been fair to me.


410 posted on 02/11/2005 12:53:34 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Rumors of the demise of the conservative Democrat have been greatly exaggerated)
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To: William Gheen
William- I am not sure what to make of that.. because I was HOT about this issue and posted about it-lashing out for a bit in a venting tantrum.

Seriously.... I never heard a peep from Jim about it. And I am no one. I would question what you have been told. GOP insiders. They do not just get thrown to the curb.

411 posted on 02/11/2005 12:53:58 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: William Gheen

What say you Jim?


412 posted on 02/11/2005 12:54:19 PM PST by dcnd9
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To: Jim Robinson
New members of Free Republic and those that are not aware of Robinson’s covert attempts to stifle debate should be warned.

That's it...I've been warned. I'm not posting here anymore due to the 'stifling tactics' of the evil JRo ;-)

413 posted on 02/11/2005 12:54:30 PM PST by evad
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To: Mo1
"Am I close minded ?? "

No, no! Being closed minded means you're set in your ways, which means you're getting old...it's all relative, remember. Stubborness helps. I REFUSE to get old until I say I'm old enough to be old...which won't happen for a while yet, even on those days when I wake up feeling like a run-down 99.

414 posted on 02/11/2005 12:54:55 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: William Gheen

Your post deserved to be yanked. I saw it. I looked at your site. You wrote an article, put it on your own website and touted it as NEWS. What a joke. Go back to your little disgruntled friends. They're missing you.


415 posted on 02/11/2005 12:55:13 PM PST by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: jmc813
That said, I feel that JackelopeBreeder was a valuable asset to this forum, and was one of the most civil participants on either side of the issue. Perhaps he could be reinstated under the condition that he does not discuss the Minuteman Project?

I support your assessment of JackelopeBreeder. I can't for the world figure out why he was banned and I've asked him about it and he doesn't know either.

JB is a good Republican. He's the Vice President of the South East Arizona Republican Club. He's just got a more intimate view of the border problem, given his geographic location, than just about anyone else on this forum. He's seen firsthand what is going on and people here would do well to listen to him. How many people here have stood yards from the border, in the brush, using night vision equipment to watch hundreds of border intruders stream by in the darkness? He's done this time and time again. He knows the problem firsthand like no other FReeper can claim to know it. We're not getting the full story from the MSM, the current Administration is outright mishandling and lying about the problem, and only a few in Congress have come down here to see it for themselves and who are working to actually do something about it.

This is not a localized problem, although the effects here in Cochise County are more obvious than other places. Wages are being depressed, jobs are being stolen, national security is being threatened, hospital emergency room sare being over run, cities are being crowded, crime rates are going up, overtaxed schools are being filled with non-citizens, and we're all footing the bill and facing the consequences of inaction.

Sure, there are some racists and whackos who gravitate to the border security cause just as there are who glom onto other causes. On a case-by-case basis, that stuff can and should be dealt with. But there are a few loudmouths who tar as racist, xenophobe, etc. everyone even the least bit concerned about illegal immigration. And they're given free reign to do it and I think we can now see some of the effects of their rancorous slander in the recent purge and website prohibitions. Meanwhile, as the DHS UAV saw when it observed 900,000 border intruders crossing in a 3-month period, we're being overrun.

416 posted on 02/11/2005 12:55:22 PM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross; Mini-14; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; endthematrix; Kackikat; ...

Ping.


417 posted on 02/11/2005 12:55:25 PM PST by William Gheen
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To: Phsstpok
Not to worry. It's Friday, the end of a long week, and cranial energy must be ebbing for all.

Worms are good. Worms are great. I eat'm by the pound,
baked or broiled, fried or fricassied.
You can often find me with my mouth upon the ground
sucking gently 'til they're up between my teeth!

418 posted on 02/11/2005 12:55:38 PM PST by theDentist (Jerry Springer: PBS for White Trash)
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To: Jim Robinson
That's right. I simply do not wish to be associated with these sites.

I'm with you Jim. I was responsible for this issue on a major campaign for high office, two years ago. I am, and my candidate was totally opposed to illegal immigration, and yes, were opposed to some of the President's policies. However, it is absolutely disgusting the level of vile racism and hysterical xenophobia that has injected itself into the immigration debate.

There is simply no place for that garbage in discussions between thinking conservatives. We already have too many good points in our favor to win the argument to rely on that intellectually shallow mental refuse..

419 posted on 02/11/2005 12:55:43 PM PST by ElkGroveDan
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To: Jim Robinson

With all due respect JimRob, and there is considerable of such, I do disagree with you on the minuteman project - the ones who are officially operating under the Minuteman project do not do this armed, and do not attempt to apprehend said aliens. They simply report their presence to the appropriate authorities. Even so, the lack of any overt effort on the part of this administration to effect a solid border control policy(i.e. fence repair, border agents) is reprehensible and one can see why the populace is driven to such measures. For truth, what are the appropriate authorities other than our citizens who have been trained by other citizens to effect a duty.


420 posted on 02/11/2005 12:56:08 PM PST by Spacetrucker (Always Faithful ... then burn 'em to the ground!!)
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