Confederacy of the determined - (Southern heritage buffs vow "Confederate History Month")

WASHINGTON TIMES.COM ^ | APRIL 24, 2005 | Christina Bellantoni

[CHARLITE]

Southern heritage buffs vow to use the Virginia gubernatorial election as a platform for designating April as Confederate History and Heritage Month.

The four candidates have differing views on the Confederacy, an issue that has been debated for years in the commonwealth.

"We're not just a few people making a lot of noise," said Brag Bowling, a spokesman for the Sons of Confederate Veterans, the oldest hereditary organization for male descendents of Confederate soldiers. "This is not a racial thing; it is good for Virginia. We're going to keep pushing this until we get it."

Each candidate recently shared his thoughts on what Mr. Bowling called a "litmus test for all politicians." Lt. Gov. Timothy M. Kaine would not support a Confederate History and Heritage Month. Former state Attorney General Jerry W. Kilgore would support something that recognizes everyone who lived during the Civil War.

Sen. H. Russell Potts Jr. and Warrenton Mayor George B. Fitch would support a Confederate History and Heritage Month. Many past Virginia governors honored the Civil War or the Confederacy.

In 1990, former Gov. L. Douglas Wilder, the nation's first black governor, a Democrat and a grandson of slaves, issued a proclamation praising both sides of the war and remembering "those who sacrificed in this great struggle."

Former Govs. George Allen and James S. Gilmore III, both Republicans, issued Confederate History Month proclamations. In 2000, Mr. Gilmore replaced that proclamation with one commemorating both sides of the Civil War -- a move that enraged the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

Gov. Mark Warner, a Democrat, has refused to issue a gubernatorial decree on either side of the Civil War.

Mr. Kaine, another Democrat, would decline to issue a Confederate History and Heritage Month proclamation if he is elected governor, said his campaign spokeswoman, Delacey Skinner.

[M. Espinola]

- F A C T S -

"I say now, however, as I have all the while said, that on the territorial question---that is, the question of extending slavery under the national auspices,---I am inflexible. I am for no compromise which assists or permits the extension of the institution on soil owned by the nation. And any trick by which the nation is to acquire territory, and then allow some local authority to spread slavery over it, is as obnoxious as any other.

"I take it that to effect some such result as this, and to put us again on the high-road to a slave empire is the object of all these proposed compromises. I am against it." Yours very truly A. LINCOLN

Large Farms: Cotton and Slavery

The bottom line is A. Lincoln was opposed to the expansion of the 'slave empire' regardless of some of his personal opinions regarding race, yet the politician's representing the interests of some 25% directly profiting off the 'slave empire' were willing to rip this country in two in order to continue and expand their lucrative enterprise made possible through human bondage.

Follow the money: The big plantation power brokers, the rats with the cash had the most to lose if their Cotton 'slavery' Empire was threatened.

Which segment of Southern society had the most to gain from continuing & expanding of slavery? The little yeoman farmers schnooks with one mule on the edge of a mosquito invested swamp, or the upper crust Southern planter with a horsewhip in one hand and a well healed bank book in the other?

Ride for Liberty: The Fugitive Slaves by Eastman Johnson (Brooklyn Museum of Art)

FACT: Plantation slaves produced 75% of the South’s export crops.

FACT: 1860: 4 million, one third of South’s population were slaves.

Now, was somebody saying the primary reason the Southern plantation elite instigated rebellious mobs to dissolve the Union was not over preservation of slavery?

Yo, yo, yo, Joe, some of us were born not that long ago in relation to others here, but not last night! :)

- NO SPIN ZONE -

[M. Espinola]

"Yes, and it was all because of the slave owners attempts to expand slavery. Hence, Lincoln's House divided speech."

Exactly!

[fortheDeclaration]

The love of money is the root of all evil (1Tim.6:10)

[M. Espinola]

The love of money is the root of all evil (1Tim.6:10)"

True. So much money some were willing to provoke civil war thinking the European powers would rush in support & arms, hoping to come out on top, no matter how many died on either side.

That demonic evil overtook pitiful creatures like the pro-slaver Griffin who convinced himself he could no longer live in a slave free South/America. (He didn't know Jim Crow was around the next few cotton crops and he could play slave master again, what a miserable rat.)

[fortheDeclaration]

Amen!

[MacDorcha]

You are yet to argue a difference in indetured servitude and slavery.

[stand watie]

yet another SILLY, brainwave-free response from FR's laughingstock.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

what a DUMB post. you're on a roll. rant on.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

"do you know that a half-truth is really a lie?"

well, i must say, then, that YOU are an EXPERT at LYING.

very little of your bilge posted on these threads are anything more than nonsense,personal opinions ( backed up by NO facts), evasions,self-righteous blather,foolishness & SPIN.

free dixie,sw

[Non-Sequitur]

You are yet to argue a difference in indetured servitude and slavery.

I'm surprised that you can't figure out the difference on your own. Indentured servitude was a contract with a fixed length. That contract spelled out the obligations on both sides. In exchange for transportation, food and shelter, and often training in a trade of some kind the indentured party agreed to work without wages for the life of the contract. Most importantly the indentured person was not considered property and within the restrictions of the indenture enjoyed the same rights and privileges as any other person. Slavery, on the other hand, had no contract. It had no fixed length. It imposed no obligations on the slave holder. The slave was property, not a person. The slave enjoyed no rights that a free person was obligated to respect. The slave could be sold at will. Now do you see the difference?

[stand watie]

well, i certainly have NO qualms about posting the TRUTH about the LYING,arrogant, vengeful,self-righteous, bigoted damnyankee, elitists, that were the creators of those policies.

aren't YOU ashamed of the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of atrocities,WAR CRIMES & CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY that they DID in the name of the USA?

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

posting a FALSE statement, multiple times, does NOT make the LIE become magically true.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

as i've said before, when you post UNFOUNDED personal opinion as IF those opinions were factual, PLEASE preface such statements with,

"in my PERSONAL OPINION,-----"

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

sadly, for you & the other members of the lincoln cult of worshipers, ORIGIONAL documents (signed by members of the damnyankee high command) still exist that promised slaveowners that their "freedom to trade in human flesh" would be made PERMANENT, if those slaveowners would COLLOBORATE with the damnyankee forces.

the DISHONESTY of the damnyankee elitists doesn't get any clearer than that!

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

stop with the LIES, EVASIONS & SPIN, already.

do you hold the damnyankees responsible for the 50,000+ CSA POWs that were intentionally MURDERED in cold-blood in their CONCENTRATION CAMPS?

at least 15,000 helpless CSA POWs were MURDERED at just ONE of them, Point Lookout POW Camp.

were those COLDBLOODED MURDERS A-OK with YOU??

a simple YES or NO will suffice.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

nope, not all of you are DAMNyankees.

only the REVISIONIST, ignorant, self-righteous, HATEFILLED ones are DAMNyankees.

the rest of northerners are called northernborns.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

this BILGE from m.eSPINola, poster of RACIST comment #645????

rotflmRao!

say, Mr SPIN, why don't you re-post # 645 for everyone TO SEE for themselves & JUDGE whether you are a RACIST or not???

you don't have the guts to do that, do you?

free dixie,sw

[Heyworth]

posting a FALSE statement, multiple times, does NOT make the LIE become magically true.

We know this to be the case because no U-boat has yet materialized in a Galveston park

[TexConfederate1861]

Expanding where? The new territory would all be US property.

[TexConfederate1861]

Not exactly. They were murdered for attempting to leave Texas and join the traitorous Texans in Baghdad, Mexico.

You will note that I do agree in this case it was murder.
The sorry individual who ordered the massacre was no gentleman, nor did he have the support of his government, etc. for his actions.