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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 17

Posted on 11/05/2005 1:26:38 PM PST by Slings and Arrows

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: boycottaruba; corruptlittleisland; deepakisarapist; jorandidit; natalee; nataleeholloway
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To: presently no screen name
No party for him for new years in Aruba (no friends/no place to go), his temper around the household was too much to bear and he was shipped off early.

I think you nailed it. His parents may actually be afraid of him.

2,381 posted on 01/03/2006 8:47:57 PM PST by shebacal
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To: All

On TV now. 12 miners found ALIVE!!! Prayers are answered.


2,382 posted on 01/03/2006 8:58:37 PM PST by shebacal
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To: imaketypos
While Minister of Tourism continues to hide

That must be why my e-mails to him came back as "not delivered". Minister Briesen must be down in his spider hole, afraid to raise his head. I'm US mailing a hard copy to Minister Briesen tomorrow, and copies to Prime Minister Nelson Oduber and the Aruba Tourism Authority.

2,383 posted on 01/03/2006 9:21:21 PM PST by shebacal
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To: shebacal

Amen! Feels good to hear some good news!
Even my local paper sent a breaking news email alert on the miners found alive. I was surprised since that is a very rare thing for our local paper.

News conference coming soon.


2,384 posted on 01/03/2006 9:24:25 PM PST by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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To: Canadian Outrage

Re: the letter.

Thanks for the kind words, and thanks also to RGVTx. However, credit goes to nuntukamen for launching the idea and to Vn_survivor_67-68 for amplifying on it, and some of the phrases came from nuntukamen and yourself.

No one can write with such punch as you, CO, you are an inspiration for expressive writing.


2,385 posted on 01/03/2006 9:38:20 PM PST by shebacal
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To: justche

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2,386 posted on 01/03/2006 9:45:25 PM PST by justche (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Damn straight, I'll cast the first stone!" - MeanWestTexan)
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To: MAWG

Happy New Year to you, too, MAWG. I'm glad to know you are out there keeping an eye on us here.


2,387 posted on 01/03/2006 9:47:31 PM PST by shebacal
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To: shebacal

! Prayers are answered.
_______________________

You know, I have a feeling that's why a lot of us, still hold out hope for a miracle or justice for Natalee. We do pray about....


2,388 posted on 01/03/2006 9:48:35 PM PST by justche (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Damn straight, I'll cast the first stone!" - MeanWestTexan)
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To: justche
You've got that right, Justche!
Prayers do get answered.
Sometimes in ways we can't foresee.
2,389 posted on 01/03/2006 9:54:22 PM PST by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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To: shebacal
I love it when a plan comes together. A-Team, for sure!

There are some great personalities on this thread. Everyone contributes in their unique ways.
I feel honored to share space with ya'll.
2,390 posted on 01/03/2006 10:08:46 PM PST by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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To: RGVTx; justche

Prayers answered for the miners and their families, except for the one unfortunate fellow. This is an excellent start for 2006 for West Virginia and the entire country.

If Aruba thinks they can discard Natalee, and just ditz around until the USA forgets about her, they have another think coming.


2,391 posted on 01/03/2006 10:27:38 PM PST by shebacal
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To: Canadian Outrage

It was good but no, my local church. YOU know I'd tell you if I went to David's! ;)


2,392 posted on 01/03/2006 10:32:32 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: shebacal

If Aruba thinks they can discard Natalee, and just ditz around until the USA forgets about her, they have another think coming.



So true,shebacal. Needs to be said one more time.


2,393 posted on 01/03/2006 10:44:44 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I believe she's alive. Pray that she's released soon after her baby is born.


2,394 posted on 01/03/2006 11:08:31 PM PST by leaf errickson
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www.meridianstar.com

Snowden looks ahead to legislative session
By Georgia E. Frye / staff writer
Sunday, January 1, 2006 10:53 PM CST

State Rep. Greg Snowden, R-Meridian, was the guest of The Meridian Star's Editorial Board last week. He discussed several topics that will come to the forefront in the upcoming general legislative session.

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The Star: State Sen. Videt Carmichael has pre-filed a bill calling for a tourist boycott of Aruba. Would you support that if it gets to the House?

Snowden: I would support it. I have been as frustrated as anyone. It is mindboggling to see how this investigation has been handled. We are accustomed, as American citizens, to having certain rights. It has been shocking to find out about, and to see.

A boycott is symbolic, but I think it would be a strong signal to express, if nothing else, our solidarity with the Holloway family and our disgust over what looks to be a botched investigation and maybe a cover-up.
2,395 posted on 01/03/2006 11:16:59 PM PST by shebacal
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To: leaf errickson

Baby?


2,396 posted on 01/03/2006 11:18:58 PM PST by Jrabbit (Kaufman County, Texas)
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To: leaf errickson
Not again with you. I thought the leaf was incinerated with the trash.
2,397 posted on 01/03/2006 11:19:07 PM PST by shebacal
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www.scaredmonkeys.com/.

Steve Cohen: “I’d have to say that our confidence level is not at the highest level” (Natalee Holloway Investigation)
January 3rd, 2006
‘Rita Cosby Live & Direct’ for January 2, 2006

SM: Only a very short time ago Steve Cohen was heard to be saying the following to Rita Cosby:

"It is expected that he will be re-questioned somewhere in the next 10-day period. I doubt that they will bring him back for questioning immediately, but it will be in that period. And also, it is expected the Kalpoes will also be brought in for questioning."

SM: Twelve days later looks like Steve Cohen has another story to tell. This time not so optimistic and much different.

"Well, I have to say, I really think, you know, we all misjudged the process, that we were very enthusiastic at that stage in the investigation we’d be able to get this piece done and moved forward."

"No. I’d have to say that our confidence level is not at the highest level.""

SM: One of the most amazing comments to come out of this case after seven months, “we all misjudged the process”. This coming from the Special Consultant to the Aruban Government who has access to the ALE and Prosecutors Office. All these connections and they “all misjudged the process”.

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STEVE COHEN, SPECIAL ADVISER TO ARUBAN GOVERNMENT: It is expected that he will be re-questioned somewhere in the next 10-day period. I doubt that they will bring him back for questioning immediately. But it will be in that period. And also, it is expected that the Kalpoes will also be brought in for questioning.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSBY: Well, you just heard it. Almost two weeks ago, LIVE & DIRECT broke the news that the three key suspects in the Natalee Holloway case would be brought back in for questioning.

Well, here it is, 13 days later. Joran Van Der Sloot and Deepak and Satish Kalpoe still have not answered to Aruban police and prosecutors again. So what’s the hold up?

LIVE & DIRECT tonight is Steve Cohen. He’s a special adviser to the Aruban government. He’s the man who told us that the three suspects would be re-questioned by December 31st.

Steve, before we get to you, I want to show what Natalee Holloway’s stepmother, Robin Holloway, told us about her conversation that she had with the Aruban prosecutors.

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ROBIN HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY’S STEPMOTHER: She said that that was misinformation, that the judge, when he released them, it was unconditional that they were unable to re-question them without them being brought in voluntarily, because they were released by the judge and they were unable to interrogate them again.

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COSBY: So, Steve, what’s the hold up? What’s the discrepancy?

COHEN: Well, Ms. Holloway’s right. The voluntary nature of the Dutch law exists because, if there’s no new evidence that’s presented or no new re-arrests, the attorneys have the opportunity to voluntary decide to come in or not.

The truth is, at the end of the year, we were very enthusiastic that this process would not take a long time. So what’s transpired is that the prosecutors have sent letters to each of the attorneys requesting that their clients, Joran and the Kalpoes, come forward for re-questioning.

I do want to add though, Rita, that no one really thought the re-questioning itself was going to be a break in the case. It’s only, you know, one piece of the case that the prosecutor’s trying to put together. And, of course, she’s not going to reveal new evidence at this stage either. She wants to withhold that until she gets closer.

COSBY: But how long could this take now? I mean, what are we talking about time-wise? Because as you pointed out, you know, you seemed pretty confident it was going to happen. Are we talking months? Are we talking weeks?

COHEN: Well, I have to say, I really think, you know, we all misjudged the process, that we were very enthusiastic at that stage in the investigation we’d be able to get this piece done and moved forward.

Rita, I don’t want to put a time line on it. I don’t think we want to get caught saying that it’s 10 days or 13 days.

COSBY: Is there a possibly, Steve, that they could say, “Look, it’s voluntary.” Heck, why would they go in? You know, I mean, are you confident that they will go in at all?

COHEN: No. I’d have to say that our confidence level is not at the highest level.

COSBY: So what changed it? Because there certainly seemed to be a level of confidence. Did all of a sudden the attorneys say, “You know what? We thought about it. Forget it. Why would we put our clients in that kind of jeopardy?”

COHEN: Yes, I think what’s happened here is what you would expect in any system, Dutch or U.S., which is that the attorneys have said, “Let’s give this thoughtful consideration. What do they have that we don’t know about?” We go in there thinking we’re going to talk about the general scope of the case, and they’re going to ask us questions that we just can’t answer.

COSBY: But didn’t they know that going in?

COHEN: Of course, that’s what we hope will happen.

COSBY: But didn’t they know that going in, Steve? I mean, come on.

COHEN: Well, I think they—it’s plausible that they knew that going in. But, I mean, you know, this is a cat-and-mouse game between the suspects, between their attorneys and the prosecutor’s office. This is not something that’s uncommon. The prosecutor is very skilled in this area, though, I must add, and I think that she will prevail.

COSBY: Let’s hope so. Steve Cohen, thank you very much. Always good to have you on. We appreciate it.

COHEN: Thank you.
2,398 posted on 01/03/2006 11:32:38 PM PST by shebacal
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To: leaf errickson

Yep, and you believe ALE cleared the suspects long ago.
Yes, I remember your ignorant post on that other thread.
Must have tweaked you deeply when I exposed your ignorance with this qoute... Dompig: "I believe they are guilty as hell." Tweaked you enough to bring you to this thread for continued exposure of your ignorance.

Keep on blowin' in the wind, leaf.
No one here believes a word you say.


2,399 posted on 01/03/2006 11:44:21 PM PST by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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To: shebacal

Do you think Cohen might be rethinking this job?
Seems Cohen has sold his soul to the devil and is now being played for a fool.

Yes, Cohen, you look foolish and your creds are falling fast. Can't be good for someone in the PR business. Will you go down with the Aruba Titanic?


2,400 posted on 01/03/2006 11:55:52 PM PST by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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