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Teen dad profiled in People mag is killed
UPI ^ | 11/21/2005

Posted on 11/22/2005 7:20:33 AM PST by ncountylee

PHILADELPHIA, Nov. 21 (UPI) -- An 18-year-old single father whose struggle raising his toddler daughter was featured in People magazine has been killed in Philadelphia.

Terrell Pough was shot in the head on his way home from work Thursday night and later died at Temple University Hospital, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported.

Police said they have no suspects but do have a possible lead. No further details of the slaying were released.

The August issue of People profiled Pough, who worked as the night manger at a local restaurant while attending school full-time and raising his daughter, Diamond, who will be 2 on Nov. 27.

"She's what I work for, what I live for, why I wake up," he told People. "She's everything."

Diamond, who had full-custody of his daughter, had planned to work in construction after graduating next June.

"If something ever happens to me, no one can ever tell her that her dad didn't take care of her," he told People.


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To: ohioWfan
May God be with this little girl. Amen. And now I'm going to back up and see what I have been missing.
401 posted on 11/22/2005 2:24:05 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: ohioWfan
Post the post that Howlin claims I made about Harriett Miers. What is so hard about that? That post to sinkspur was AFTER Harriet had been pulled and was just a dig to sinkspur, it had nothing to do with Harriett personally.

Post the post Howlin is talking about. Having trouble finding it?

Howlin is a liar, I never said anything about Harriett Miers.

Howlin is lying. You don't support lying do you, or maybe you do.

402 posted on 11/22/2005 2:24:51 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: mlc9852

No I am saying you don't know the circumstances of this young man's life that you should be attacking him. He did NOT act like the vast majority of the fathers of these children but rather like a responsible person. Why? Why was he different? How did he wind up different from the less responsible? Why didn't he feel justified in letting the taxpayer pick up the tab for his mistake? These are the really interesting questions completely ignored by the self righteous.

I don't care what you know or don't know about OOW births but was speaking of this young man's story.


403 posted on 11/22/2005 2:25:03 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: mlc9852

The article in "People" went to great lengths to demonstrate just how difficult it was for this young man and his little daughter. How hard he had to work, how early he had to get up, how little free time he had, etc., so I don't think most teens would, necessarily, be encouraged to have children based on his example.

By all accounts he seemed an exemplary young man. I am so sorry some criminal took his life.


406 posted on 11/22/2005 2:30:30 PM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: yellowdoghunter

Actually, that was sent to me in Freepmail.

See, I get them, too!


407 posted on 11/22/2005 2:30:50 PM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not a strategy. " ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: Howlin
Post the comment you accuse me of making. What is so hard about that? Have one of your little buddies find it. I will be waiting....

Admit you made a mistake or quit lying about what I said about Harriett Miers. I never said anything about her.

Stop lying.

408 posted on 11/22/2005 2:32:01 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Post the comment you accuse me of making.

FOR THE READING IMPAIRED: I'm not going back through your posts; I said you said it and I stand by it.

Being called a liar by you is kind of like being called honest by Bill Clinton.

409 posted on 11/22/2005 2:34:53 PM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not a strategy. " ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: mlc9852

I'm not arguing about anything. I want to know how you came to the conclusion that through the People article the slain father 'bragged' about his sins (post #266)...particularly since you have repeatedly stressed the fact that YOU have NOT READ the People article.


410 posted on 11/22/2005 2:36:12 PM PST by conservativemama
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To: Howlin
You are a liar, Howlin. If I said it and you could prove it, you would in a minute, everyone here knows that. Anyone that cannot see that you are lying must still be voting Democrat.

Get over losing the Harriett Miers debate...I cannot even belive you came on this thread and spewed that garbage...it speaks volumes about how you are. Some people cower to you but you do not intimidate me.

Once again, post the comment or stop lying.

411 posted on 11/22/2005 2:37:49 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

No, I don't. So stop making the accusation, OK?


412 posted on 11/22/2005 2:38:46 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: singfreedom

Thanks for summarizing what the article was about. From it, I didn't get the impression that the father was 'bragging' about his sins.


413 posted on 11/22/2005 2:40:23 PM PST by conservativemama
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To: conservativemama; mlc9852
I'm still waiting for the answer to that, mama.

He freely spews out the accusation, while at the same time admitting that he doesn't have a clue as to whether or not it's true.

All in the name of morality, too.......

414 posted on 11/22/2005 2:40:30 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: yellowdoghunter

I didn't lose any Harriet Miers debate.

In fact, I was right; you all showed your true colors and now there's a backlash against you and your ilk in the Republican Party.

You are so high school U.S.A.


415 posted on 11/22/2005 2:40:50 PM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not a strategy. " ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: Howlin
I didn't lose any Harriet Miers debate.

Ya, right...but know this, I did not even participate in any of the debates, so quit saying I did. You are lying when you attribute that comment to me. I never said it.

Stop lying.

416 posted on 11/22/2005 2:42:59 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Come on all you bleeding heart conservatives, jump on the Free Tookie Bandwagon!

This young man did not commit murder for which he will have to take the consequences. Tookie may have turned his life around (although perhaps not) and if he did, good for him. That does not let him out of the consequences of his sin.

This young man had a child out of wedlock. He was dealing with the consequences in a way that he hoped would break the cycle. He did not ask to be let off of the consequences of his mistake like many many others who abandon their children to their girlfriends or worse, the state. He was, apparently, killed in that process. If more information comes out that he was not what he appeared to be, then fine. Until then, I refuse to condemn this man.

To say appreciation for what this young man was trying to accomplish is the same as jumping on the Tookie Bandwagon is disingenuous at best. I do not want to back you into a corner on this because I know it is hard to back down. But I can not in good conscience let that comparison stand.

One more thing: To do what this man was trying to do, is quintessentially American. To rise above one's circumstances, to do the best with what you have, to take the second chances that life offers you. That, in my mind, is part of what it means to be conservative. If you believe conservative is never making a mistake, never appreciating those who have less and what they must overcome, never accepting anything but perfection, well...then quite honestly I don't qualify.

417 posted on 11/22/2005 2:43:02 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: yellowdoghunter
Also, it was just pointed out to me that you love to tell people that they "had their head handed to them" on a certain thread.

Getting that "secret" Freepmail again, I see.

One only needs to read THIS thread to see the beating you've taken; nobody is calling me deranged.

but this person pointed out that you had your head handed to you on the Harriett threads...

Actually, I did not; after it became apparent that you all intended to smear that good woman, I just ignored you all, as did most of FR.

418 posted on 11/22/2005 2:43:42 PM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not a strategy. " ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: pollyannaish

Please know my comparison to Tookie was in jest. I agree with most of what you said.


419 posted on 11/22/2005 2:44:48 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Howlin
Quit lying about what I said about Harriett Miers. You are lying when you say I commented on the Harriett threads and that we had a "discussion" and that I called her a lesbian. That is lie. I NEVER said those things.

One only needs to read the Harriett threads to see what a beaten you took and in the end lost with another nominee being names. Gosh, you are still not over it...that is fine, that is your problem, but STOP trying to drag me into it.

I never said anything about Harriett, you are a liar.

420 posted on 11/22/2005 2:46:45 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: All
I apologize for what this turned into. It was never my intention. I try to avoid Howlin and usually do a pretty good job but every now and then she is bored and seeks me out. For some reason, I really bother her.

Anyway, it was never my intent.

Please know that I never said anything about Harriett Miers at any time. Howlin is lying. And if you stick around FR long enough, you will find out on your own how she is. You may think you are her friend now....but time has a way of correcting that. Just ask some of those who did participate in the Harriett threads......

Good Day and Happy Thanksgiving.

421 posted on 11/22/2005 2:51:16 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

422 posted on 11/22/2005 2:53:27 PM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not a strategy. " ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: Howlin

We were waiting on those...I am supposed to tell you to get your own original ideas....that was used by someone who used to post here in the past...quit stealing her ideas...


423 posted on 11/22/2005 2:54:35 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
"We?"

I don't see anybody here sticking up for you. I guess your friends don't bother with that, huh?

I am supposed to tell you to get your own original ideas....

Are you channeling? Why don't your "friends" have the balls to speak up?

that was used by someone who used to post here in the past...quit stealing her ideas...

I've been using that since 1998 for people like you. Get over it.

424 posted on 11/22/2005 2:56:36 PM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not a strategy. " ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: Howlin; yellowdoghunter

Not only does YDH look bad, she gives others yet another excuse to paint the entire board as a pack of loons.


425 posted on 11/22/2005 3:00:52 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Well, she was the most vocal of the trashers of this boy (but she always is, but there were a couple of others who joined in the fray.

Tasteless and very unChristian like.

The very ones people point to to "prove" how nasty conservatives are.


426 posted on 11/22/2005 3:03:34 PM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not a strategy. " ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: Howlin
Still waiting on the you to post the comment you claim I made. Still waiting...

You constantly tell people to back up what they have said when they say you said something...remember this thread the next time you tell someone that. Everyone else will remember.

You are a liar, Howlin...plain and simple.

427 posted on 11/22/2005 3:25:26 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Howlin
I've been using that since 1998 for people like you. Get over it.

Another lie.....I think someone else was using it before you.

428 posted on 11/22/2005 3:26:12 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Another lie.....I think someone else was using it before you.

Gawd, you are petty, aren't you?

I've been using that since I got here in 1998; get OVER it.

429 posted on 11/22/2005 3:28:02 PM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not a strategy. " ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: Howlin
Just admit you made a mistake about what I said on any Harriett Miers threads...or post the comment.

Still waiting.....

430 posted on 11/22/2005 3:37:55 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Come on all you bleeding heart conservatives, jump on the Free Tookie Bandwagon!

Are you truly an idiot or do you just play one on Free Republic? Tookie is a cold blooded murderer and founder of a criminal enterprise that plagues the United States to this very day. The victim in this story, had premarital sex. How dare you even compare the two?

431 posted on 11/22/2005 3:38:02 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Melas

Read the post in context, who it was posted to, and then know it was in jest....


432 posted on 11/22/2005 3:39:32 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

grow up.

This neener neener nanner crap you have put on this thread is absolutely inane.


433 posted on 11/22/2005 3:40:17 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: MikeinIraq
Just still waiting on that post.....I guess she can't seem to find it.

Anyway, though, it is a Holiday week and I feel guilty for being on the computer all day and getting nothing done really. I never do that!!!! But I will cut my self some slack since I am on school break.

I am sure someone will email me if she ever does posts the comment she swears I made. If not, I am sure I will also hear about that.

Happy Thanksgiving

434 posted on 11/22/2005 3:46:02 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: ohioWfan

This isn't about my morality. I was not featured in a national magazine. It's about backhandedly promoting immorality while making it appear moral. What this young guy did AFTER his mistake was a good thing - no one is arguing that. What do you tell your children? That it's okay to have sex at 15? That it's fine if a child is raised in a single family home? That there are no detrimental effects on children raised in single family homes with the other parent totally absent from their life? That's not what I want my kids taught.


435 posted on 11/22/2005 4:07:26 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Ok. I'm tired and I cannot believe this thread has gone on this long. It really surprises me. It's almost as bad as the breastfeeding threads! LOL I understand what you and others are saying and believe me, I wouldn't want to take anything away from this guy for what he did after the fact. And if it gets other young men thinking, then his life would have had a wonderful impact. However, why can't we celebrate so many teens who have done and continue to do the right thing and NOT END UP IN THIS SITUATION! That is all I am saying. If our kids had more positive role models, this cases might be reduced.

I think I am done with this thread - at least for now - LOL.

Have a wonderful evening everyone and a Happy Thanksgiving!
436 posted on 11/22/2005 4:16:48 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
I don't even know how to respond to that twisted logic, and those ludicrous questions.

You clearly feel that you can make any false accusation you want to defend your position, and I don't call that moral.

The absurdity of your 'backhanded' accusations of me, are beyond the pale.

From what I've seen of you on this thread, I really think you need to reevaluate your relationship with the Lord. You're inside out here.

"For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted." Matthew 23: 12

The words of Jesus, given to you by a sister in Christ. You are WAY out of line, and I recommend you spend some time in prayer about the things you have said here.

437 posted on 11/22/2005 4:31:01 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: ohioWfan

Thank you for your advice.


438 posted on 11/22/2005 4:49:38 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
You're welcome.

btw, I already made it perfectly clear that I am as much a purist when it comes to extramarital sex as anyone alive. My husband and I married in our late twenties and had 'saved ourselves' for each other (not all that easy in the '60's and '70's). We have raised four children to adulthood in purity and morality. It is a high priority for us all.

They even made the choice not to date, to make sure that they weren't tempted in this foul, putrid world, to do something they would later regret.

But that has NOTHING to do with my admiration for this young man who corrected his behavior and straightened up. The two things have nothing to do with each other, and your twisting them to make some sordid connection just stinks.

I hate it when people who call themselves Christians deliberately offend as you just did. And I wonder why anyone who names the Name of Jesus Christ would do so.

439 posted on 11/22/2005 5:00:31 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: ncountylee; 4woodenboats; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; abletruth; Accountable One; Aeronaut; ...
Prayer ping.


Rest in Peace
 Terrell Pough

My prayers go up for all who now mourn Terrell's passing.  

Blessings,
trussell


If you want on/off my prayer ping list, please let me know. All requests happily honored.

440 posted on 11/22/2005 5:19:17 PM PST by trussell (Miss you TC)
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To: ncountylee

My prayers are offered for this young man who was so tragically killed. May the Lord bring comfort and strength to his family, and watch over and protect his young daughter.


441 posted on 11/22/2005 5:28:16 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: ohioWfan

I'm sorry we see things differently but I'm not sorry for my opinion. It's just that - my opinion and I'm sorry you got so upset about it.


442 posted on 11/22/2005 5:57:02 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: yellowdoghunter
BTW...I am a lady.... - yellowdoghunter

No.. you're a broken record.. over and over and over...

443 posted on 11/22/2005 6:22:10 PM PST by buckleyfan (WFB, save us!)
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To: yellowdoghunter

Your grandmother may have been involved in some nefarious activities that led to her death. But we'll withhold judgement - for now.


444 posted on 11/22/2005 6:25:19 PM PST by buckleyfan (WFB, save us!)
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To: mlc9852
It's not just 'your opinion' when you accuse others by giving it.

As Christians we are to be encouragers.....uplifters........a sweet fragrance. We are NOT to lord our superior morality over others under the guise of stating our 'opinion.'

I will always get upset when the name of Christ is besmirched by those who claim it.

445 posted on 11/22/2005 6:27:40 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: ohioWfan

Do you think I think I am superiorly moral? Then you've missed my point completely. But it really isn't worth getting upset over.


446 posted on 11/22/2005 6:29:36 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
Do you think I think I am superiorly moral?

Yes. I do. You've made that VERY clear.........repeatedly.

And I think you're unforgiving and arrogant too.

Happy Thanksgiving, mlc. You can be thankful that you're not a sinner like the rest of us folks....

(Read Luke 18: 9-14 if you don't know what I'm referring to).

Conversation over.......I'm going out of town. Think about the way you come across. It may not be what you intend it to be.

447 posted on 11/22/2005 6:49:03 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: ncountylee

I join in prayer for his daughter and all who are suffering from his homegoing!


448 posted on 11/22/2005 7:21:56 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: trussell
OMG!

"If something ever happens to me, no one can ever tell her that her dad didn't take care of her," he told People.

Tragic news... it brought tears to my eyes. May he rest in peace, and may God guide and protect his little girl.

449 posted on 11/22/2005 7:26:18 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Howlin

She sure as heck DID comment on the Harriet threads. So who's the liar?


450 posted on 11/22/2005 11:32:29 PM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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