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Kansas Prof. Apologizes for E-Mail [referred to religious conservatives as "fundies" ....]
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Posted on 11/29/2005 9:31:13 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Kansas Prof. Apologizes for E-Mail

11 minutes ago

A University of Kansas religion professor apologized for an e-mail that referred to religious conservatives as "fundies" and said a course describing intelligent design as mythology would be a "nice slap in their big fat face."

In a written apology Monday, Paul Mirecki, chairman of the university's Religious Studies Department, said he would teach the planned class "as a serious academic subject and in an manner that respects all points of view."

The department faculty approved the course Monday but changed its title. The course, originally called "Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationisms and other Religious Mythologies," will instead be called "Intelligent Design and Creationism."

The class was added to next spring's curriculum after the Kansas State Board of Education decided to include more criticism of evolution in its standards for science teaching. The vote was seen as a big win for proponents of intelligent design, who argue that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by a higher power.

Critics say intelligent design is merely creationism — a literal reading of the Bible's story of creation — camouflaged in scientific language.

Mirecki's e-mail was sent Nov. 19 to members of the Society of Open-Minded Atheists and Agnostics, a student organization for which he serves as faculty adviser.

"The fundies (fundamentalists) want it all taught in a science class, but this will be a nice slap in their big fat face by teaching it as a religious studies class under the category mythology."

Mirecki addressed the message to "my fellow damned" and signed off with: "Doing my part to (tick) off the religious right, Evil Dr. P."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: academia; apology; crevolist; dems; evocreeps; fundies; highereducation; ku; libs; mirecki; pubs; scienceeducation
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To: Morris_Hattrick

Welcome to FR.


101 posted on 11/29/2005 4:04:30 PM PST by Mamzelle (evosnide#1--"You need to get back to biology class")
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To: eleni121
Given the frightening calibre of discussion here on the part of evos/darbinists my characterization of them as fascists stands...

People will say things on the internet that they would never dare to say in person. Double-blind anonymity is liberating, and for some reason this tends to bring out the best, or conversely the worst, in people. Thank you for showing your worst side.

102 posted on 11/29/2005 4:04:41 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Posted on his personal web site. Why am I not surprised?

He also has a link to American's United for the Separation of Church and State on his link pages.

Finally a Picture of the perp at a seminar focusing on the GNOSTIC GOSPELS:


103 posted on 11/29/2005 4:06:42 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: Liberal Classic

If you think so. I am just posting the facts. Apparently some archaically inclined evo cretins have a hard time dealing with them.


104 posted on 11/29/2005 4:07:15 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121

I'm under your bed typing this. Boo.


105 posted on 11/29/2005 4:07:24 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Senator Bedfellow

Oh I forgot to vacuum last weekend.


106 posted on 11/29/2005 4:08:25 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121

Well, I know that wasn't because you were somewhere else - given your characterization of the "frightening caliber" of the "fascists" here, you surely don't get out very much.


107 posted on 11/29/2005 4:11:59 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Mamzelle

here's another from the evos:

"you have a thought disorder."

Amazing how easy for them to classify people with whom they disagree. And yet they holler aobut being called fascists...


108 posted on 11/29/2005 4:16:06 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: aNYCguy; eleni121; Senator Bedfellow
...you have a thought disorder.

...You guys just make it up as you go along, don't you?

...That you think otherwise shows your ignorance of the scientific process.

...You need to get better sources.

...Quite the hothouse flower, aren't we?

More for the archives. Now I'm starting to notice the timing of these little snide gangups. Did you know these guys have similar posting times as well as histories and numblingly similar comments? You'd think they all lived in the same place, had the same bedtimes. I wonder if they're all teachers at the same all-boy's military school...

You've inspired an IM "distress signal"--methinks. Unless they don't need IM.

109 posted on 11/29/2005 4:21:15 PM PST by Mamzelle (evosnide#1--"You need to get back to biology class")
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To: Mamzelle

Yawn.


110 posted on 11/29/2005 4:23:59 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: eleni121
You beat me to that one, little flower. I was compiling and starting to cross reference posting times of evofreaks as you wrote. When I had a brief sojurn doing some legal editing--time--always note the date and the time.
111 posted on 11/29/2005 4:25:59 PM PST by Mamzelle (evosnide#1--"You need to get back to biology class")
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To: Senator Bedfellow

I don't think it's your bedtime yet, bedfellow. Can you all stay awake at once?


112 posted on 11/29/2005 4:30:23 PM PST by Mamzelle (evosnide#1--"You need to get back to biology class")
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To: Mamzelle
LOL. I admit, there's a certain amusement in imagining you surrounded by reams of paper, ink-stained fingers madly scribbling down screen names and post times, all in pursuit of some oddball conspiracy that only exists in your daft mind. Rather like LaBelleDameSansMerci, only without the charm or wit.

Well, well, mes petit poisson, if it makes you happy to occupy your time in such a manner, who am I to object? Carry on, m'dear, carry on....

113 posted on 11/29/2005 4:35:09 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Senator Bedfellow
You've got me there. We do have our guilty pleasures, eh, Counselor Bedfellows?

About once a year I get the yen for a jigsaw puzzle and sit and chuckle at what a ridiculous pastime it is, as I turn over the pieces (I get the 1500-piece kind) and rearrange them until they make sense. And it's all about trying to make sense of a jumble of chaotic clues. Absurd, isn't it? But I just can't stop until the picture is complete.

114 posted on 11/29/2005 4:39:41 PM PST by Mamzelle (evosnide#1--"You need to get back to biology class")
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To: Senator Bedfellow

all in pursuit of some oddball conspiracy that only exists in your daft mind..

...the mind of a schoolmarm who thinks the boys must always be supervised and disciplined.

115 posted on 11/29/2005 4:40:50 PM PST by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
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To: Sub-Driver

Wonder what handle he uses on FR?


116 posted on 11/29/2005 4:43:59 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Sub-Driver

Regardless of where one comes down on the topic of evolution/intelligent design. It is very obvious that this professor has an agenda. This is not a very auspicious beginning.

Instead of retitled the course, it should be removed from the curriculum. Or, it should be taught under history of science and with a less polarized teacher.


117 posted on 11/29/2005 4:44:00 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: ml1954
Are you ignoring me? Am I allowed to reply, or are you going to "warn" me ? Second Warning!! It's so hard to remember which of you Sybils I'm talking to. Is this the one that Must Not Be Replied To?

I think the supervision and discipline is supplied by the Grand Master.

118 posted on 11/29/2005 4:45:47 PM PST by Mamzelle (evosnide#1--"You need to get back to biology class")
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To: Tench_Coxe

He probably has more than one.


119 posted on 11/29/2005 4:46:28 PM PST by Mamzelle (evosnide#1--"You need to get back to biology class")
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To: Mamzelle

You do seem to want to be convinced that there are only a few posters on the evo threads, who believe in evolution, like about 3 of them, and that they post under numerous screennames, in an attempt to beef up their numbers...I do have to wonder why you would go to such wild and so far, unproven accusations, except to somehow reassure yourself, that somehow, its impossible that a number of people who post on a site, calling its conservative, could actually believe in evolution...

I would suggest that is merely wishful thinking on your part, something that exists purely in your own mind, something you cannot prove, and something that somehow is reassuring to you(just what are you afraid of?)

For myself, I enjoy the discussions, seeing the different viewpoints that people have, seeing the different links that people provide, and seeing civil discourse...

You however, seem to want to be nothing more than a disruptor, offering nothing substantial(unless you call doing nothing but hurl insults to be substantial)...others have hurled insults at you, no doubt, but that does seem to be because when the evos have tried to have a rational discourse with you, you refuse to enter into any sort of rational discourse, but jump immediately to insulting people..

If you disagree with evolution, then lets see some well thought out discussion about it coming from you...

Do you really have so much time to waste, by looking up each and every evolutionists posting times, and comparing them with others? Are you really that insecure?...Does it make you feel better to claim that all posters claiming to believe in evolution, are really only a very few, posting under many various screen names...Are you also very paranoid?...

As I said, I would like to see useful discussion, coming from all differing opinions...but, unfortunately since your posts seem to be just silly insults, I have to skip right over them, telling myself, as usual, nothing substantive coming form Mamzelle...

Your complaint a few days ago, was that those on the Evolution threads seem to post no where else....even if that were true, so what...why would that bother you?...is there some special secret rule here on FR, that one MUST post on various threads, or does JimRob grant that all different posters have different interests, and post where their interests are?....Yes, JR does grant that, and if thats good enough for him, its good enough for me, and certainly should be good enough for you...its really none of your business where a poster posts, and how often they post...

You just want to make some sort of weird conspiracy where one does not exist...according to you, there are very few evoltionary believers on FR, and the few that do exist post under multiple screen names, and post only to evolutionary theads...That seems to be your scenario, which you cannot prove, and which exists only in your mind, and which you seem to want to use to justify, why you post nothing substantial, but rather choose to merely insult...because those evos are so mean, so snide, so sneaky, you have to drive them FR...see there, I can make up little stories too..


120 posted on 11/29/2005 4:46:35 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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