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Mirecki hospitalized after beating (KU Relig. prof. who mocked religion)
Lawrence Journal World ^ | 12/05/05 | Ron Knox

Posted on 12/05/2005 8:13:08 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht

Mirecki hospitalized after beating

By Ron Knox, Eric Weslander (Contact)

Originally published 05:37 p.m., December 5, 2005 Updated 06:31 p.m., December 5, 2005

Douglas County sheriff’s deputies are investigating the reported beating of a Kansas University professor who gained recent notoriety for his Internet tirades against Christian fundamentalists.

Kansas University religious studies professor Paul Mirecki reported he was beaten by two men about 6:40 a.m. today on a roadside in rural Douglas County. In a series of interviews late this afternoon, Mirecki said the men who beat him were making references to the controversy that has propelled him into the headlines in recent weeks. Mirecki

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“I didn’t know them, but I’m sure they knew me,” he said.

Mirecki said he was driving to breakfast when he noticed the men tailgating him in a pickup truck.

“I just pulled over hoping they would pass, and then they pulled up real close behind,” he said. “They got out, and I made the mistake of getting out.”

He said the men beat him about the upper body with their fists, and he said he thinks they struck him with a metal object. He was treated and released at Lawrence Memorial Hospital.

“I’m mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots,” he said.

Douglas County Sheriff’s Officials are classifying the case as an aggravated battery. They wouldn’t say exactly where the incident happened, citing the ongoing investigation

The sheriff’s department is looking for the suspects, described as two white males between ages 30 and 40, one wearing a red visor and wool gloves, and both wearing jeans. They were last seen in a large pickup truck.

Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 843-TIPS or the sheriff’s office at 841-0007.

Mirecki recently wrote online that he planned to teach intelligent design as mythology in an upcoming course. He wrote it would be a “nice slap” in the “big fat face” of fundamentalists.

The remarks caused an uproar, Mirecki apologized, and KU announced last week the class would be canceled.


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KEYWORDS: ameritaliban; cawcaw; crevolist; fakehatecrimes; falsechristian; idgoons; ku; legbreakersforchrist; mirecki; paulmirecki; religionofpeace; talibornagain; unsaved
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To: Fester Chugabrew

reel me in. I swallowed the hook. ;-)


681 posted on 12/07/2005 11:16:00 AM PST by OB1kNOb (I'm gonna boogie oogie woogie til I just can't boogie no more..............)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
For the the time being I would simply like to know why you and your cheerleaders have refrained from criticizing this loopy professor for setting up a class dedicated toward the ridicule of people with different beliefs.

If you can't see the difference between making fun of people and beating them up, then we can't help you.

682 posted on 12/07/2005 11:17:00 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"No. You have been making post 461 your topic of choice."

I wasn't the first to comment on it, but it IS a disgusting post, one that should have no place on the Free Republic. Why I am being taken to task for challenging such a vile post instead of being supported says all too much about you and your buddies.

Your silence says all we need to know.
683 posted on 12/07/2005 11:17:11 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: highball

If you can't see the connection between making fun of people and getting beaten up then we can't help you, either.


684 posted on 12/07/2005 11:20:42 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: highball
Yes, posters are responsible for what they say or in some cases refuse to say on these boards.

Oh, great, now are the posting Nazis not only judging what is written, but what is not written.

Well let me get to that, because I have been really T.O.-ed at the "defenders of science" on the crevo threads. But when scientists make total asses of themselves, when science is perverted, when science is misused, or abused, they are nowhere to be found:

When textbooks read like manifestos and respected scientists tarnish the profession with their tarnished professions, there's nary a peep.

But when somebody, somewhere suggests that maybe there might be a hole or two in the theories to which many scientists cling to like a security blanket, well here comes the descending chorus.

Well, if evo is taught in the high schools, junior high schools or elementary schools in any way like earth science is taught by the textbook in the second link, then it is nothing more than religious dogma that is "taught" without any critical analysis or means by which the students can assess the claims.

If scientists care, really care, about science, then they should focus their energies on individuals who practice the art and who claim ownership of the scientific method for their pronouncements. Instead of merely treating ID like a member of the humanities (I contend that there is much more solid ID scholarship than virtually all of the humanities and social sciences. Of course, I think there is more scholarship at DeVry than in the humanities and social sciences.), they eagerly pounce upon it with a fury that has not been seen since the times of Galileo.

But I suppose attacks against science only matter when your grant dollars are at risk.

So, yes, I am willing to hold posters responsible for what they refuse to say.

But back to the case at hand: What beating?

685 posted on 12/07/2005 11:22:15 AM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Possibly, all the creationists simply suport #461.

Clearly none find it offensive.


686 posted on 12/07/2005 11:23:23 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
. . . but it IS a disgusting post, one that should have no place on the Free Republic.

Spare me the self-gratifying self-righteousness, thou holy one. Tell me what the proper reaction should be to a professor who establishes a class dedicated to the ridicule of other people's beliefs.

687 posted on 12/07/2005 11:24:23 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: AmishDude

Don't you ever read your links? Your link to the textbook complaints belies your statements.


688 posted on 12/07/2005 11:34:28 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
From the second link:
THE FUNDAMENTAL LAWS AND PRINCIPLES OF HUMAN ECOLOGY
Oh, yeah, this is science...
689 posted on 12/07/2005 11:38:13 AM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
I, for one, think it is wrong to off abortionists.

There.

Would you like my comment on all of the other 688 posts, too?

690 posted on 12/07/2005 11:42:48 AM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"Spare me the self-gratifying self-righteousness, thou holy one. Tell me what the proper reaction should be to a professor who establishes a class dedicated to the ridicule of other people's beliefs."

The proper reaction? Ridicule. And spare me YOUR self-gratifying self-righteousness; I don't need lessons in morality from someone who can't find it in himself to condemn an Eric Rudolph.
691 posted on 12/07/2005 11:43:16 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: AmishDude
"I, for one, think it is wrong to off abortionists.

There."

That's all that was necessary to be said.

"Would you like my comment on all of the other 688 posts, too?"

Not really. :)
692 posted on 12/07/2005 11:45:20 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Furthermore, assuming Rudolph is guilty of what he is charged with, he should get the Tookie treatment.

And Tookie should get the needle, but I want the last thing for him to hear is his ridiculous book being read aloud by Fran Drescher.

693 posted on 12/07/2005 11:51:51 AM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
The proper reaction? Ridicule.

Not an ounce of which has been forthcoming from you and your cheerleaders.

I don't need lessons in morality from someone who can't find it in himself to condemn an Eric Rudolph.

Far be it from me to engage in teaching morality to mules that equate terrorism with pugilsm.

694 posted on 12/07/2005 11:52:35 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: AmishDude
And Tookie should get the needle, but I want the last thing for him to hear is his ridiculous book being read aloud by Fran Drescher.

Can't do it. Eighth Amendment violation.

695 posted on 12/07/2005 11:56:26 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: AmishDude
"And Tookie should get the needle, but I want the last thing for him to hear is his ridiculous book being read aloud by Fran Drescher."

Now THAT'S cruel and unusual punishment; I like it. :)
696 posted on 12/07/2005 11:57:17 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Right Wing Professor
Eighth Amendment violation.

Is the book cruel and Fran unusual or is it vice versa?

697 posted on 12/07/2005 11:57:55 AM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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masochistic bookmark


698 posted on 12/07/2005 11:59:21 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"Far be it from me to engage in teaching morality to mules that equate terrorism with pugilsm."

Since we did no such thing, how about we change it to, "Far be for you to teach morality to anybody." You aren't up to the challenge.
699 posted on 12/07/2005 11:59:46 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: AmishDude
[Vanity] Does this stuff belong in an 8th Grade Science Textbook? You tell me.:

Didn't see this (and [Vanity] usually means I won't) but let's look at post number 4 on the thread.

I wouldn't let my children by taught by an atheist. This is what you get.

So I would likely have agreed with much of the criticism, but there is no way I'm going to let a piece of bigotry like that slide, so we would have had a food fight instead.

700 posted on 12/07/2005 12:02:00 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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