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Creation evangelist derides evolution as ‘dumbest’ theory [Kent Hovind Alert!]
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Post ^ | 17 December 2005 | Kayla Bunge

Posted on 12/17/2005 3:58:48 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: sirchtruth
the only LIE I know of is the Long Island Expressway and it hasn't evolved in many years.

as far as lies go....or more correctly misinformation, just read the writings of the superstitious, bronze age, sandal wearing, goat herders.
41 posted on 12/17/2005 6:30:57 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" R. A. Heinlein)
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To: sirchtruth

OK We got it. The idea makes you feel uncomfortable. And yout feelings matter.


42 posted on 12/17/2005 6:31:19 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (so natural to mankind is intolerance in whatever they really care about - J S Mill)
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To: sirchtruth
Yeah, what does all this have to do with the LIE of evolution?

I'll take that as an admission that Hovind is a scammer, a tax cheat and a nutball.

43 posted on 12/17/2005 6:36:32 AM PST by AntiScumbag
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To: Senator Bedfellow; AntiScumbag
So, basically Hovind is a criminal fleecing the brainwashed flock by calling a couple of centuries worth of scientific research a lie and the Luddites swarm to him with $millions in donations?
44 posted on 12/17/2005 6:43:11 AM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: sirchtruth
There is no SCIENTIFIC proof evolution is valid, yet it is taught in such a way that would lead a mind of mush to believe it is fact...and some evolutionist will flatty state it is FACT!

Please tell me you're just paraphrasing some big media huckster and aren't really ignorant enough to honestly believe what your posting here? Please?

45 posted on 12/17/2005 6:46:13 AM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Since I asked for some of your *facts* that disprove evolution,

How do you provide FACTS which disprove something when there's no facts which prove the premise in the first place. Here I'll give you one fact that ends the debate.

Evolution can not be observed because of the "stated" amount of time it would take for one species to evolve into another. The only problem with this fact is the definition of "species." A dog, is a dog, is a dog.

46 posted on 12/17/2005 6:49:16 AM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: shuckmaster
the Luddites swarm to him with $millions in donations?

They love his tax-exempt theme park!

Fits right in with the rest of their delusions.

48 posted on 12/17/2005 6:54:20 AM PST by AntiScumbag
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


49 posted on 12/17/2005 6:55:11 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: sirchtruth

" Evolution can not be observed because of the "stated" amount of time it would take for one species to evolve into another."

False:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html
http://online.santarosa.edu/presentation/?3205

BTW, direct observation is only ONE way to gather evidence about something. Many theories in science are centered on indirect observations.


"The only problem with this fact is the definition of "species." A dog, is a dog, is a dog."

Why is this a problem? How do YOU define species?


50 posted on 12/17/2005 6:55:50 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Senator Bedfellow
LOL. This is how Hovind makes a living - he doesn't speak for free. If you look up his tax lien (available here in PDF format) and then work the tax tables backwards (Hovind is married, right?), you realize that the IRS is calculating his 1995 income at about $430,000, 1996 at about $365,000, and 1997 at around $750,000.

It makes you wonder what must have happened to Hovind's income since the internet got really BIG. Look at how the incomes of other internet operations have rocketed...

51 posted on 12/17/2005 6:56:42 AM PST by Thatcherite (F--ked in the afterlife, bullying feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: bobdsmith
Of course there is evidence for that,

There is pure CONJECTURE for that and you know it and to assert otherwise is being totally dishonest.

This is a perfect example of evolutionist trying to make something factual which is not!
Holy Moly, I put up a laughable conjecturous theme up in the air and you're going to try to turn it into a fact? And you evolutionist wonder why people don't believe your B.S.?

52 posted on 12/17/2005 6:57:14 AM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: shuckmaster

Well, we don't know how much is donations versus speaking fees, but other than that, pretty much :)


53 posted on 12/17/2005 6:59:23 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: sirchtruth
And you evolutionist wonder why people don't believe your B.S.?

I've found the usual reason to be a complete lack of interest in the evidence, and a complete lack of interest in "searching for the truth".

54 posted on 12/17/2005 6:59:57 AM PST by Thatcherite (F--ked in the afterlife, bullying feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: sirchtruth
There is pure CONJECTURE for that and you know it and to assert otherwise is being totally dishonest.

Nope sorry, the idea that the grand canyon was created in 30 minutes (or seconds, or hours) is pure CONJECTURE. Anything that is based on at least some evidence is better than such conjecture.

55 posted on 12/17/2005 7:01:36 AM PST by bobdsmith
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To: Thatcherite
Look at how the incomes of other internet operations have rocketed...

True. And I probably omitted his largest source of income from my last post, his book and video sales. I would hazard that being able to sell directly on the internet has caused his income on that front to go through the roof. The conclusion is obvious - we're in the wrong line of work, my friend...

56 posted on 12/17/2005 7:02:55 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: bobdsmith
Nope sorry, the idea that the grand canyon was created in 30 minutes (or seconds, or hours) is pure CONJECTURE.

You give it too much credit. I would classify it either as delusion or fantasy, on a par with any folly that includes Xenu as a causative agent somewhere within its line of reasoning.

57 posted on 12/17/2005 7:05:29 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
The peppered moth is a fine example of natural selection in action. There is nothing wrong wrong with using it.

What Hovind exposes is the fact that believers in the religion of evolutionist theory GLUED the moths to trees to try and support their "thoery."

Needless to say, after the evolutionist got through pasting the moths to tress, they were still moths.

Yeah Kent for exposing the ignorant people behind evolution!!!

58 posted on 12/17/2005 7:13:41 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: AntiScumbag

If you think the IRS waits a year and a half to indict people, you will be quite happy believing the fairty tale of evolution.

BTW, the IRS has tried the same tactic with Kent before and they ended up apologizing and returning his cars.


59 posted on 12/17/2005 7:15:42 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: peyton randolph; PatrickHenry

Man, you are really showing your ignorance!!!

Dr. Hovind is not a part of the Bible Believers Bookshop. And he makes very little money off the materials he produces because he does not copyright them. He allows people to copy them and do with them what they will.

He has some excellent materials at a great price. But he never tries to charge people more than what they are worth and if you called him today and told him you needed something and could not afford it, he would give it away to you for free.

I have personally seen him do that.

So stop trying to malign the guy and get your facts straight before you post lies about the man on a public forum.


60 posted on 12/17/2005 7:19:43 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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