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Creation evangelist derides evolution as ‘dumbest’ theory [Kent Hovind Alert!]
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Post ^ | 17 December 2005 | Kayla Bunge

Posted on 12/17/2005 3:58:48 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: Dimensio; Jorge
[Darwin states that evolution is contrary to what the Bible teaches.]

Even if he did, that's not what you initially claimed. You called evolution an "idiot theory" and you said that it was designed to "disprove the Bible". Retroactively changing your claim now is fundamentally dishonest.

Indeed -- Jorge's dishonest backpedaling is duly noted.

941 posted on 12/17/2005 10:52:05 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Baraonda
Why do I feel this Darwin character plagiarized God's work - ie the Bible?

I don't know. Why don't you tell us? I don't know any rational people who have ever made such a claim. Actually, I don't know anyone, rational or otherwise, who has made the claim. You would be the first.

It's my opinion tha he was.

Can you support your "opinion" with evidence? I can claim that George W. Bush is a crack dealer and it has as much weight as your "opinion" on Darwin unless you're willing to pony up some evidence.

I'm not liying, I'm just offering my educated opinion based on experience, research, educational backgroung and belief.

Experience and research that you've thus far absolutely refused to document to anyone. Why should we believe you when you present nothing to support your claims?
942 posted on 12/17/2005 10:55:07 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Ichneumon
OK. I gotta close the lid here.

If I wish all you evolutionists a Merry Christmas, will you wish me the same? I mean, afterall, most of you profess to be Christian too.

Merry Christmas

943 posted on 12/17/2005 10:57:22 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: Dimensio

"Can you support your "opinion" with evidence?"

No. It's still an opinion. No evidence as of now.


944 posted on 12/17/2005 10:58:59 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: Baraonda
OK. I gotta close the lid here.

Time for me to hit the hay too.

If I wish all you evolutionists a Merry Christmas, will you wish me the same?

As for myself, I already did in post #847.

945 posted on 12/17/2005 10:59:47 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Dimensio

"Why should we believe you when you present nothing to support your claims?"

Hey, I'm just a beginner here. Give me some time before I can support my opinions. You'll never know, I may move into the evolutionst cult camp when I'm finished reading and researching.


946 posted on 12/17/2005 11:02:17 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: Full Court

Regarding your post #899...There are too many self-professed Christians(they are great Christians, just ask them they will tell you they are)who try to claim that they and their own personal interpretations of the Bible, are the only 'truth' of the Bible, and anyone who has a different interpretation cannot be a true Christian...I find that whole scenario to be ugly, and demeaning...and yes, 'bad'....its no longer a matter of having a disagreement, its a matter of trying to absolutely discredit someones faith, and they do it in the most vile manner...so yes, that is very 'bad'...there is a way to discuss religion, without calling people names, and telling them that their religion is from the Devil...

In my book, you cannot be a true Christian and act this way...These self professed Christians claim to have a higher moral standard than other people, but it seems they dont think that they have to live up to it, when they lie...the Bible is very explicit about liars...the Bible says that Satan is the father of liars...its almost as if an evolutionist should lie, thats to be expected by creationists, because of course, evolutionists have no moral standard, not like us Christians...but continually and knowingly making statements that are false, and then somehow justifying that by claiming, well, we are lying for God, so we will be excused, does not jive with the Bible...

Thats as good as I can explain it...


947 posted on 12/17/2005 11:04:24 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: Jorge
>>I believe in evolution, so I'm gay.

>Huh?

Hey, you're the one who brought homosexuality into this. I guess what you're really trying to say is that God isn't all-powerful.

Where in the Bible does it say evolution isn't true? It says God only used six days in the first chapter, but it also says He created plants and animals before man in the first chapter and He created man first in the second chapter. Which is it? They can't both be the literal word of God, since they contradict each other. Instead, they are both descriptions of why rather than how, and evolution is our best understanding of how.

948 posted on 12/17/2005 11:04:55 PM PST by Thalos
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To: Baraonda

Indeed, ,this Christian also wishes everyone a good nites sleep, and a very Merry Christmas...


949 posted on 12/17/2005 11:10:57 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: XeniaSt
[Talking about the Pope] Let's see does he believe in and follow the Holy Word of G-d?

Genesis 9:6 “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man.

No. I think he has a problem with G-d.

Maybe one day you'll start reading the New Testament. In the meantime, I hope you eat your steaks well done.

950 posted on 12/17/2005 11:30:25 PM PST by Thalos
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To: Ichneumon
List the citations.

Seeing as you guys are such experts on the subject, list them yourself.. or are you yet another who stands on the street throwing dirt at something he hasn't even bothered see for himself - another armchair superior intellect sitting above it all scoffing from ignorance.. The videos are free. Please tell us you have a clue. I'd hate to see you guys show yourselves ignorant prejudicial jackboot drones marching to some script cause you can't think for yourselves...

951 posted on 12/17/2005 11:48:09 PM PST by Havoc (President George and King George.. coincidence?)
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To: Ichneumon
Only a creationist would be so ignorant as to think that gullies in ash are comparable to the kinds of features found in the Grand Canyon

Apparently you are as ignorant about Spirit lake as you are about Hovind. "gullies in ash.." You're either ignorant of your subject or a liar. The vast mudflows in the aftermath of the eruption may have included ash; but, they were hardly 'ashflows' as you would profer in ignorance. Go learn something and come back when you know what you're talking about. Don't waste our time pontificating from ignorance.

952 posted on 12/17/2005 11:53:02 PM PST by Havoc (President George and King George.. coincidence?)
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To: PatrickHenry
Some day soon ... you're in for a nasty surprise - eternity where the sun doesn't shine.

So Hell is Alaska in the wintertime?

953 posted on 12/17/2005 11:55:46 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: Art of Unix Programming by Raymond)
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To: Coyoteman
Barrow?

<sigh> just keep reading, Jenny. Just keep reading... :-)

954 posted on 12/17/2005 11:57:05 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: Art of Unix Programming by Raymond)
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To: Full Court
Your rejection of God is between you and Him.

When you are standing before God, and he says, "Why did you believe a book written by your less knowledgeable ancestors over the evidence of origins I left all around you?", don't come whining to me.

955 posted on 12/18/2005 12:00:13 AM PST by Thatcherite (Evolutionists should be burned at the stake)
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To: Senator Bedfellow

Thanks for posting # 622 as a reminder. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Hovind could be hauled off in cuffs by the IRS and these guys would still defend him.


956 posted on 12/18/2005 12:01:03 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Baraonda; Ichneumon
Anyway, I always skip them long posts.

A pity. A pity which shows your contempt for learning and evidence and your desire to avoid learning anything that might disturb your comfortable belief about the special place in creation that you and a few others who think like you occupy. Ichneumon's science posts are jam-packed full of interesting information and physical evidence. I can see why you'd skip them.

957 posted on 12/18/2005 12:02:28 AM PST by Thatcherite (Evolutionists should be burned at the stake)
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To: Full Court
Nobody reads your copy and pastings

You evidently don't, which is your misfortune.

958 posted on 12/18/2005 12:04:08 AM PST by Thatcherite (Evolutionists should be burned at the stake)
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To: Havoc
If it's about fleecing the flock, why do you suppose he publically tells people to order his stuff, copy it and send it back for a refund. His stuff is not copywritten for that very purpose. Care to indulge in another falsehood?

As explained previously (and I'll try to use simple words so you can understand it this time), this is known as loss leader marketing materials. Hovind makes his profit on the back end from the sheep who believe his bilge and then pay for his speeches, entry into his bible theme park, donate money to him, etc. As also explained previously (see post # 622 for a link to a related story), the IRS has found that Hovind has been making in excess of $ 1 million per year and not paying taxes. Care to explain why he's not rendering unto Caesar?

YAAFM

959 posted on 12/18/2005 12:06:46 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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"10,000+ Homosexual Christian clergy believe in evolution" placemark
960 posted on 12/18/2005 12:25:22 AM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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