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To: Coleus

"The immorality of the IVF procedure consists primarily in the destruction of the multiple extra embryos that are created in a laboratory along with the one or two that successfully come to birth. The moral principle violated by this procedure is the most fundamental of all moral tenets: one can never do an evil in order that good may come of it. Here, the sacrifice of the many babies in order to get one or two to grow into healthy children is so wrong that it overrides the infertile couple's right to have a child."



Have YOU actually undergone an IVF procedure? Do you actually know what all is involved?? The doctors are not mad scientists throwing embryos this way and that, for Pete's sake! Sometimes eggs or sperm are united and the embryo dies ON ITS OWN, not because a doctor is sitting there killing them...I know that there are immoral doctors out there, but my God, throwing everyone involved in this is just wrong, NOT the procedure. Like I posted before, GOD gave us the technology to help people who are victims of infertility. Will we be seeing you post articles about recalling wheelchairs, eyeglasses, hearing aids, etc?? What about all those soldiers coming back from Iraq?? I guess they shouldn't get prosthetic legs and arms because God intended for them to be armless or legless for the rest of their lives??? AAAAArrrrggghhhh! This aggravates me so much.


12 posted on 01/03/2006 5:56:18 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX)
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To: pillut48
http://www.ivfctrstl.org/ivf-multiples.htm

Additional embryos may be frozen and stored

this is the way it's done. how on earth do you think there are embryos (400,000 of them in the USA) available for embryonic stem cell research, they don't come out of thin air, they come from IVF clinics, they are the left-over children, the discarded children.
15 posted on 01/03/2006 5:59:50 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: pillut48
I don't want to upset you and congratulations on a beautiful girl (I have 3 of my own and one on the way) however your rebuttal is kind of apples to oranges.

Creating wheelchairs, artificial limbs,ect does not destroy a human life. If the IVF practice was to take one egg and implant it and let nature work I would have zero problems with it.

16 posted on 01/03/2006 6:04:32 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: pillut48

I've come to the conclusion that you're absolutely clueless, and hysterical. What's the point of debating with someone who can't see the difference between destroying embryos and wearing eyeglasses?


234 posted on 01/05/2006 5:23:32 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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