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Bush will win on Immigration to save the Republican Party.

Posted on 03/27/2006 9:53:41 AM PST by Pukin Dog

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To: stylin19a
Back in the 60s, when medicare was first passed,(or whenever it was, I am old and memory fails now and then!) I spoke up and tried to get everyone I know to be against it. Vote it out, kill it, drop it, whatever it takes. No way, no one was having it. Medicare, all by itself, caused the high cost of health care as we know it today, never mind the new Rx part. Before medicare the average person could afford medical insurance and in most cases didn't need it.

You can't convince a liberal, and a lot of conservatives, of this though, no matter the evidence around the world of the failure of taxpayer funded healthcare.

161 posted on 03/27/2006 10:34:34 AM PST by calex59 (seeing the light shouldn't make you go blind)
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To: Pukin Dog
Pukin Dog, you have to know that I respect you so much.

That said, where do you get the idea that this forum does not reflect popular opinion against Illegal immigration?

sw

162 posted on 03/27/2006 10:34:49 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: oblomov

Are you familiar with Napolean's idea of what to do with mobs? A whiff of grapeshot and they'll disperse.


164 posted on 03/27/2006 10:35:24 AM PST by Flavius Josephus (War today is always cheaper than war tomorrow.)
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To: F16Fighter
Please knock off the personal stuff, and that means you.
165 posted on 03/27/2006 10:35:25 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: markman46

I don't need to bother with deporting them, take away their jobs, government benefits, any future opportunity of becoming citizens and the vast majority will deport themselves.

You then announce that anyone caught here after a certain date will face the forfeiture of all their assets, jail time and permanent expulsion from the U.S. That will take care of the majority of those left.

After that we round up the stragglers as the chance presents itself.

It's really very simple.


166 posted on 03/27/2006 10:36:04 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: MineralMan
Start busting the mini-van drivers picking them up at the local Home Depot. Send the ICE guys into every restaurant in each city. Move on to the motels. Arrest the managers and owners of these businesses for hiring illegals.

If this were to occur, the outcry against such actions would resemble the anger at the TABC in Texas arresting intoxicated people who are sitting in bars. And all the TABC is doing is enforcing public intoxication laws.

167 posted on 03/27/2006 10:36:23 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: zook

I'm not prejudiced against races - just against cultures. Including the ones South of the Border.


168 posted on 03/27/2006 10:36:30 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Types_with_Fist

Especially since there is almost unanimous bi-partisan support in the country for action. 75-90%, something in there.


169 posted on 03/27/2006 10:36:34 AM PST by Flavius Josephus (War today is always cheaper than war tomorrow.)
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To: Pukin Dog
PD, I respectfully disagree with you on this one.

It's never too late to do what's right!

170 posted on 03/27/2006 10:36:59 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: zook

Ok, but now how do you know they're illegal?


They say so, I speak the lingo and they are not afraid to brag about it, since nobody is being deported, NOBODY.


171 posted on 03/27/2006 10:37:14 AM PST by TomasUSMC ((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
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To: TomasUSMC
"But Latinos who were born here WILL vote GOP when they see the crime go down and wages go up because someone in the GOP has the cojones to stop Illegals.

Excellent point!

sw

172 posted on 03/27/2006 10:37:20 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: arasina

Scan the various posts today regarding immigration. Then tell me that my statement was false, that some posters here are prejudice against Mexicans. When I see someone post stuff like "I see all these illegals every day...," don't you wonder how they can figure this out just by looking? One poster talked about how some illegal Mexican caused a terrible car accident, as if illegal Mexicans are mostly to blame for this.


174 posted on 03/27/2006 10:38:23 AM PST by zook
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To: Siena Dreaming
However, the agents at the border wouldn't solve the problem of deporting the 20,000,000 already in the country.

Correct, so why hire anymore? Everyone seems to want more BP Agents, but no one wants to hire more ICE agents, which is what we need.

No tax hike is needed to have ICE shut down employers of illegals. Once the jobs are gone, the illegals will leave on their own. It's a proven theory.

175 posted on 03/27/2006 10:38:24 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: sinkspur
Until the protests I agreed with you. I figured nothing would pass. Now, Congress has to act. Neither side can afford to do nothing, because of the coming election. Bush's version is the only version that can pass, so it will pass, just so both sides can say they did something. Mark it down.
176 posted on 03/27/2006 10:38:28 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache, so don't be hatin'. LOL!)
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To: sinkspur

"If this were to occur, the outcry against such actions would resemble the anger at the TABC in Texas arresting intoxicated people who are sitting in bars. And all the TABC is doing is enforcing public intoxication laws."

I don't think so. But, I'm exaggerating a little, for effect. It's obvious that nobody's going to do any of that type of enforcement.

Nobody would be able to eat in any restaurant in the southwest, nor stay in any hotel if they did that. That's clear. Even here in Minnesota, such businesses hire lots of illegals. They're there. All ICE has to do is go enforce the laws. But they won't, of course.


178 posted on 03/27/2006 10:39:08 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: zook
"From this and from some of your other replies, I'd say you have some kind of fixation on that particular bodily function."

Brilliant, Sparky.

You're MUCH funnier than Don Rickles.

179 posted on 03/27/2006 10:39:16 AM PST by F16Fighter (Help elect a pro - U.S. sovereignty/anti-illegal invasion President THIS NEXT TIME)
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To: Fee
"What if most of the guest workers go underground when the deadline date to return arrives??"

That's the whole strategery right there in a nut shell. This shamnesty only kicks the can down the road and Bush and his enablers know it. Why would an invader sign up to be tracked when they are working now under the table without any tracking? Why would an employer hire a documented invader over an undocumented invader when he can pay the latter less wages without any benefits? Where will the funds come from to chase the invaders around the country 7 years from now? Who will monitor their kids to ensure they speak English? You and I both know none of this will happen. It will status quo plus an additional 10 million invaders in 7 years. Shouldn't we at least insist Vicente give us Cancun as payback for taking care of his citizens?

180 posted on 03/27/2006 10:39:35 AM PST by blaquebyrd
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