Conclusions From Uncounted Creation/Evolution Debates

PatrickHenry | 10 June 2006 | PatrickHenry (vanity)

[PatrickHenry]

Would it be inappropriate if I said: "Everyone be nice"?

[PatrickHenry]

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[cripplecreek]

I believe a combination of both.

[balrog666]

As we have seen on another thread:

You are overstating the obvious.

And that is, at best, barely sufficient.

And, yes, we need to all be nice just in case we get moved to the Religion Forum.

[Tax-chick]

Would it be inappropriate if I said: "Everyone be nice"?

I say that often. Sometimes it helps :-).

Have a good weekend!

[Coyoteman]

I like your second 2. better than your first 2.

Good post though. Should carry us through the rest of the weekend anyway.

[ml1954]

Creationism is a religious doctrine.

That's a pretty stout limb you wandered onto :). Your other points are spot on as well.

[PatrickHenry]

You are overstating the obvious.

Yeah, but I wanted to get it all in one place. Doesn't matter how active the thread gets. It's more of an archive of information than a debate.

[PatrickHenry]

I've been informed that the second and third of my major points are each number 2. I'll try to get by the embarrassment.

[SaveUS]

"I believe a combination of both."

Me too. It didn't happen in seven days. Sorry. Not beleiving in the seven day theory doesn't mean I'm going to hell. It just means that my God is such a good scientist that none of the authors of the bible could possibly comprehend the message they were trying to write. I skip over the things man tried to wrongly comprehend though and say, if there is no God, where the heck did it come from? I have no problem with a Big Bang theory, especially since the way the bible explains it, the Big Bang would have been a colossal Bang that had about 5 billion years all wrapped into seven days. But, what happened a couple of days before the big bang? Everything was null and void, and without form? Ok, what was it made of? Who made that? I can beleive in God without beleiving that the people who interpreted the the bible knew what the heck God was giving them. No, "God did it" doesn't work for me. I beleive God did it, but I want to know how. And to do that, I use the scientific method. Which gives us just about every piece of technology we have today.

[freedumb2003]

Those 154 are the totality of biologists who are evolution skeptics. Did you get that? The actual comparison is 46,600 biologists who accept evolution and a mere 154 who are "skeptical."

A lot of this bears repeating, but this part in particular.

[freedumb2003]

Darwinism is a cult based on faith and belief.

Yes, like Newtonism and Pastuerism and other studies that rely on a theorerical underpinning.

I mean, everything is a belief and all beliefs are equal, right?

[VadeRetro]

The actual comparison is 46,600 biologists who accept evolution and a mere 154 who are "skeptical."

But you have no proof, monkey-boy! </Luddite_mode>

(Thank God for the SBR!)

[b_sharp]

Well said.

However I would like to see the very mistaken claim that Darwinism (whatever that happens to be) is separate from the science of evolution and is nothing more than a religion, addressed.

Although the many who describe Darwinism as a religion attempt to separate this imaginary philosophical position from the sciences it is quite apparent that they have a decidedly anti-science lean. It would be helpful to enumerate the many tactics used in the attempts to divorce the (many) evolutionary sciences which contribute to the SToE from 'True(TM)' science.

[VadeRetro]

I've been informed that the second and third of my major points are each number 2. I'll try to get by the embarrassment.

People with dyscountia should use the <ol> HTML feature.

[cripplecreek]

The big bang is a good place to start. There was a formless void and then there was light.

[PatrickHenry]

Thank God for the SBR!

In a fit of weekend caprice, this thread may get moved to breaking news.

[Coyoteman]

Although the many who describe Darwinism as a religion attempt to separate this imaginary philosophical position from the sciences it is quite apparent that they have a decidedly anti-science lean.

If evolution is a religion, what are geology, biology, zoology and all the other sciences? Denominations?

No wonder inter-departmental battles are so nasty!

[PatrickHenry]

It would be helpful to enumerate the many tactics used in the attempts to divorce the (many) evolutionary sciences which contribute to the SToE from 'True(TM)' science.

I guess that's a good topic for another vanity thread.