Lucy: Clearcut Case of Evolutionist Fraud

Answers in Genesis ^ | 2003 | Dr. David Menton, Brown Univ.

[freedumb2003]

Astonishing 88% of Americans Believe in Creation or God-Directed Evolution [!]

Unless we understand the subtext of those beliefs, this is meaningless. If 88% of americans beleived in astrology it would'nt make astrology correct (logical fallacy: "appeal to auhority"). It would just prove that 88% of Americans have fallen prey to the lowered scholastic standards.

When no one is here to hold you accountable, you CRIDers use logical fallacies as crutches to support your inability to debate the issue using facts.

[JCEccles]

Fake but accurate.

This is science that Dan Rather could appreciate.

[celmak]

Celmak has no clue what he is saying.

I'll ask you:

So you're saying that Evolution should be taught in science class because few people believe Evolution to be true? Most people in this country believe their horoscopes too. Do you think we should include astrology alongside astronomy? Most people of my acquaintance at least seem to have lucky numbers they play in the lottery; should we include numerancy (sic) in our math courses?

More rewording:

Hey, playing the percentages, a vast majority of Muslims believe we all need to die. Line em' up boys, the verdict is in. No, sorry, we took a poll and all Christians must die.

You see, it makes much more sense when you use your words in the true sense of reality. But since you don't live in reality, it's understandable.

[freedumb2003]

This is science that Dan Rather could appreciate.

Given a line made up of thousands of points, you choose a point to debate and then say the line is invalid.

Intellectual dishonesty, the mark of a CRIDer.

And I think I can do this on this thread without my buddies, so I am not pinging anyone. It is all too easy.

[js1138]

We'll just sit back and smile.

[freedumb2003]

We'll just sit back and smile.

Well, they will be able to attack my typing. When I get in a hurry, it can get pretty bad.

And we all know that bad typing is a sign of bad thought.

[celmak]

Unless we understand the subtext of those beliefs, this is meaningless. If 88% of americans (sic) beleived(sic) in astrology it would'nt (sic) make astrology correct (logical fallacy: "appeal to auhority(sic)"). It would just prove that 88% of Americans have fallen prey to the lowered scholastic standards. When no one is here to hold you accountable, you CRIDers use logical fallacies as crutches to support your inability to debate the issue using facts.

Read the threads!

Fact: An Evo stated more educated people believe Evolution to be true.

Fact: I proved that more educated people know Creation to be true.

Question: where is the logical fallacy in these 2 facts?

P.S.: Why should I believe a person who couldn't pass a grade school English class? USE SPELL CHECK!

[celmak]

And we all know that bad typing is a sign of bad thought.

Along with spell check, press the thought check on your science, more than 600+ scientist with Ph.D.'s agree.

[js1138]

Too bad you are can't follow the discussion.

[celmak]

Too bad you are can't follow the discussion.

Another "Bad" thought. LOL!

[freedumb2003]

Along with spell check, press the thought check on your science, more than 600+ scientist with Ph.D.'s agree.

Before I proceed -- this is the the 600+ scientists who signed the letter supporting ID? And you are proffering this as an argument? I just want to make sure I am clear on your post.

[freedumb2003]

Fact: An Evo stated more educated people believe Evolution to be true.

I may have missed this. An "Argumentum ad populum" is pretty irrelevant, but if it floats your boat, fine.

Fact: I proved that more educated people know Creation to be true.

By definition it is impossible to prove people "know" Creation to be "true." The best you can hope for is to demonstrate x% of people BELIEVE Creation to be "true."

And for you I am making it a point to grammar and spell check since I know that these are the important points of the debate.

[tomzz]

The video is well worth the $12 or whatever AIG wants for a copy. It shows people watching the thing about evolutionists re-arranging the australopithicine pelvis from an ape's configuration to that of a human and everybody in the room is laughing out loud and THAT is the one thing which the evo-losers really cannot tolerate, and I think it was C.S. Lewis who said that "above all else, the devil cannot stand to be mocked" or something very close to that.

Evo-losers are absolutely immune to logic but they are not immune to ridicule, and the world has to learn to laugh at them. This video helps.

[freedumb2003]

See post 147 -- they DID attack my typing LOL!!!

It is like another version of what they teach law students: If you can't win on facts, argue the law. If you can't win on the law, argue the facts.

In this case, if you can't win on logic and you can't win on facts, attack the typing!

[freedumb2003]

Evo-losers are absolutely immune to logic but they are not immune to ridicule, and the world has to learn to laugh at them. This video helps.

Please explain how attacking one data point somehow undermines TToE. This is analogous to saying since Saint Christopher didn't exist, Christianity is a sham.

Please ensure your answers are grammatically correct since this is a fundamental part of the debate.

[freedumb2003]

I have to leave for a while in the Real World.

So please post your best answer and I will respond when I return. I know how quickly you CRIDers declare victory so I just wanted you to know my plans.

This will give you more time to consider your response. I suggest you think hard before responding, but that is up to you.
Once again, this post has been spell-checked to make sure it meets the logical argumentation requirements established by CRIDers.

Because Spelling and Grammar are the main point.

[tomzz]

Please explain how attacking one data point somehow undermines TToE. This is analogous to saying since Saint Christopher didn't exist, Christianity is a sham.

I'm not 'attacking one data point'; I'm claiming that in this particular case, evolutionists have been caught in an outright act of fraud and it is both clear and instructive that in their own minds they have done nothing wrong. They are so totally bought into a basic paradigm that they view any piece of evidence which contradicts that paradigm to be damaged and in need of some sort of repair or restoration.

By contrast, even the nazis and communists knew better than to buy into their own idiotic propaganda on a wholesale basis.

[js1138]

When Hitler used this argument against Einstein (100 Scientists Against Einstein) Einstein replied, If I were wrong, one would be enough.

[OmahaFields]

crossbread

Is that recipe like hot cross buns?

[OmahaFields]

gullible

You forgot those here that bought the $69.95 DVD from the creationist web-site only to find out it had the same dis-information as the $29.95 DVD they bought the year before.