Mary Cheney and Partner Are About to Be Moms

Washington Post ^ | December 6, 2006 | Amy Argetsinger and Roxanne Roberts

[linda_22003]

I've seen it happen, though, in two instances; the father had a tough time with a son's gayness and "decreed" what he would and would not put up with; in both cases the mother was the moderating influence and reconciled both sides over time.

[linda_22003]

You couldn't even read the first SENTENCE of the article to find the answer, before posting? That's lazy even by FR standards.

[LWalk18]

People say all kinds of things that they would do or accept, but you never know until you actually face the situation. Lots of people say that they would never accept a gay child, a biracial grandchild, or something else, but when it happens and they actually deal with having to say goodbye to their loved one forever, they can't do it.

Some can, however, and you have to wonder whether they understand the idea that you are supposed to love their children unconditionally.

I may not agree with Mary Cheney's decision to raise a child with her girlfriend, but it isn't my concern and I am glad the Cheneys have shown that they love their daughter and new grandchild.

[zerosix]

You're absolutely correct, linda_2203. Just read the title and it smack of such absurdity that two women were about to be moms, "Mary Cheney and Partner Are About to Be Moms," that I busted a gut, spit coffee all over my keyboard, while tackling a phone call.

Sorry about messing up your day.

Have a good day now and don't worry too much about my reading abilities nor sloppy posting.

[Howlin]

Exactly.

That old addage that you never know till you walk in a man's shoes sure holds true.

[Wallace T.]

An apt comparison may be made between radical Islam and Nazism. During the 1930s and early 1940s, there were certainly American supporters of Nazism, such as the German-American Bund, and like-minded fascist and white supremacist groups like the Silver Shirts and the Black Legion. However, the overall support for such groups was minimal, and while they deserved surveillance and were indeed spied upon, they never posed any significant ability to overthrow the Federal government. The principal threat from Nazism was external, that is, from the armed forces of Nazi Germany and its Japanese ally.

[DungeonMaster]

You're a horrible father.

LOL

[petitfour]

That old addage that you never know till you walk in a man's shoes sure holds true.

[OldGuard1]

You think the situation with same sex parents is bad now, just wait until a RINO like McCain or Giuliani gets the presidency. Yeah, they'll pretend during the primary like they'll vote against gay marriage and gay adoption and all of that, but just look at their voting records. McCain, for example -- against a federal same sex marriage ban, likes gays in the military, etc.

This country is in for a heap of trouble if we don't stop them.

[OldGuard1]

So let me get this straight -- you're a horrible father because you try to instill good morals in your children?

[se_ohio_young_conservative]

I cant believe some of the crap in this thread.

Mary Cheney is a dyke that is about to have a turkey baster baby ! thats immoral and disgusting

[linda_22003]

So, I take it you won't be sending a present to the shower? :)

[cowdog77]

No wonder this country is going down the tubes....

THE VICE PRESIDENT'S QUEER DAUGHTER IS HAVING A BABY!!

[se_ohio_young_conservative]

lol.

no..

[Wallace T.]

There are three types of law in the Old Testament: civil, religious, and moral.

The civil law, which covers areas such as punishment for theft, adultery, murder, etc., was applicable to a specific nation (Israel) in a given time frame (from the time of Moses to the dispersion of the Jewish nation after the fall of Jerusalem). Granted that legal codes in Christendom drew in part upon Biblical precedents, for example, Justinian's Code and the English common law, the Biblical precedents were not considered binding, but were used as examples. They also used classical Greco-Roman legal codes and Germanic customs, among other sources. If I recall correctly, the position of orthodox Judaism has been that the civil law of the Pentateuch is not binding on either Jew or Gentile until the return of the Messiah. It is a nearly universal position in both orthodox Christianity and Orthodox Judaism that the OT civil law is not applicable to any contemporary society.

The ceremonial law of Israel is what covers such areas as the Temple ritual, the dietary laws, circumcision, etc. Given the Christian position that Jesus Christ's substitutionary atonement is regarded as satisfying God's justice for the believers and will remit the punishment due for their sin, the elaborate rituals of the Old Law were rendered obsolete. Remember that the Judaizers were defeated in the early church at the church council in Jerusalem described in Acts 15. Romans 2:29 notes that circumcision is not of the flesh, but of the heart. Peter's vision in Acts 10 where he heard God stating that there were no unclean animals overrode the Old Testament dietary laws. There are numerous other examples. The position held by the Christian church since Apostolic days has been that the ceremonial law of the Old Testament are not applicable in the current age.

What has not been overturned in the current age and is applicable to all of mankind is the moral law. Most of its precepts are repeated in the New Testament and are affirmed by both Jesus and Paul. The one difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant is that we are not saved by the law, but by grace. As Ephesians 2:8-10 states: "For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves". The moral law is our guide to God's standards and is binding, but obedience thereto does not save.

[Accygirl]

I think that Mary Cheney and her partner raising a child is more beneficial to society than a nineteen-year-old living in a ghetto "raising" three children by three different daddies.

[Accygirl]

So, basically you think that the gays are going to make all the good god-fearing Conservative men divorce their wives and marry other men? Because otherwise I don't see how it's being "shoved" down our throats. Like all interest groups, gay people are advocating for what they want.

[tuesday afternoon]

Well, I'm an "anti-gay parent" poster, but I have 400 or so posts to go through yet. I usually try to read to the end before posting, but I thought you might like to know I'm out here.

[tuesday afternoon]

I agree with you.

[Mo1]

What's disgusting is that post you made