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Yes, Rudy Giuliani Is a Conservative
City Journal ^ | Jan.25, '07 | Steven Malanga

Posted on 01/30/2007 4:43:23 PM PST by T.L.Sink

Personally, I prefer Tancredo although I admire "America's Mayor," and this article sheds some light on Rudy's little known conservative and courageous accomplishments.


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To: Darkwolf377

And all those points ARE around and could be adversely affected by a bad USSC nomination - negating many gains made in the last six years.

Rudy ain't the man.


61 posted on 01/30/2007 5:17:29 PM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: ErnBatavia

He won't end up the nominee. The R's, if they have learned anything, will have a true conservative or as close to that as possible as a runner. Otherwise, they will have to get used to a Black Tuesday every November election.


62 posted on 01/30/2007 5:19:14 PM PST by Hambone02 (USAF AMMO IYAAYAS)
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To: T.L.Sink; Whosoever
"Conservative" is a title that progressives gave stealth progressives..
Both are socialists..

The socialists despise the "right wing".. always referred to as the extreme right wing.. or extremists.. The republican party has become the party of conservatives..

There is NO, ZERO organized right wing in the United States..
Brilliant Brain washing on a massive scale..
Are YOU a conservative?...

63 posted on 01/30/2007 5:20:10 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: jwalsh07
He's talking about the conservatism that's palpable in the boardroom. Can't please all of the people all of the time... where have you gone, Ronald Regan???
64 posted on 01/30/2007 5:20:23 PM PST by PatrickF4 (Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought. - JP II)
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To: Darkwolf377

Exactly.

The good thing about all this dissent and bellyaching is that the more bellyachers and critics he attracts, the more $ he will draw in and more support he will garner.


65 posted on 01/30/2007 5:20:33 PM PST by unsycophant
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To: CindyDawg

God helps those who help themselves. We will put a candidate in the running, and in office.


66 posted on 01/30/2007 5:21:28 PM PST by Hambone02 (USAF AMMO IYAAYAS)
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To: azhenfud
If we're going to nominate a real "Reagan Conservative" it's going to have to be done with a grass roots effort.

The GOP is too stuck on itself to ever go back to it's conservative roots without being forced (like with Harriet Miers).

So I've made a commitment to speak up and promote the man whom I believe is our best representative.

Duncan Hunter!

And it doesn't bother me when people say "Who?" or "He can't be elected."

Because he is STILL the best conservative we have available, IMHO.
67 posted on 01/30/2007 5:22:10 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: PatrickF4
The hildabeast in any position of real authority is your worst nightmare. Quantum levels worse than any alternative with an "R" associated with their name.

You may stand on principle but we will all get knocked down by the unprincipled.

Whatever it takes, defeat hillary in '08

68 posted on 01/30/2007 5:22:42 PM PST by pfflier
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To: CindyDawg
I just pray it isn't someone this country deserves.

I don't get it

69 posted on 01/30/2007 5:24:09 PM PST by pfflier
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To: airborne

I'd vote for Duncan in a Heart Beat....But someone is going to have to build his campaign real smart....and I just don't see that happening.


70 posted on 01/30/2007 5:25:12 PM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: pfflier

"The hard nosed purists that only test their candidates by the abortion issue can enable the hildabeast by opposing a candidate that can beat "it" purely on a one dimensional issue."

The abortion litmus test is exactly what makes the left wing so repulsive.

The thought that a "conservative" would sell out for the same reason is also disgraceful.

I will support ANYONE that the Republicans nominate be it Newt or Rudy or anyone in between.

THE ISSUE is the War on Islamic Terror and defeating the repulsive Psycho Whore from Chappaqua.


71 posted on 01/30/2007 5:25:19 PM PST by Doninnj
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To: TommyDale
"Why do the conservatives have to be the ones who must compromise?
Why can't the RINOs compromise?"

Maybe because they only compromise with their left wing friends.
72 posted on 01/30/2007 5:25:27 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: TommyDale; Darkwolf377

Feb. 5, 2008, may become Super-Duper Tuesday with, perhaps, Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma and Utah voting on the same day..


Think about that. That means the nominee won't just be able to go to IA and NH shake some hands and come from nowhere.

They will need an entire national ground game and close to 100 million to buy radio and TV ads within a year.

They have to make the ads ....hire thousands of people..pollsters...consultants...the logistacs in this time constrant are staggering.

There are 5-6 people in the country who can pull that off. Rudy,Romney,McCaine, Hillary and maybe Obama, Colin Powell,Edwards.

The rest of the pack is already toast.


73 posted on 01/30/2007 5:25:48 PM PST by Blackirish (David Dinkins:"Rudy as President is kind of frightening.My question will be, will I move to Bermuda")
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To: TommyDale
The RINOs have already compromised - with the Democrat's leftist social agenda. They believe that no one of importance really cares about those issues. If Rudy came out tomorrow as pro-life, and ready to oppose the homosexual juggernaut, I wouldn't believe him, it would not be a position he could take honestly.
74 posted on 01/30/2007 5:26:43 PM PST by PatrickF4 (Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought. - JP II)
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To: pfflier
"You may stand on principle but we will all get knocked down by the unprincipled."

Yup. The Duncan Hunter groupies are very much like the Democrats who think Dennis Kucinich can get elected. Responsible citizens realize in the big games, you play the big hitters, not the bench warmers. Activists, well, they're a different animal.
75 posted on 01/30/2007 5:26:55 PM PST by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: Darkwolf377
"Under Giuliani, the city gained some 430,000 new jobs to reach its all-time employment peak of 3.72 million jobs in 2000, while the unemployment rate plummeted from 10.3 to 5.1 percent."

I guess we then have to give Clinton credit for the budget surplus then? When Rudy left office what was the deficit? Bill Clintoon was as amazing as Rudy was.

$2-billion deficit and a $42-billion debt.?

This guy is amazing. St. Rudy!

76 posted on 01/30/2007 5:27:05 PM PST by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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To: T.L.Sink
If the New York Times hates him that is good enough for me.I think many people should recognize that not all of us Conservative grew up in small town evangelical environments and not all of us had guns or care to have them. Most of us Urban Conservatives don't really care about these issues. In fact many of the Conservatives I know around me are actually pro-choice. We generally keep it quiet here, because as I say it is not a major issue. We would rather see the party win which is more important. But, now that we see us losing ground outside of small town America and the South we can be flexible the other way. But, we still remember that we have to live with our small town allies (whom we usually agree with) and cooperate accordingly to achieve our most important goals.
77 posted on 01/30/2007 5:27:12 PM PST by bilhosty (to hell with ABCNNBCBS)
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To: PatrickF4

You are correct. I realized that as soon as I posted my comment. The RINO liberal GOP has already compromised all moral principles. They are no different than Democrats.


78 posted on 01/30/2007 5:29:09 PM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: T.L.Sink
Yes, Rudy Giuliani Is a Conservative



I guess that all depends what the definition of conservative "is".
79 posted on 01/30/2007 5:29:18 PM PST by WKB (A wasted day is a day in which we have not laughed!)
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To: Darkwolf377
Conservative doesn't necessarily mean Religious Conservative.

Would you call Reagan a religious conservative? I want a Reaganite, not a reversion to pre-Reagan Republicanism.

80 posted on 01/30/2007 5:30:24 PM PST by freedomdefender
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