Skip to comments.Schwarzenegger Urges Residents in Path of Flames to Flee as Fire Roars in Three Directions
Posted on 08/30/2009 1:48:13 PM PDT by kellynla
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger today urged residents in fire evacuation zones to flee as firefighters predicted another difficult day battling a wildfire that has burned 35,000 acres and threatened more than 12,000 homes from Acton to Altadena.
Schwarzenegger noted at a morning press conference that three residents in Big Tujunga Canyon suffered serious burns trying in vain to save their homes Saturday.
"There will be people who don't listen," the governor said at the fire command post in Lake View Terrace. ". . . Move as soon as [firefighters] say to move."
Although thousands of homes are covered in the evacuation orders, many residents have stayed behind, with some vowing to fight to protect their homes from the Station fire.
The fire line now extends about 19 miles east to west. The governor and other elected officials praised firefighters for successfully protecting subdivisions in the foothills.
With temperatures expected to reach the mid- to high 90s today in the fire areas, officials said they were anticipating extreme fire conditions, mirroring Saturdays, when flames leapt as high as 80 feet and spread at a rate of about 2.5 miles an hour.
More than 2,000 fire personnel now are deployed fighting the Station fire.
In the Acton area, mandatory evacuations have been ordered along the 14 Freeway from Soledad Canyon Road to Crown Valley Road and along Aliso Canyon Road from Soledad Canyon Road to Angeles Forest Highway.
The California Highway Patrol has also closed the onramps and offramps to the 14 Freeway at Soledad Canyon Road, Agua Dulce, Escondido Canyon Road, Red Rover Mine Road and Crown Valley Road. They said they were concerned that fire behavior in the area could become extreme as they were expecting the wind to shift about 10 a.m.
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Los Angeles area fire map: La Cañada Flintridge, Altadena, Glendale, La Crescenta, Pasadena, Acton
—relax, folks—Gaia is just getting it prepared for mudslides when the rains come-—
Arnold’s “Go green!” attitude comes in reality to mean “Burn baby burn!”, for the “environmental” forest management policies leave humans exposed to more risk of harm. Humans first, Arnold.
Save us your lame jokes...
There is nothing funny about what is happening.
Thousands of Firefighters are putting their lives on the line trying to save tens of thousands of homes.
Here we go again.
Fire scorching homes built where they never should have been built in the first place. The CA ecosystem has been based on periodic brush clearing by fire for thousands of years. Man has interrupted that cycle, and now they are paying for it. I read that there had not been a fire in this area for nearly 50 years and that the underbrush had not been cleared in that time.
If you want to avoid this in the future, they need to implement strict building codes:
Brush clearing — nobody should be allowed to let their property be overgrown.
Fire retardent roofs — cement tile, metal, etc. Rigorously enforce this. Remove all wood shingle roofs.
Build multiple access roads — more than one way out of all areas.
Reduce crowding — tear down buildings too close to their neighbors’. Increase lot sizes.
Fire breaks between subdivisions must be kept cleared — open space with no vegetation.
Reservoirs for water storage.
I know that sounds harsh, and implementation will mean that many people currently living in these areas will have to move; but it must be done, or we will see this pattern repeated.
In the mean time, I feel terrible for those who are losing their houses, pets, and perhaps their lives.
Up, down...and sideways.
So you’re going to let the government dictate what everyone can do with their property? How about letting them just take their chances, they know where they are building, if their houses burn down, tuff.
Hm... I seem to remember something from some text... something about a promise of “The fire next time.”
“.....we got riots, fires, and mudslides. We got sushi in the mall!....”
-- when you Commiefornians get smart enough to not build homes on unstable material, and to elect politicians who will allow you to clear brush from near your expensive homes, I won't be able to make jokes about it---
well you almost have it right. there will be the inevitable bailout coming.
—thanks—have fun in anger management class—
Re: “Schwarzenegger Urges Illegals to get in Path of Flames as Fire Roars in Three Directions.
well,i can hope,cant i?”
Yes, you can always have hope, but most illegals would not be affected by these fires unless someone burns down the L.A. basin itself and San Fernando Valley ‘floor’ where there is rarely anything more than a one-house fire. The big wildfires are always in the hilly areas where generally most residents are not illegals.
Get your wallets out, folks!
oh, and you don’t EVER have any natural disaster in Wisconsin now do ya.............
shezzzzzzzzzzzzz... WI geniuses... try MYOB...
Yea, well I’ve had my wallet out since your boy became POTUS.
No forest management would have made a difference in these fires.
Ain’t my boy.
Afraidfortherepublic, you do know that current California law DOESN’T ALLOW people to clear their property, right?
Aside from that, I’m really disgusted with everybody on this thread who is cheering on the loss of homes and lives in this fire. Yes, things could be changed; but how would you feel if everything you had was going up in flames and people from across the country were cheering? Or if you were a firefighter engulfed in flames and you knew everybody thought this agony was something you deserved for living in California?
And as for illegals, wiggen, I hope when we all have to flee to Costa Rica after Obama cracks down on us, that you will relish our death by fire as much as you are wishing it on others.
Get a grip, folks
George Bush didn’t come from TX
the only part of me fleeing to Costa Rica will be my corpse.
I’m with you.
It is odd how people laugh at the misfortunes of others. Reminds me of an older time, before the advent of Christ, before man “evolved.” As the Roman poet Lucretius said:
“Pleasant it is, when over a great sea the winds trouble the waters, to gaze from shore upon another’s great tribulation.”
I thought we were better than that now.
Then again, we did elect Obama, so...
Just goes to show their “don't give a damn about anyone but themselves.”
Will the media blame Obama for this, just like they blamed Bush for Katrina?
All of you who are anywhere near this monster:
Be careful and stay safe. You are in our thoughts and prayers.
“we did elect Obama?”
Will they want your corpse there?
I know it sounds tough, but you have to understand the CA ecosystem. Building in those canyons and failing to clear the underbrush is a recipe for disaster. Probably all the residents should be bought out and the entire area be declared State Forest. Building in the canyons (with shoddy construction in some cases) is akin to building on the beach at low tide and then complaining when the waves come flooding back and knock your house off it's foundation! When its acreas and acres of forest that burns, you just let it go and it finally burns itself out. No lives and dwellings are lost.
When lives and real property get involved, of course people demand that other people put their lives in danger to "save" them and their property. Why should we risk our lives and our fortunes to save people who built where they don't belong?
How many fire fighters will be lost in this fire, or have their health severely damaged? How many tax dollars will be spent? I know that sounds harsh, but if you understond California's ecohistory, you'd understand that building in those canyons is similar to building on the slopes of a volcano and then asking to be saved when it erupts.
It's an uncomfortable choice, but possible one that has to be made. Years ago, the only people who lived in those canyons were hermits, gold miners, or seasonal vacationers, etc. Now, there are thousands of homes which makes it a tinder box. Nobody wants to clear their brush because it's "charming".
Well, don't ask my husband or son to risk their lives rescuing you. And don't ask me to pay for fire fighters and their equipment to put out a fire that may have been started by your B-B-Q grill!. And if your ill placed house feeds a fire that threatens my house in town and damages my lungs because your fire has polluted the air I breathe, I'm not going to be very happy.
Please, all California residents, forgive me for speaking the truth. I'm a native of your state, the descendent of pioneers of your state, and it saddens my heart to see what greed, overpopulation, and overbuilding has done to the once-beautiful state of my youth every time I return on family business.
I live in California-Tuolumne county. We have to clear our property, and the fire department patrols and checks. I live in the mountains.
“Come with me if you want to live.”
I don't know what brings this out in people. It's ugly, but it seems to be part of human nature. I hope that none of the people saying those ugly things consider themselves Christian, because I really can't imagine those remarks coming from the mouth of a Christian.
Then stay away.
I second this. Amen.
so basically you’re saying it really is because they have disobeyed Mother Gaia.
I'm a logical man, I know humans can protect their property from most ravages of nature, if allowed to.
Here's one example of tying Humanity to the burning pole:
Taking advantage of a provision allowing states to make recommendations regarding the managment of their national forests, on July 12, 2006 Gov. Schwarzenegger petitioned the federal government to protect 100 percent of Californias roadless forests. http://www.environmentcalifornia.org/wild-forests
Men can build anywhere. We are men, not animals.
no, actually those that live in the Canyons and dangerous fire areas are not allowed to clear brush around there house.
It has gotten so extreme one freeper was on here during the lake arrowhead fire a few years ago explaining how he had a DEAD pine tree near his drive way not far from his house on his own property and he could not take it down without permits. in order to get a permit a ranger (or some bureaucrat) had to inspect the tree which can take up to 4 years.
Didn’t we just get this story last year or was it earlier this year. Honestly I’m sick of hearing about California Fires. It’s not a news story anymore. It would be a story if we didn’t have fires. Most but not all of these destructive fires are as a result of stupidity. That’s the stupidity of poor forest management, poor planning, environmentalist run amok etc.
That’s amazing to me. I live in the mountains in northern California. If we don’t clear our brush etc. we get a ticket, or have it cleared for us and then have to pay for it. The fire departments patrol in the spring and early summer.
yes that is how it should be. but it isn’t around here.
Post #7 well said.
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