Yes. Next question.
Posted on 10/28/2009 3:30:54 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey
What drives these fringe crazed people on all sides of the aisle?
Is it that feeling that something is just, not quite right? Is it the nagging question of why would someone continue to hide something in order to antagonize those that are trying to hold him accountable for the transparency that he promised? Or are you just tired of Obama getting away with it?
A great conspiracy started during the 2008 Election Primary by a Hillary Clinton supporting Liberal lawyer from Philadelphia (Philip Berg) who saw that Obama was about to beat Hillary to the nomination and so he filed a lawsuit to challenge the legitimacy of Obama based on his unproven but stated place of birth as Honolulu HI.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/28/lawsuit-questions-obamas-eligibility-for-office
Just prior to this lawsuit the NY Times dedicated some ink to investigate whether the Republican Nominee (John McCain) was constitutionally eligible because he was born on a military base in the Panama Canal Zone.
(http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html)
Later more lawsuits would be filed and more animated people would become attached to the cause of uncovering Obama’s vault copy birth certificate, the latest being Orly Taitz an attorney that has represented military members who claim they will not follow deployment orders until Obama produces a valid Birth Certificate and proves he is a natural born citizen. As time magazines 2 min bio indicates Orly is quite a character.
(http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1915285,00.html)
World Net Daily senior staff reporter and best-selling author Jerome Corsi is dedicated to uncovering everything about Obama but has failed to reveal the long version birth certificate.
Obama’s campaign did pay money for legal support regarding the efforts to keep his Birth Certificate sealed as well as school records and transcripts and the only document that it has released to date, was a Certificate of Live Birth, which is not the same as a vault copy Birth Certificate and so this just adds fuel to the conspiracy fire.
Even non-birthers have certainly asked the simple question, why hide it? It may be politically expedient for him to keep this drama going in order to stir up his base by having the specter of a fringe movement fighting him over this issue, who knows? The simple thing would be to allow the release of all records, birth, school, etc, and have done with it, especially after claiming to be the most transparent of all Presidents.
So the question is how do we get Obama to happily release his vault copy birth certificate? This is how do we end this conspiracy once and for all and believe it or not this is a bi-partisan simple solution and everyone can actually feel good about doing it.
Now I am not tech savvy so I can’t do this but many on this forum are. Start a not for profit website that solicits donations to made to the Kapiolani Children’s hospital in Honolulu HI, (this is the supposed birth hospital of Obama). The hospital is a not for profit and certainly needs the help
(http://www.kapiolanigift.org/how_to_give.aspx?id=1560).
The donation will be made in the name of the Doctor that witnessed his birth. That doctors name as proven and documented on the long form version of his vault copy Birth Certificate. The reason we are recognizing the Doctor is due to the significance of Obama’s birth it is historic in that the Doctor brought forth into the world the first US President from the state of Hawaii, the first black President and the first sitting President to receive the Nobel Peace Prize after just 9 months in office. So all people can certainly agree that recognition is required and what better way then to help out the kids of Kapiolani, so that they too one day may grow up to be the President of the USA, hopefully with a Conservative ideology, but I digress.
The website would go viral as the donations built up, advertised on facebook, twitter, blogs, and websites, certainly it would amass over a million dollars at that point the media would not be able to ignore and especially if the President hesitated to release or authorize the release of such a simple thing as his vault version BC to validate the name of the doctor that the donation was being made in. Politically he could not withstand the pressure and selfish reasons won't work.
I got $100 to donate as soon as the site is up and running, I know you can donate a little bit too, right?
We now have a POtuS about whom we do not know:
1. Grade School records
2. High School records
3. Occidental College records
4. Columbia University records
5. Columbia thesis
6. Harvard Law School records
7. Harvard Law Review articles
8. Articles from the University of Chicago
9. Passport History
10. Medical records
11. Files from his years as an Illinois state senator
12. Illinois State Bar Association records
13. Baptism records
14. Adoption records.
15. Place of birth.
I saw W’s dental charts from the ANG in Alabama, when they were questioning EVERYTHING and not only turning over every rock, but planting the rocks to be overturned.
WTF America?
Ping.
So what do you think of the idea to uncover the truth?
“So what do you think of the idea to uncover the truth?”
Gud’n...
Marxism is on the march in the United States. If you want your children and grandchildren to live under it do nothing. Otherwise, get off of your dead behinds and join the fight. Get your friends and neighbors AWARE of what is going on. I am constantly amazed by how little my supposed ‘intelligent’ friends know or seem to care about the events going on in Washington. Time is rapidly running out. Ask not for whom the bell tolls...it tolls for YOU!
The truth has already been uncovered, and what you are seeing is everyone trying to cover it back up.
I always said if a price was put on it some one would finally find a way of revealing it. Don’t you think if there were a pot of 20 million or more waiting to be claimed that someone at that health unit would steal that damn thing?
You forgot his selective service records.
I'm not asserting it's true. So don't shoot the messenger.
Thats fine if its true but we really want to see what he is hiding on that Long version Birth cert now dont we? So lets get the website up donations flowing and call him out make him prove to us by releasing the thing.
Money talks...
WHO AM I?
I was born in one country, raised in another.. My father was born in another country. I was not his only child. He fathered several children with numerous women.
I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in me. My mother died at an early age from cancer.
Later in life, questions arose over my real name.
My birth records were sketchy and no one was able to produce a legitimate, reliable birth certificate.
I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was widely accepted in my country, but I practiced non-traditional beliefs & didn’t follow christianity, except in the public eye under scrutiny.
I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, disguising myself as someone who really cared about them.
That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and I embarked on a new career.
I wrote a book about my strugges growing up. It was clear to those who read my memoirs that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a child.
I became active in local politics in my 30’s then with help behind the scenes, I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office in my 40s. They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything. That reinforced my conceit.
I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history and no experience in leading a single organization. Yet I was a powerful speaker and citizens were drawn to me as though I were a magnet and they were small roofing tacks.
I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances. This bolstered my ego. At first, my political campaign focused on my country’s foreign policy. I was very critical of my country in the last war and seized every opportunity to bash my country.
But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the country’s economy. I pretended to have a really good plan on how we could do better and every poor person would be fed & housed for free.
I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess. It was the free market, banks & corporations. I decided to start making citizens hate them and if they were envious of others who did well, the plan was clinched tight.
I called mine “A People’s Campaign” and that sounded good to all people.
I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the traditional path of politics & was able to gain widespread popular support.
I knew that, if I merely offered the people ‘hope’ , together we could change our country and the world.
So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include “persecuted minorities” like the Jews. My true views were not widely known & I needed to keep them unknown, until after I became my nation’s leader.
I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found out what I really believed, if they had simply read my writings and examined these people I associated with.
I’m glad they didn’t. Then I became the most powerful man in the world. And the world learned the truth.
Who am I? .........
ADOLPH HITLER!
Who did you think I was talking about?
Well, I want to see his kindergarten records. I want to see what kind of pictures he drew and colored. What if he is a muslim and drew picures of Mohammed? Or Karl Marx? I want to see those drawings because if he is drawing grass huts and giraffes, that is proof he was born and raised in Kenya.
parsy, who these are the real records we should be after
Let me guess.. records have him flying out to Mombasa
to deliver The One?
Thats true but this way its different. You get a not for profit and everyone wins forces his hand basically we are calling his bluff he will have to show his cards....
What I wonder is how long he could hold out and the best part is he can’t change the history of his words he said he was born there so if there is no name as witness which could be true if grandparents filed while Stanley was still in Kenya and claimed birth by a midwife but that still won’t cut it because he has not come forth with that info...
Doctor West retired from Obstetrics years before Obama was born so that whacky women from Buffalo spewed buffaloed droppings.
None of which are required by the Constitution to establish eligibility. In fact his COLB establishes his NBC status and the correct age, the only requirements established by same.
AFTER-birthers are on the way staying late at the DOJ tonight.
The single most important fact in this debate is that Obamao could release the information to settle it with a phone call, and he won’t do it. Obamao is hiding something. If it isn’t the Kenyan birth his grandmother remembers, then it is something else. If we had a real media, Obamao would be the one getting pressured to come clean, instead of media energies being wasted on insulting the people who want to know the truth of the matter.
Hey Rush has 20 million listeners. Run it by him. Perhaps he can elaborate and come up with an idea. The common denominator here that we agree on is money. All that is left is how much and how to set it up that will be absolutely irresistible!
Do you really expect Freepers to believe you aren't working your mentally challenged brain to cover for someone you worship as pres_ _ent? And you're doing it by insulting and ridiculing freepers with crap like that post. What a disgusting slug you show yourself to be.
[That is your cue to play immature games as if you were serious, you 'really want' to see his artwork from kindergarten, as if he would remember ever being in Kenya as a child. You disgusting slug! That his are the only files missing from that kindergarten's files for that year is irrelevant to slugslime sycophants like you.]
Pass it to Beck or Orly...Someone with legal knowledge may have some ideas.
Mordor rules.
Get all your gaped tooth after birthers over here, quick, Buckeye. Jump in Buckeye’s wagon and come on down!
Our records show that Dr. Rodney T. West was Chief of Staff at Kapiolani Hospital in 1953. He was certified by the American Board of Obstetrics & Gynecology in 1958 and practiced at The Straub Clinic and Hospital until his retirement in December 1977.
Thank you for your interest.
The Queens Medical Center
Mamiya Medical Heritage Center
The Straub Clinic eventually merged with Kapi’olani Maternity Hospital. Do the research.
Thank you! I thought I was losing my touch.
parsy, who does sincerely apologize for coming off arrogant
“I always said if a price was put on it some one would finally find a way of revealing it. Don’t you think if there were a pot of 20 million or more waiting to be claimed that someone at that health unit would steal that damn thing?”
And millions offered for Bin Laden...what good did that do?
Nope.
parsy
Good one. Thanks.
Bull.
Obama was not born in Hawaii and Doctor West certainly did not deliver the Kenyan:
"Rodney West, M.D.
Naval Reserve
Rodney T. West, M.D. was born on the island of Maui in the then Territory of Hawaii. He graduated from the Punahou School in Honolulu and attended Northwestern University in Chicago, where he earned his Medical Degree. He returned to the Islands, spent 18 months as an intern and resident at the Queen's Hospital and then went into a private practice in Honolulu. He joined the United States Naval Reserve in January of 1940.
Twenty months later, September 5, 1941, he was called to active duty and was stationed at the Medical Dispensary on Ford Island in Pearl Harbor and was there on the morning of December 7, l941. He spent the rest of World War II on Johnston Island in the Pacific and at various Naval Air Stations on the American mainland. At the end of the war, he returned to Honolulu and on March 26, 1946 was discharged from active duty. In September of 1949, he resigned from the Naval Reserve as a full Commander. Then, after practicing on the Big Island of Hawaii for a year, he returned to Honolulu and joined the Obstetrics and Gynecological department of the Straub Clinic.
In December of l956, after delivering at least 5,000 babies - and other things, he retired from the practice of medicine. In l963, he served as the President of the Hawaii Medical Association and in 1975, he helped found and was the first president of the American College of Physician Executives...."
http://www.pearlharborstories.org/survivorpage.php?name=Rodney+West,%20M.D.&id=767
Wagner’s spelling of Parsifal instead of the Parzival he had used up to 1877 is informed by an erroneous etymology of the name Percival deriving it from a supposedly Arabic origin, Fal Parsi meaning “pure fool”.
Get all your birther/vetter sheeple over here quick, Sara. Jump on the crazy train and ride the paranoia!
What’s the purpose of your sad commentary? Why do you insist on making a mockery of FR? Why do you persist in personal attacks against FR policy? Are you trying to run the credibility of FR into the ground?
Good catch. If you do a little more research into certain Welsh legends you may uncover other definitions, too.
parsy, who has been parsifal for years
And what if i am????
parsy, who says craziness is arbitrary
You think The One, The Messiah, gives a Rat's Ash about the kids who could be helped at that hospital? I don't. He threw his "typical white" grandmother under the bus, and his "G-D D@** America" black pastor too. He'll not have any problem doing the same to those kids.
But if he did care about them, he'd just get Lonesome George Soros to lay a few Euros on them.
Yes. Next question.
This is all a distraction.
It is a fact that his father was not a US Citizen and therefore by definition (backed by 4 Supreme Court decisions) that he is not a “natural born citizen” as the US Constitution says.
Also in over 30 attempts during the last 200 years our elected officials have attempted to change the definition of “natural born citizen” but it has never surfaced out of committee.
All the media plays along because they either have 1 of 2 views or both:
1) The population elected him so let it go
2) It would cause too much damage to remove him.
Well I would contend that if the truth was allowed to see the light of day during the campaign #1 would have never happened.
And if we keep on the course we are going we are going to lose our country and our property to either some whacked government here or foreign. We have increased our money supply 120% in the last two years...in the 70’s Carter increased the money supply 13% and to recapture interest rates soared to 20% - What interest rate will we need to fix this problem?
The way I see it...if we do not stop this train wreck very soon our country will be lost for good...at least as we know it. People including the media very soon will have to choose what side of history to be on. But remember one thing...whomever wins this great battle you can never forget who the enemy was and is.
To: mlo; Non-Sequitur; parsifal; Pilsner; Drew68; curiosity; Sibre Fan; El Sordo; MilspecRob; ...
Ping to Orly Taitz whack-a-mole thread!
31 posted on Sunday, October 18, 2009 3:09:25 PM by BuckeyeTexan
Parsey doen't know many Muslims, does he?
They tend to bomb, burn and loot if anyone draws a picture of old Mo. There are no pictures of Mo, or anyone else, in any Mosque. Graven Images and all that. It's why the Taliban blew up those ancient Budda Statues.
If LucyT can ping. I can ping. Get over it.
Wagner’s spelling of Parsifal instead of the Parzival he had used up to 1877 is informed by an erroneous etymology of the name Percival deriving it from a supposedly Arabic origin, Fal Parsi meaning “pure fool”.
It’s not the pings, slug, it’s the stated purpose which exposes your deceit here. You still try to claim you’re so ‘sincere’.
“Parsey doen’t know many Muslims, does he?”
I wouldn’t bet on that...at best, this is a psychotic little twerp who gets his rocks off annoying people...
damn you didn’t even say anything about helping the kids out...
In December of l956, after delivering at least 5,000 babies - and other things, he retired from the practice of medicine.
He retired at the age of 46?..... He was born in 1910.
From another article: I don’t it’s veracity either so I’m not purporting to be the truth.
http://honoluluprepares.com/author.html
After his return to the Islands, Dr. West spent doctors who had not had a vacation for the duration of the war, and served on the Big Island as plantation doctor at Ola`a Sugar Plantation (Kea`au). In June of 1949 he was asked to join the Obstetrics and Gynecology Department of The Clinic (now Straub Clinic & Hospital), and returned to Honolulu practice. Over the years, he delivered more than 5000 babies, usually at Kapi`olani Maternity Hospital, personallly chronicling their vital statistics in bound ledgers. Nearing the end of his practice, Dr. West took on the role of medical director, Straub Clinic’s first, before retiring at 65 years of age in December of 1975.
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