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You can love Palin without wanting her to be president (Journolist Alert)
Politico ^ | 8/30/10 | Journolist Liberal Ben Smith, pissant's latest hero

Posted on 08/30/2010 9:55:57 AM PDT by pissant

A new 60 Minutes/Vanity Fair poll offers what is, I think, a somewhat misleading way to look at Sarah Palin.

The poll finds that 59% of Americans and 40% of Republicans don't think she'd make an "effective president" -- numbers that come very close to disqualifying her even in the primary, if she chooses to run.

This trouble imagining President Palin is constant across the polling since soon after she was chosen as John McCain's running mate, and it reflects both her own lack of experience and the higher bar set for a woman -- Hillary Clinton did years of carefully projecting the kind of strength Mark Penn thought she needed to show to be a plausible contender. (Holmes and Traister think there's now space for a Palin on the left, but the poll numbers suggest otherwise to me.)

In any case, however, it's possible to adore and follow a political leader without wanting him or her to be President of the United States, or even thinking he or she is qualified. The most frequently drawn parallel with Palin is Jesse Jackson -- popular and respected on much of the left for a time, at least, seen as presidential by smaller numbers.

But the Daily Show's Jon Stewart may be a better example.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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To: Nervous Tick; Daisyjane69; pissant
I could have sworn that, a few weeks back, you promised Jim you were going to knock this crap off.

He did, but his promises are meaningless, just like the _resident's.

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DAISYJANE69 WROTE ON A SIMILAR THREAD

The Hillbuzz guys (those 5 gay Hillary guys that turned on the Dems in ‘08, after the Obama shenanigans, and campaigned for McCain/Palin) went to the rally Saturday. I’m going to excerpt one of their essays (there will be 5 more on the rally, as they were there to report back):

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As we were leaving the Lincoln Memorial area, and walking up 23rd street near some State Department buildings, we spotted two black African vendors, selling buttons, pins, and tee shirts to the Mississippi-grade river of people leaving the million-strong event.

The vendors had plenty of Palin 2012 materials, and they were selling as fast as the pair could hand them out to people.

They were shouting, as loud as they could, “Get your Sarah Palin buttons! We have Sarah Palin butons for 2012! Get your Sarah Palin shirts! Sarah Palin will be the next president! Get her buttons now!”.

In their accented voices, in all sincerity, they were stating something we believe is clear FACT: that Sarah Palin will be our next president, and that people in the merchandising world realize this.

It’s what we noticed the moment we landed in DC and walked through the concourse at Reagan National: the shops selling political items treat Sarah Palin as if she is already president. On the shelves, these stores have small bobble-head dolls of presidents from the past: Washington, Lincoln, Kennedy, etc. Obama is up there too. And right next to him is Sarah Palin, in either a red jacket or the black outfit she wore when she spoke in Dayton, Ohio on August 29th, 2008.

We don’t remember the merchandising world treating Hillary Clinton with this certainty back in 2006. We saw plenty of Obama materials, but nothing for Secretary Clinton that early. Even in the heat of the campaign, there was never as much Hillary merchandise…as if the people who make, produce, purchase, and distribute this stuff didn’t believe it had a shelf life long enough to produce so much of it.

With Sarah Palin, there is an enormous amount of merchandise out there, geared both towards people who love her and the Left who wants to buy things to mock her (like the Hillary Clinton nutcrackers that were made to appeal to those on the Right who still are afflicted with Clinton Derangement Syndrome).

We have a good friend who is a buyer for a major department store. She says that trends are followed closely in the merchandising industry, with prognasticators looking far into the future to determine what consumers are going to want not today, or tomorrow, but far enough into the future for companies to get rich cornering a market on something the public will have an insatiable desire for.

People, these trend-followers, who earn enormous salaries for being RIGHT about what American popular culture is going to look like in the years ahead, have identified Sarah Palin as a source of immense merchandising revenue.

They are treating Governor Palin as a viable, lasting brand and retailers are placing her alongside the current and past presidents as an equal on par with them. The Palin bobbleheads are not displayed next to the Michelle Obama or Ben Franlin ones, which were the only two non-presidential dolls we spotted (there were no Hillary ones, and no Bill Clinton ones either, but there were dolls of Franklin Roosevelt standing that were unrecognizable because we never picture FDR that way).

Since Governor Palin is not a current or former US President, and is just a private citizen now, she should rightly be grouped with Franklin and Michelle Antoinette, if retailers were grouping these dolls as presidents on one shelf, and other politically-realmed figures on another.

It just looks RIGHT for Governor Palins’ dolls to be up there with the “president” ones.

That’s where customers appear to look for her, so that’s where retailers place her.

It is all part of the larger fact that, culturally, America is indeed trending towards accepting the reality that Governor Palin will indeed by our 45th president, elected in 2012.

"You betcha.”

Entire piece at LINK


41 posted on 08/30/2010 10:20:15 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: mnehring
You post far more articles about Palin than them put together.

Blatantly inaccurate. DO a keyword search 'Palin' to see just how wrong you are. Here: http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/palin/index?tab=articles

42 posted on 08/30/2010 10:20:28 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

And just how is Duncan Hunter doing these days pissant? Still not as popular as Palin? Too bad.
Maybe if you post another 1500 or so anti-Palin articles you may just be able to chip away half a percent from her numbers. Good luck on that. But wouldn’t life be much more pleasant if you chose to attack the Leftist that are in power, not the conservatives that are speaking out against them?


43 posted on 08/30/2010 10:20:55 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: pissant
LOL. Better question is can you marginally like her and not be a deemed a hater, troll, DUer, or enemy of the Republic?

All available evidence says "no." In the black-and-white world of some, one either Loves or Hates Sarah Palin.

It's amusing to note that the same emotional dynamic applies among the supporters of Barack Obama...

44 posted on 08/30/2010 10:21:00 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: glorgau

LOL. That’s a good response.


45 posted on 08/30/2010 10:21:40 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Then what do all the worshiping cultists here telling you and everyone else that “Only Sarah” is good enough to be POTUS in 2012.


You are dishonest or deluded.

Please provide the links to all the posts that suggested no one else is good enough.

She may presently be my own first choice, but if Michelle Bachman or Jim DeMint could show her level of effectiveness, I’ll be ready to applaud their success in gaining the nomination.


46 posted on 08/30/2010 10:22:28 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Congressmen should serve two terms: One in Congress and one in prison.)
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To: pissant

47 posted on 08/30/2010 10:22:36 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: ansel12

What she is doing now is so much better than POTUS.

She is getting conservative (Other than mcCain) people elected and moving the movement forward.

If she runs for POTUS, she won’t be able to do anyof this and will be nitpicked even more to death.

Look, if she runs, i will support her $$$ wise, time, energy, etc, but my personal belief is that she is more effective doing what she is doing now.

Additionally, i like her family very much and really don’t want to see the ugly nasty stuff I know she would be subjected to.


48 posted on 08/30/2010 10:22:54 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: pissant

Before you were scolded by the big dog several weeks ago, I posted the same search category list and you had 60% of the Palin articles on the first page listing. In one day you posted five or six articles alone on her.


49 posted on 08/30/2010 10:23:49 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: dirtboy

Get a grip. How many dozens of MSM (left wing trash) articles are posted here each day?

Yeah. A guy that has taken the time and effort to get actual conservative politicians to come onto FR really doesn’t care about it.


50 posted on 08/30/2010 10:24:02 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Larry Lucido
....what were Duncan Hunter’s “numbers” before he thought about running?

Not sure, but here's how he did after he threw his chapeau into the ring:

January 3, 2008: Iowa

Rebublican Caucus Results: Mike Huckabee 34.3%, Mitt Romney 25.3%, Fred Thompson 13.4%, John McCain 13.1%, Ron Paul 10.0%, Rudy Giuliani 3.5%, Duncan Hunter 0.4%

January 8, 2008: New Hampshire

Rebublican Primary Results: John McCain 37.2%, Mitt Romney 31.6%, Mike Huckabee 11.2%, Rudy Giuliani 8.6%, Ron Paul 7.6%, Fred Thompson 1.2%, Duncan Hunter 0.5%

January 15, 2008: Michigan

Rebublican Primary Results: Mitt Romney 38.9%, John McCain 29.7%, Mike Huckabee 16.1%, Ron Paul 6.3%, Fred Thompson 3.7%, Rudy Giuliani 2.8%, Duncan Hunter 0.3%

January 19, 2008: South Carolina

Republican Primary Results: John McCain 33.2%, Mike Huckabee 29.9%, Fred Thompson 15.7%, Mitt Romney 15.1%, Ron Paul 3.7%, Rudy Giuliani 2.1%, Duncan Hunter 0.2%

Nevada

Rebublican Caucus Results: Mitt Romney 51.1%, Ron Paul 13.7%, John McCain 12.7%, Mike Huckabee 8.2%, Fred Thompson 7.9%, Rudy Giuliani 4.3%, Duncan Hunter 2.0%

January 29, 2008: Florida

Rebublican Primary Results: John McCain 36%, Mitt Romney 31.1%, Rudy Giuliani 14.6%, Mike Huckabee 13.5%, Ron Paul 3.2%, Fred Thompson 1.2%, Duncan Hunter 0.1%

January 30, 2008: Hunter drops out, or if you prefer, he quit.

51 posted on 08/30/2010 10:24:55 AM PDT by jla (Have you used Rosetta Stone language method? Please Freepmail me.)
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To: mnehring

One day. How many breathless pro-palin articles have been posted in the last 2?


52 posted on 08/30/2010 10:25:10 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nice!

But your making pissant’s head explode


53 posted on 08/30/2010 10:25:22 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: pissant

54 posted on 08/30/2010 10:26:05 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Beelzebubba

Cool! I like your thinking.

I’ll report back to you with the “no one else is good enough” quotes.


55 posted on 08/30/2010 10:28:00 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

56 posted on 08/30/2010 10:29:11 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: onyx
Mrs. 2ndDivisionVet is the manager of a department store optical shop (Rhymes with Deers-Fauxduck) here on the coast and she still gets requests for "Sarah Palin-style" glasses on a nearly daily basis. Even from women that you know didn't vote for her last time and a surprising number of ethnic individuals.
57 posted on 08/30/2010 10:29:33 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I don't need a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber.)
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To: pissant

These side-show barkers, who constantly hawk this elixir that Sarah Palin is not up to the challenge, have drunk their own tonic! They haven’t yet presented a credible argument against her. If you’re looking for perfect, Jesus isn’t running!


58 posted on 08/30/2010 10:30:43 AM PDT by old school
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why does she have a picture of Dirk Nowitzki in that picture?


59 posted on 08/30/2010 10:30:51 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: pissant

You are a sexist coward and a waste of space.


60 posted on 08/30/2010 10:32:13 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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