Posted on 02/23/2011 11:37:59 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
According to Wikipedia, 1 baht of gold is 0.4729523 troy ounces, so that would be about $10,500 of gold, plus about $5200 in cash. (Oddly the baht is both a weight and a currency. I guess that's like the UK pound.)
“You’re making the mistake of assuming these people are Christians. They may very well not be.”
No one knows who is in heaven for sure. Except for perhaps Seth, Enoch, Moses, Elijah, and Lazarus. The thief on the cross. Perhaps I have forgotten a handful.
The point is, the fact that Abraham, David, and Solomon sinned in this way doesn’t mean it is ok for us to do it.
They did a lot of other recorded sins, too, and we can’t copy those, either.
Like I said, you’re making the mistake of thinking these people are Christians. So they’re probably not too worried about how the God of Abraham defines sin.
They also lived in an era when God's children wanted to approach Him, they were required to a) go through a priest and b) to offer animal and/or grain sacrifices, among other burdensome restrictions. That law has been obsolete for over 2000 years. We are no longer under the old law. We're under the New Law, and to have multiple simultaneous living marriage partners is sinful.
But since you brought up the patriarchs and monarchs, for future reference, polygamy/concubines (also accepted) didn't work out for them, either.
Abraham, for example, because of the jealousy of Sarah, cast out Hagar and (his first born son) Ishmael. The irony was that Sarah was the one who gave him Hagar in the first place.
Solomon had 1000 wives and 700 concubines. Polygamy didn't work out for him, either. Read Ecclesiastes. It's a book written by someone who evidently struggled with clinical depression.
And David? This Psalm, written by David, is acknowledged by some of the greatest Bible scholars as his lament over his having contracted sexually transmitted diseases.
Ps 38:4-7 4 For mine iniquities are gone over mine head: as an heavy burden they are too heavy for me. 5 My wounds stink and are corrupt because of my foolishness. 6 I am troubled; I am bowed down greatly; I go mourning all the day long. 7 For my loins are filled with a loathsome disease: and there is no soundness in my flesh. KJV
The trio mentioned in the article are in for hard times. Polygamy doesn't work. Somebody loses. And yes, they are sinning.
“we promised each other that we would never leave each other’s side”
Perhaps a little psychiatric help was in order.
Our preacher got asked that the other day about the mulitple wives, and why that seemed to be “okay” with God back then.
He pointed out some OT verses where it was NOT okay. But he also mentioned how God had bigger things for David (and the others) to work on first. Just like us. And, in spite of their (and our) flaws, God can still use us.
Eventually I lost 3/4ths of all my stuff.
"'Polygamy is prohibited by Scripture and all Christian churches. Monogamous marriage is the only form of marriage recognized by Jesus as instituted by God for all times (Matt. 19:4-6)....While Scripture records instances of polygamous marriage in the Old Testament, it does not thereby sanction polygamy. It is forbidden in the Moral Law (Lev. 18:18). The Civil Law of Moses did indeed permit it (Deut. 21:15-17), as it permitted also divorces not sanctioned by the Moral Law, and for the same reason, 'because of the hardness of their hearts' (Matt. 19:8). This toleration and regulation of polygamy and of divorce does not carry with it the sanction of Moral Law. A thing may be legally right, but not morally." (E. Koehler, A Summary of Christian Doctrine, 286)
"According to the divine institution, lawful marriage consists of one man and one woman (Gen. 2:18,24). Christ supported monogamy as the only proper form of marriage (Matt. 19:4-6). While the Bible does not directly condemn the plural marriages that occurred in the Old Testament, it candidly reports the evil effects of polygamy (or polygyny), as in the families of Jacob (Gen. 35:22; 37:18-28), David (2 Sam. 13; 15), and especially Solomon (1 Kings 11:1-2)." (J. T. Mueller, The Concise Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, "Polygamy")
The above-described position is similar to that held by the Roman Catholic Church (see Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1610, 1645, 2387).
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Kings+11%3A1-3&version=ASV
Leave it to you to find this... :)
Yes, but his ending was left ambiguous.
I’ve seen “Taboo” and you aren’t kidding.Their trannys don’t look male like the ones here do.
Bookmarking this interesting thread for a point in time when websense filters aren’t so onerous.
Envy and anger were the least of the problems. Absalom boinked Davids concubines up on the palace roof, for the entire country to know.
“At least he only has one MIL. “
LOL!
Hugh Hefner is probably jealous. But then he never had to marry twins.
Usually, the penalty for bigamy is two mothers-in-law. But in this case… lol
Oh, sorry, I thought they were conjoined twins.
Leaving out
Leviticus 18:18
“‘Do not take your wife’s sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living.
Of course, also leaving out that the levitical law may be argued to be specific to people under the Mosaic covenant.
Gentile Believers are enjoined concerning certain things, as you point out, but were basically relieved of the Jewish law in Acts 21:25 - As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.
Non-believers may have fewer restrictions. Noah was told to not eat meat with the life still in it (basically two of the four items above), not to murder, and to be fruitful and multiply.
That said - this particular fellow’s way of going about this is not the wisest of courses, IMHO. The law was given for a reason, after all.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.