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Why Confederates are taken for granted! (Like conservatives today?)
Nolan Chart ^ | March 16, 2012 | Mark Vogl

Posted on 03/21/2012 7:21:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Confederates of the Southern movement are like the conservatives of the Republican Party, the leaders believe they have no choice!

The parallels occurring in America between the 2012 election year, what is occurring in America as a nation and in the South, and the events of 150 years ago are startling.

While most Americans have some knowledge of the GOP Primary, few have any idea of the Sesquicentennial (the 150th Anniversary of the Civil War) and the events occurring in the Southern movement. And yet, what is occurring is like mirror reflections of one another.

Let's start with what most people know about, the GOP primary. Mitt Romney is the sweetheart of the northeast Republicans. He is super rich, someone keenly involved in the international economy. He is a social liberal, the father of Romney Care, the proto type of Obama Care. He is not Christian, or at least his faith, Mormonism, is not Christian and this suits the northeast elite who revile the Christian faith. God has no place at the governing table. Heavily Catholic in the northeast, it is also heavily liberal. Abortion starts and ends there, along with feminism.

There is a strong Jewish constituency in the northeast, and though divided on many issues, many Jews see America as an extension of Israel. Not the other way around... American foreign policy revolves around Israel. We are in two wars, and threatening a third for Israel's security not our own.

Former Governor of a blue, dark blue state, Mitt Romney is keenly aware of all the above.

But Romney can't win a majority of Republican votes anywhere. He has spent maybe twenty million dollars and the best he can do is garner about 35% of the vote in any state. Why? Because the conservative core of the Party rejects him. It’s instinctual. It’s not Rush, or Hannity. They have no effect on this. Neither does Beck, a Mormon who I would bet is committed to Romney. Beck has backed away recently, but his fangs have already shown.

So if the conservative base will not support Romney in the Primaries how is it that the GOP elite think Romney can beat Obama? ( Maybe they don't, but that's for a different article. ) Because the Republican elite, the Neo Cons, the Karl Roves, the Bush's, et. el figure the conservatives have nowhere else to go. If Romney is the nominee, if he is forced on the party, they will have no choice but support him. Some conservatives may stay home, but the Republican elite just can't believe enough of the conservative base would stay home, or vote for Obama to give the Democrats the win. So conservatives...once again, as you have time and again, you will have to accept the lesser of two evils. You know like McCain and Bob Dole, this is the best we can do. Suck it up! ( an old Army expression.)

For most of us conservatives we know the story. Its burned in our political memories.

Well, the parallel is in the South. For most of the nation the Sesquicentennial doesn't mean much. Many Americans ancestors arrived after the war. Italians, central Europeans, Greeks, and almost all the Latino's have no direct connection to the war, or the division of the nation. In fact, most of these people have no connection to the founding of the nation. They came for material wealth, not liberty and freedom. In their mind, government is supposed to provide. The Tenth Amendment, what's that?

But in the South, where there is a tie to Robert E. Lee, the Confederacy, and southern nationalism, the Sesquicentennial is more than a minor occurrence. If you have ever seen the movie "Sweet Home Alabama" it accurately portrays what occurs in the South every year! The Sesquicentennial is NOT the only time reenactments occur, it’s just when the biggest ones do. A special effort is made.

Recent work at Texas A & M on genealogical formula's indicates that between 50 and 80 million Americans have blood that traces back to a Southern ancestor. That would be one sixth to one fourth of all Americans. Pretty sizeable crew.

But the Sesquicentennial is occurring during the Obama Presidency and there seems to be a real effort, though hidden and underground, to reduce the Southern Pride. Example; the Museum of the Confederacy (M.o.C.) Located in the heart of Richmond, the capitol of the Olde Confederacy, the Museum occupies prized ground that surrounding hospitals or other businesses want. The pressure has been on them a long time to get out. So, this year, the M.o.C. opens its first extension. Many of us believe the opening of the extensions will allow the Museum to leave Richmond eventually.

But the selection for the first opening is evidence that Yankee interests have invested the museum.

Is the first opening in the lovely Shenandoah where Jackson beat three Union armies in one campaign? No. Oh I know, it’s off Interstate 95 at Chancellorsville, the site of Lee's greatest victory! NO. OK, maybe up closer to Washington, D.C. on the Manassas battlefield where the Confederacy won two major battles? Nope. So where?

Appomattox, the place where General Lee surrendered the Army of Northern Virginia. You are kidding! For a Southerner, only Andersonville could be a worse location!

Nope, it's Appomattox. A location more than an hour from any interstate! A location not heavily visited. Great plan don't you think? Take the musuem out of Richmond and put it out in the middle of nowhere?

But the subtle attack on the Confederacy gets better. No Confederate flags will fly on poles outside the Museum of the Confederacy! Not one.

But hey, you Southerners dig into your pockets and shell out some money for the M.o.C.

The fight in the South goes well beyond this.

At THE CITADEL, in Charleston, South Carolina, where the cadets of this school fired the first shots of the war, this school played Dixie as its fight song at football games in the 70's. Confederate naval ensigns flew proudly on the RV's and cars outside the stadium at the cookouts before the game. Crimson red dominated the area surrounding the stadium

Crimson red still dominates, but it’s not the Confederate battle flag. And Dixie, well you don't hear that one anymore. THE CITADEL is not the only culprit. The University of Texas at Arlington, which used to be Arlington State College, and was known as the Rebels where Dixie was also played, is now the U.T.A. Mavericks. The effort to erase Southern history proceeds unabated. The heritage organizations responsible for defending the Cause, overwhelmed or apathetic shrink in inactivity. Oh yes, every once in awhile you will hear about a Court case. But with a potential base of 50 - 80 million Americans you would think they could make more than a whisper.

Where Gettysburg in Pennsylvania nets three hundred million in tourist monies every year, employing 6,000 people, battlefields in the South are hidden. When you drive into a Southern state go to their Visitor's center and look through the brochures for Maps about the Civil War. Probably won't find them. They are there but you have to ask at the counter. The north can prosper from the war, but the South...nope.

Groups like the Sons of Confederate Veterans and the United Daughters of the Confederacy treat Southern patriots like the GOP treats their conservative core. You have nowhere else to go so suck it up!

Ok, so why are you writing this article? Well Republicans remember you thought the conservatives would have no choice? If there is a parallel between the South and the GOP you better rethink that.

In the South, since the heritage organizations would not fight for the South, new groups have spontaneously arisen, and you know what. Much of the activists in these groups are members of the heritage organizations who are tired of inactivity and defeat without a fight. They are in the streets, and they call themselves Flaggers. They reject the passivity and leadership of the heritage organizations. They are causing more pressure on the enemies of the South, and getting more attention then anyone can believe. They are only a handful, but in a South tired of being kicked they are growing.

Well, the same could happen in November at the ballot box.

Sarah Palin is still with us. A candidacy by her would end Romney, nominee or not.

History does repeat itself...but this time the history is simultaneous. Patriotism is not dead. Individuals willing to fight for what they think is right, and who are tired of sorry leadership are on the move. Will it snowball? Let's watch.


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To: manc
Maybe this guy can articulate it better than I have.
121 posted on 03/26/2012 2:27:22 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

ROFLMAO!!!! He got zotted for kicking ass on FR? You might want to ask Jim R about that. he got zotted because he was a troll and decided to go up against Jim and tell him gays in the military were AOK . The boss himself fried his a$$. Then he came back FOUR more times and got zotted.

I figured by now you and NS probably moved in together or at least got a room.


122 posted on 03/26/2012 2:55:17 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; rockrr

No, he was openly supporting and promoting the homo agenda here.

Plus he was an obnoxious troll
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Of course he was and if you went back to the day he joined he always supported queers and other liberal agendas including abortion. I would post all the past posts, but he’s gone, not wasting my time unless he shows up here again, but JR is no dummy, I’m sure he will zot him again, just like he did his other 4 retread accounts.

Rockrr will always be in love with him.


123 posted on 03/26/2012 3:05:43 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Pelham

you’d think they have a Trayvon Martin rally to hurry up to...


124 posted on 03/26/2012 3:06:28 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; rockrr; little jeremiah; onyx; TheOldLady

The fact that so many long time FReepers celebrated for weeks over NS’s zot, says it all.


125 posted on 03/26/2012 3:07:30 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: rockrr

Do you suppose that there might just be a possibility that this el kabong guy isn’t who you think it is and you are needlessly harassing him?
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NO!


126 posted on 03/26/2012 3:08:31 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: mojitojoe; rockrr
Rockrr will always be in love with him.

LOL....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzV7twJqeQ8&feature=fvst

127 posted on 03/26/2012 3:09:45 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: rockrr

Vomit material. Contact him and get a room.


128 posted on 03/26/2012 3:11:46 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: mojitojoe

I’m imbibing a post to his departure as I type this.


129 posted on 03/26/2012 3:13:13 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: manc

Like clockwork, amazing, isn’t it. If you ever want to find NS’s new re-tread names, just look for rockrr and Bubba Ho-tep to show up. Trumandogz can’t anymore, he got zotted. Bwahahahahah! Bubbas flying way below the radar because he knows he’s being watched by many. WATCHED!!!! Not stalked. Watching is not stalking.


130 posted on 03/26/2012 3:15:36 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: rockrr

Excellent advice and I always go by past posting history, key words, phrases and who their friends are. NS is easy to spot. He will always turn up on CW threads and BC threads and there aren’t many newbies interested in both of those.


131 posted on 03/26/2012 3:17:56 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Pelham

they only care because it involves blacks as the victims...supposedly

were it about American Indians or Mexicans as the poor exploited group they could give a damn

it’s about them or in some way connected...wifey or adopted black kid or mixed race...some connection to being a victim of white folks and southerners are the perfect place to start beating the drum

whites being mean to blacks is their thing...some of these turds are black but never admit it except one

or they are married to a black or they have some minority interest...religion maybe

it’s always something persona;

normal non southerners don’t much care

who was that poster who used to rail about it all and was found out to be a liar about what he was but married to a black woman...so he said when busted about the other lies?

illbay...angry Mormon?

sinkspur...fake priest...probably social lib MaryKnoll type in love with latinos

and others

only one of these south bashers has ever nutted up to be black and even though I often disagree with him I respect that and unlike these clowns he often posts about other issues too

if they are so obsessed with any white committed injustice then why stop with the South...plenty more crap to whine about


132 posted on 03/26/2012 3:21:42 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: little jeremiah
"Could this be FR’s favorite retread? Anti-birther and hates the Confederacy... Made 3 comments so far only."

That will earn him points with management.

133 posted on 03/26/2012 3:28:13 PM PDT by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: mojitojoe

it’s pathetic how they all of sudden come out together and within an hour of these threads.


134 posted on 03/26/2012 3:38:50 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: wardaddy
The calendar says 2012.

Your computer is stuck in 2002.

And you ... is it 1952 or 1962 in your head?

135 posted on 03/26/2012 3:40:28 PM PDT by x (Silly me. It's still 1862 in there.)
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To: x; wardaddy

the hit dog howls....


136 posted on 03/26/2012 3:44:03 PM PDT by Pelham (Marco Rubio, la raza trojan horse.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Notice rockrr is making this about HIM to draw attention away from the new NS retread name.

Photobucket

137 posted on 03/26/2012 3:48:42 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; rockrr

Can’t you feel the loooooveeeeee....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9_nXlvY6Io


138 posted on 03/26/2012 3:49:45 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Godebert

Point taken...

:-[


139 posted on 03/26/2012 3:50:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: The Cajun; Las Vegas Ron; rockrr
Rockrr to the long ago zotted NS that he still pines for: PhotobucketPhotobucket Photobucket
140 posted on 03/26/2012 4:00:00 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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