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Interview with Virgil Goode: How Do We Elevate Constitutional Principles?
Forbes ^ | 28 Aug 12 | Bill Flax

Posted on 08/29/2012 6:46:58 AM PDT by xzins

...Virgil Goode has long supported a bill to audit the Federal Reserve, which recently cleared the House. He advocates “currency that is real and backed by gold or silver.”

Goode champions “fair and equitable opportunity, but it’s up to you to use it. Government cannot ensure equal results because every individual differs;”

An ardent proponent of balancing the budget, our deficits Goode insists, stem from “spending.” “Taxes should be simple and fair … I’m not for increasing income taxes; if we even have an income tax.”

The candidate laments “too much federal involvement in our lives” offering as an example the Department of Education, “should not be involved, schooling should be determined by states and localities …

“Government forcibly redefining marriage to include anything other than one man and one woman would be totally foreign to the views of the framers of the Constitution, first ten amendments and Declaration of Independence.”

Goode denies that the Founders, men of “deep-seated values,” would consider a cross on the town square or the Ten Commandments posted at school “as un-constitutional... public displays “aren’t forcing religion on anyone,

He adamantly opposed our Libyan debacle

Goode implores “following the Constitution, we can’t let the UN decide” clarifying “I don’t mind working with allies like we did in World War One and Two, but I’d never let U.S. troops serve under UN command. ...

“I’m totally opposed to illegal immigration and will put a moratorium on new Green Cards until unemployment reduces. Jobs should [go] to U.S. citizens first.” Goode would “eliminate automatic birthright citizenship”

Going the third party route is admittedly precarious ... unless living in a key battleground state, it’s unlikely your vote matters much. Likewise, for the many voters (that) might stay home, pulling the lever for Goode seems sound.

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“I’m totally opposed to illegal immigration and will put a moratorium on new Green Cards until unemployment reduces. Jobs should [go] to U.S. citizens first.” Goode would “eliminate automatic birthright citizenship” for which he has supported past legislation and would “immediately repeal the executive order giving temporary amnesty; a stand Romney won’t take.”

Virgil Goode's take on immigration is that illegal immigration should be stopped at the border and that there should be no place in the US for anyone here illegally.

In fact, he believes that even legal immigration should be tied to the US jobless rate. Why bring in more to take American jobs when we are in difficult times, or why bring in those who will not find jobs and end up costing taxpayers?

I think it makes sense. Whether you like the messenger or not, it makes sense.

George and Jeb Bush, on the other hand, believe in open amnesty.

We all know that that will be Romney's position when the dust settles.

1 posted on 08/29/2012 6:47:00 AM PDT by xzins
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Regarding the oxymoron of “same-sex marriage” Goode warned, “Government forcibly redefining marriage to include anything other than one man and one woman would be totally foreign to the views of the framers of the Constitution, first ten amendments and Declaration of Independence.”

Goode denies that the Founders, men of “deep-seated values,” would consider a cross on the town square or the Ten Commandments posted at school “as un-constitutional.” Further, public displays “aren’t forcing religion on anyone, but now certain parties wish to erase the principles on which this country was founded.” He continued, “In this era of relativity, we’ve gotten away from the Christian principles which made families stronger, gave a compass to individuals.”

2 posted on 08/29/2012 6:47:41 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: billflax

excellent interview, BF. Thanks.


3 posted on 08/29/2012 6:48:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Goode is another in a long line of completely irrelevant 3rd party candidates. Virgil makes some great points, and so does my neighbor and the girl from the local dog-walking service - none have the slightest chance at all of every being President.


4 posted on 08/29/2012 6:51:40 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

Mr. Goode will get CONSERVATIVE votes before the
RINO ROMNEY (author of DEATH PANELS).


5 posted on 08/29/2012 6:55:19 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Longbow1969
Especially now that the GOP has given itself the power to toss out dissenting voices at the Convention.

Screw the Country. Protect the GOP at all costs...

6 posted on 08/29/2012 6:55:52 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Longbow1969

Bingo


7 posted on 08/29/2012 6:57:19 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa (Vote for Goode, end up with evil, pat self on back repeatedly)
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To: All

I like him, maybe it is time to turn GOP into Whig. If not now, when? how many times do we have to hear “wait four more years”.


8 posted on 08/29/2012 6:58:24 AM PDT by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: Diogenesis; All
Mr. Goode will get CONSERVATIVE votes before the RINO ROMNEY (author of DEATH PANELS).

And if the former 'Rat Virgil Goode manages to get enough votes in Virginia to swing that state into the 'Rat electoral column, resulting in a second term for 0bama, won't you be proud of that?

Get this through your head folks, the only purpose Virgil Goode is serving in this election cycle is to divert votes away from the GOP, thereby increasing the odds for the 0bama campaign to prevail, specifically in Virginia.

"You're either with us, or you're with the 0bamunists"
9 posted on 08/29/2012 6:59:35 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: Longbow1969

The Republican Party started out as a third party you know? Think about it...how long do we let the GOPe tell us how to vote? Don’t tell me if I do that I will give the election to obama...the way I see it, the GOPe are giving the election to obama. They still have time to give us a nominee. Abraham Lincoln was NOT the presumptive nominee you know?


10 posted on 08/29/2012 6:59:45 AM PDT by Dscott_FR (Right Wing Extremist and proud of it!!)
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To: Diogenesis

Goode the pretend candidate, will get votes from those pretending to vote

There are two candidates.

All others are merely pretenders


11 posted on 08/29/2012 7:00:27 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: mkjessup
Then vote Johnson.

"You are either with the forces of liberty and Constitutional governance, or you are with the forces of bigger government and subservience."

12 posted on 08/29/2012 7:05:24 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: xzins

Just another Akin. Goode can say the right things, but he will marginalize his views through his actions. By running in states like VA, he makes an Obama victory more likely and of course, Obama is diametrically opposed to liberty. By making it harder for Romney to win, the less consideration will be given to people like Goode that opposed the GOP.
But, I guess the point is for Goode to destroy the conservative movement by dividing it.


13 posted on 08/29/2012 7:05:56 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: bert

Fine. You go vote for bigger government and less freedom. Just don’t pretend to be “fighting the good fight”.


14 posted on 08/29/2012 7:06:52 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: mkjessup; Jim Robinson; P-Marlowe

Which of the following is CONSERVATIVE:

Goode is pro-life and Romney is pro-abortion for “health” of mother, a position that covers everything from colds to sore muscles.

Goode is for natural marriage and Romney is for gay couples, gay adoption, gay boy scouts, and a gay military

Goode is against illegal immigration and Romney won’t talk about it, but Jeb Bush says he should be for it.

Goode is for auditing the Fed and Romney is for letting the financial cronies run the country

Goode is for the right to keep and bear arms and Romney is for bi-partisan gun control legislation

Goode is for individual responsibility and Romney is for Big Government health care

Goode is for cutting spending and Romney is for a plan that cut’s the rate of spending, and assuming 4% growth for 30 years will end up with a balanced budget.

Goode is for eliminating the Dept of Education and Romney is for keeping it.


15 posted on 08/29/2012 7:09:25 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: bert

There are at least 4 candidates, but there are millions of voters.

Some voters will have pretend conservative votes, and others will actually vote conservative.

Goode a real conservative.
Romney a real liberal.


16 posted on 08/29/2012 7:12:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: bert

You’re right, but as soon as you bring up numbers to a turd party fan, they immediately zone out. Hell, there are even idiots here who call Timmy the Halfling a “candidate.”


17 posted on 08/29/2012 7:16:35 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa (Vote for Goode, end up with evil, pat self on back repeatedly)
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To: Dead Corpse
Then vote Johnson.

LMAO, and really throw your vote away.

"You are either with the forces of liberty and Constitutional governance, or you are with the forces of bigger government and subservience."

For this election coming up, that train has already left the station. The bottom line goal is to get rid of 0bama, and if we fail to do that, his second term will see the destruction of what is left of America. The GOP ticket of Romney & Ryan is the only vehicle for preventing that.

"SURVIVAL TRUMPS IDEOLOGY"
~ ['The Unknown FReeper']
18 posted on 08/29/2012 7:20:20 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: xzins

A vote for Goode is a vote for Obama. Don’t put your silly principal in front of your country.


19 posted on 08/29/2012 7:26:01 AM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: mkjessup
I agree. The train has left the station. It's snowing, visibility is zero, and the bridge it out.

Who the conductor is no longer matters.

20 posted on 08/29/2012 7:31:26 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: xzins
You forgot one,

Romney & Ryan have a legitimate shot at throwing out that Kenyan SOB, and Virgil Goode does NOT.
21 posted on 08/29/2012 7:32:00 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: navysealdad; mkjessup
A vote for Goode is a vote for Goode. As he points out he's attracting just as many conservative independents and conservative democrats as conservative republicans. So, he takes equally from both parties. Those, of course, that he attracts in places like California or New York don't matter anyway, because Calif and NY are such bastions of the democratic party that they vote dem by rote and not by anything else, certainly not by thought.

In addition to us being so far down the road that a new party is necessary, there is this view that ABO republicans should consider:

Two things about ABOs who claim they'll hold Romney's feet to the fire and win back the party after the election:

1. They are not effectively holding Romney's feet to the fire:... in just the past week he's come out for Romneycare again and also for a "health" exception in allowing abortions.

2. The election:

IF ROMNEY WINS: He will be the head of the party, his METHODS will be lauded as effective, he will install the leaders, and he will set the agenda.

IF ROMNEY LOSES: He and his will be shown to be losers, his methods will be proven totally illegitimate, the party will be in turmoil, the leadership will be shakey and defeatable.

Which scenario will provide the best opportunity for conservatives to change the power structure?

Which scenario will entrench liberal republicanism for decades?

It's that simple.

22 posted on 08/29/2012 7:33:16 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Longbow1969

He will get the same amount of votes as the Rosie/Sheehan 3rd party crowd and they will cancel each other out


23 posted on 08/29/2012 7:35:25 AM PDT by italianquaker ( 17 percent of the tea partiers support barry obama, the fox poll said so lol)
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To: Dead Corpse; All
I agree. The train has left the station. It's snowing, visibility is zero, and the bridge it out.
Who the conductor is no longer matters.


I got an news flash for you, it ain't the conductor that runs the train. It's the ENGINEER, and you can stick with the moron in the cab running the locomotive from a teleprompter, or you can put the only other engineer up on the controls in hopes of preventing a massive train wreck.

But you go right ahead and give 0bama your default vote by throwing the lever for either Goode, Johnson, or some other fringe candidate. Enjoy the view from the FEMA train when 0bama in his second term decides to round all the conservative dissidents up as national security 'risks'.
24 posted on 08/29/2012 7:35:55 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: xzins; All
IF ROMNEY LOSES

0BAMA WINS

and THAT means that America LOSES

You want that on your conscience preacher?
25 posted on 08/29/2012 7:37:46 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: xzins

I'M STILL VOTING FOR ROMNEY!

I refuse to vote for a candidate who will receive ZERO Electoral votes.

26 posted on 08/29/2012 7:38:09 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Voter ID Equals "No Representation Without Respiration")
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To: Gay State Conservative

Amen GSC. If you’re going to vote for some clown who won’t get any electoral action, way settle? Grow a pair and vote for yourself. Anything less is compromise.


27 posted on 08/29/2012 7:40:04 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa (Vote for Goode, end up with evil, pat self on back repeatedly)
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To: mkjessup
To: mkjessup

Good post,

Palpable angst.

Concur, wholeheartedly.

Sometimes survival trumps ideology.

127 posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 6:38:52 PM by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)

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28 posted on 08/29/2012 7:41:32 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: mkjessup
Wrong. We are either going to have a fast train wreck, or a slow one. Either way, we're off the rails and falling into the gorge.

Gee... Maybe we should have stuck with the guys offering plane tickets...

29 posted on 08/29/2012 7:45:08 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: going hot

GOING HOT my FRiend!!

Somehow, I had missed your post (and went looking for it many times) and thanks for pointing out your authorship, I will be giving you full credit for that from this point on. :)


30 posted on 08/29/2012 7:52:29 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: mkjessup

Explain to me again the difference between Obamney and Obozzo?


31 posted on 08/29/2012 7:52:35 AM PDT by CapnJack
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To: Dead Corpse
We are either going to have a fast train wreck, or a slow one. Either way, we're off the rails and falling into the gorge.

The only thing off the rails is your reasoning and common sense, so go on and vote for 0bama and be done with it.
32 posted on 08/29/2012 7:54:14 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: CapnJack
Explain to me again the difference between Obamney and Obozzo?

If you're too stupid to recognize the difference, there is nothing I, or anyone else can say that will open up your eyes.
33 posted on 08/29/2012 7:55:31 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: mkjessup
You SPEAK OF a difference between Willard-the-Conservative-backstabber
and Obama the Moslem Tyrant .... but are unable to state one.

Fact is, they are the exact same in so many ways.

Obama ... Romney .... Obama .... Soros .... Romney

34 posted on 08/29/2012 8:00:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: mkjessup

If RINO Romney (author of gay marriage AND death panels)
wins, America the free loses.

ROMNEY is the white Obama.


35 posted on 08/29/2012 8:01:14 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: mkjessup; wagglebee; P-Marlowe
conscience preacher

Why would it matter if one big government, pro-abortion, pro-homosexualism, pro-gun control, wins over another just like him?

I've got nothing on my conscience if I vote my principles:

Incidentally, the Apostle Paul rejects the idea of doing evil for a supposedly good purpose. Romans 3: "--"Let us do evil that good may result"? Their condemnation is deserved.

So, it is contrary to Christian teaching for me to kill a few babies myself in order to prevent a bigger baby killer.

In short, the lesser of two evils is still evil, but it's more than that...it's condemned.

36 posted on 08/29/2012 8:04:21 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: mkjessup
I'm voting for smaller, more Constitutional government. Why aren't you? Why do you like bigger government and less freedom? Why do you support higher taxes, more Federal control over health care, abortion, gun control, and a continuation of insider politics?

Why do you want to vote against everything that made our Country great to begin with?

37 posted on 08/29/2012 8:05:11 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

I’m not pretending to fight, I actually fight.

Pretending to vote is pretending to fight.


38 posted on 08/29/2012 8:06:25 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: italianquaker
He will get the same amount of votes as the Rosie/Sheehan 3rd party crowd and they will cancel each other out

I believe the Green ticket this year is Stein/Honkala. It might very well garner more votes than the Constitution Party. Both are entirely irrelevant and, as you point out, likely cancel each other out. There are dead-enders and hardheads in each election cycle that sit our or waste their votes on 3rd party's. These people end up making no different, no one remembers their efforts and no one really cares.

39 posted on 08/29/2012 8:07:17 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: mkjessup
IF ROMNEY LOSES

0BAMA WINS

and THAT means that America LOSES

You want that on your conscience preacher?


You imply that if Romney wins Americal wins... a false dichotomy, FRiend.
40 posted on 08/29/2012 8:11:42 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Longbow1969
"Goode is another in a long line of completely irrelevant 3rd party candidates. Virgil makes some great points, and so does my neighbor and the girl from the local dog-walking service - none have the slightest chance at all of every being President."

Why? Simple. Because there are those who are more concerned with winning an election and voting for the one with their favorite letter next to the candidates' names than voting for principled candidates.
41 posted on 08/29/2012 8:12:03 AM PDT by EventuallyYouWillLearn ("If you're not brave, you're not going to be free." - Newt Gingrich)
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To: mkjessup
"Get this through your head folks, the only purpose Virgil Goode is serving in this election cycle is to divert votes away from the GOP..."

Exactly. My thick head understands this perfectly... but I thank you, mkjessup, for spelling it out for me.
42 posted on 08/29/2012 8:12:06 AM PDT by EventuallyYouWillLearn ("If you're not brave, you're not going to be free." - Newt Gingrich)
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To: grumpygresh

“But, I guess the point is for Goode to destroy the conservative movement by dividing it.”

Far as I can tell, the number of conservatives running for POTUS is minimal and they are all third party. The two large parties have decided to jointly run a “Do you prefer salt or pepper with your liberalism” campaign.

Yesterday’s heavy-handed actions in the rules committee make it clear conservatives have little chance of a voice in the GOPe.

It was foolish. At least 20% of RINOmney’s potential vote was weak, but grudging. I actually saw a picture this morning from the convention vote where two delegates had real clothespins on their noses as they voted.

Now this.

RINOmney is doing fine at destroying the conservative movement without any help from Goode.


43 posted on 08/29/2012 8:14:02 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Sorry, gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: bert; All
I’m not pretending to fight, I actually fight.
Pretending to vote is pretending to fight.


Exactly Bert. True THINKING conservatives understand that as unpleasant the choice may be, the only possibility of stopping 0bama in his tracks is by voting for Romney & Ryan. Romney was never our first choice, however if the choice is between a liberal Republican and a Communist Kenyan hell bent on destroying our Nation, that liberal Republican will get my vote. Once again, Donald Rumsfeld's impeccable logic applies, which is "you go to war with the army (or the candidate) you have, not the army you want, or the army you may have in the future".

These jokers talking up Virgil Goode, Gary Johnson, or any other fringe candidate are only fooling themselves, I'm not ecstatic about voting GOP, but I AM going to vote for the only shot we have at throwing that jug eared freak out of the White House.

In World War II, nobody in the West approved of, nor condoned Stalin's mode of rule, nobody endorsed his iron fist over the Russian people, but we needed his troops to fight the damn Nazis and push them back into Germany, and that is why we sent tons of lend-lease to do just that.

Now I think we can all agree, that Romney may be a liberal, but he is NO Communist. On the other hand, 0bama IS a Communist, if not by card carrying evidence, certainly by his words, deeds and actions.

We either close ranks, vote for Romney & Ryan and hopefully defeat 0bama, or we can write off the remnants of our Republic. It ain't rocket science.
44 posted on 08/29/2012 8:18:51 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: Sopater
IF ROMNEY LOSES
0BAMA WINS
and THAT means that America LOSES
You want that on your conscience preacher?

You imply that if Romney wins America wins... a false dichotomy, FRiend.


America wins if 0bama loses, and even if we differ on the definition of 'wins', at the minimum America will survive without the Magic Kenyan stinkin' up the White House.
45 posted on 08/29/2012 8:21:50 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: Diogenesis

Virgil Goode was unable to get enough votes to win reelection in his district, before beginning this Don Quixote run.


46 posted on 08/29/2012 8:24:00 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: EventuallyYouWillLearn
"Get this through your head folks, the only purpose Virgil Goode is serving in this election cycle is to divert votes away from the GOP..."
Exactly. My thick head understands this perfectly... but I thank you, mkjessup, for spelling it out for me.


And did your thick head also understand that if Goode diverts enough votes away from the GOP in Virginia, possibly giving the state to the 'Rats so far as electoral votes are concerned, that it means 0bama may win a close election?

We have one choice, and one choice only to hopefully defeat 0bama, and that is Romney & Ryan. The stakes are too high to throw away votes on fringe candidates that WILL NOT WIN.
47 posted on 08/29/2012 8:24:58 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: xsmommy
xsmommy: "Virgil Goode was unable to get enough votes to win reelection in his district, before beginning this Don Quixote run.""

And Gov. Palin was the VP Candidate when
Mr. RomneyCARE began his attacks on her and her children
for his Obama and Soros.

48 posted on 08/29/2012 8:32:21 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: bert

Remember those words when you pull the lever for the “pretend” conservative...


49 posted on 08/29/2012 8:34:40 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: mkjessup
Why would we go to war with troops who will turn around and shoot us once the enemy is engaged?

Some of you folks are refusing to learn from history.

50 posted on 08/29/2012 8:39:21 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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