Posted on 12/21/2012 3:28:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
YES!! Kids used to take them to school all the time like a soccerball, basketball, football, baseball and bats, etc... Then the pc media started to call guns evil instead of the calling the lunatics who shoot unarmed kids evil. Which is where we are today.
This is REALITY. A hundred years ago, my great grandfather was a lightkeeper on the shores of the Tennessee River. There were rough sorts along the river. He faced reality and carried his Smith & Wesson pistol; he left the pistol to his son, who left it to my father, who left it to my son at his death. - This is REALITY. Dissolving in a blubbering heap will not change REALITY; no matter how bad Obama wants it and decrees it. - Right now, Barack & Michelle have escaped to the fantasyland of Hawaii. The rest of us have to live in REALITY; and REALITY is that most of us can’t afford escaping to fantasyland.
EXACTLY! A lot of people here seem to have a cognitive disconnect when it come to this.
My thought’s on this were exactly this.
We need the 2nd Amendment to protect us from an out of control Government.
Let’s hire 100,000 more Government agents and arm them.
Maybe we can just turn it over to the TSA.
The attack on the Second Amendment began when liberals determined that American guns stood between them and their objective of totalitarianism. That explains it all.
When I was a kid in elementary school, back in the 40s, every boy in the school who was older than about seven had a pocket knife. And we used to play with them in the schoolyard during recess. Mumbledepeg and the like.
We had bullies back then, but they used their fists, not knives. I think it was understood, without discussion, that fists, or maybe knees, or a head-butt, or a half nelson, were as far as it should go.
We often used to practice throwing knives during recess, and none of the teachers every said anything that I can remember.
They have a better chance of stopping a shooter with an armed officer present than with an armed officer that is enroute.
This is just basic common sense.
Despite the heated rhetoric on this subject, two things should be evident to any reasonable person. First, all gun are not going to be taken out of the hands of the general population and second, all potential mass murderers are not going to be identified and institutionalized.
Since all schools are not the same, it is unlikely that any one remedy would be appropriate. With some of the larger, more troubled upper grade level schools, a certified police presence might be appropriate as there are often more need for them than just the possibility of an armed intruder. For the smaller and more disciplined schools as well as the elementary and kindergarten schools, a certified police presence is an unnecessary and costly option. For these schools, I would suggest something along the following lines:
Have the school purchase a number of moderate caliber rifles that are more accurate and easily controlled than handguns and an equal number of gun safes. Take volunteers from the school staff and after appropriate background checks and firearm training, install a gun safe with rifle in selected classrooms or offices. As an incentive, pay the teacher or administrator a small stipend to keep up their proficiency. Publicize the fact that there is always an armed presence in the school.
Since the likelihood of an incident in a given school is so small, a modest approach such as this would serve as a deterrent to the potential killer looking for an easy target while imposing minimal cost and disruption to the school environment.
Two questions:
Where and how many mass murders have occurred in other than gun free zones.
I don’t know of any.
Second: When did the shooting and killing stop at these mass murders?
The answer to the second question is that the shooting only stopped when one or more good guys showed up with GUNS.
Tht is not a theory, it is a fact well documented.
That should tell even the most dense flaming liberal that the answer to the school problem is guns in the school.
Personally, I like the idea of concealed carry. That would really worry anyone who had mayhem in mind because he would never know who would be the first to shoot him.
***the deaths of 26 little kids and teachers is not a rallying cry for unity and reform of gun laws,***
That is because after fifty years we know that it is not safety the ani-gunners want, it is control over the lives of the unprotected which will be you and me.
We strip-search grannies getting on an airplane in a wheelchair, where no granny has ever hijacked a plane with an assault rifle. Yet that’s to be expected. LaPierre was advocating a single armed guard at each school . . . hardly as intrusive as a TSA groping.
Somehow the description of a "Unionized Federal Employee guarding children in a school" somehow just doesn't give me great confidence. Plus the fact there would be 6 administrators for each on-site person.
Might as well bring back Prohibition, too, that worked out so well...
Plus the gummit always wants to spend millions to do something they could get done not for free, but for profit.
Rather than pay hundreds of millions to protect all of the schools, they could get the job done for free by letting those who want to carry, carry in the schools.
That would lead to more CCW’s, which of course carry with them a fee to the local county....so instead of an unbearable cost, the county would have an income.
More gummit stupidity.
Local law enforcement would be good.
And if I heard right, LaPierre pointed out that Obama had twice vetoed or cut school security. Why is that not issue number 1 ! Al Qeada terrorist have overrun a chlorine gas factory in Syria that also produces other toxic gases. They just today launched a three prong attack on the main Syrian military base located SE of Aleppo. That base has Scud’s and more accurate missiles ready to launch. Not to mention it was/is a base that stores actual WMD munitions. We potentially have some very bad stuff heading our way and we need to vastly increase security at all public meeting facilities. The first places affected will probably be Israel, Jordan and Egypt. But the WMD attacks could spread from there relatively quickly if they are successful.
You wrote: “I just had a vision of TSA in every school.”
That’s a stupid comment.
I grew up in Boston’s Charlestown Neighborhood and remember Boston’s Finest on patrol. As teens we didn’t necessarily like them when they told us to “Move it!” or “Screw!” from the corner at which we were hanging out... but we respected them and did what we were told.
Do you think that just maybe having a policeman on deck at a school might: 1. Provide some protection from the sick f___k sticks that are killing our kids and, 2. Might help kids understand that police are actually on their side and not the bogeymen that liberals mostly portray them to be?
Just asking.
You wrote: “I just had a vision of TSA in every school.”
That’s a stupid comment.
No, it is not stupid.
Because if the feds do it, it will be another TSA.
It must be a locally controlled system, whatever it is.
I never said a “federal agent” should be on deck at the school. I said “policeman” .... as in local cop. We have them at our county schools now.
until the 1980’s rifle clubs and teams a varsity sport were common in high schools...both boys and girls participated
Many communities have volunteer fire fighters, why not have volunteer guards from retired police or military from the community? The guards don’t even have to show the weapon, it could be kept concealed.
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