[2ndDivisionVet]

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

[ConservativeInPA]

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

That about says it all. End of thread.

[SnakeDoctor]

>> Requiring gun owners to pass background checks and restricting access to high-capacity magazines would be a minuscule price to pay to help avoid future Newtowns and Auroras.

Seems like an awfully big price to pay for not preventing another Aurora or Newtown, though.

SnakeDoc

[Pollster1]

And the Don’t Tread on Me slippery-slopers on both ends of the political spectrum tend to forget that Big Government helps protect other important rights. Like the right of a child to watch a marathon or attend first grade without getting massacred—or, for that matter, the right to live near a fertilizer factory without it blowing up your house. Our government needs to balance these rights, which is tough sometimes. But not always. Requiring gun owners to pass background checks and restricting access to high-capacity magazines would be a minuscule price to pay to help avoid future Newtowns and Auroras.....

The "right" not to be shot at school or blown up at a a marathon is an expectation and a goal, not a right. This is classic 1984 NewSpeak, where they redefine words in an attempt to twist or confuse the issue. Requiring gun owners to pass a "background check" is another Orwellism, since the check includes the make, model, and serial number of the weapon as a back door path to registration. Leftists live by lying, and I'm thoroughly tired of it.

[NotYourAverageDhimmi]

Reasonable people would profile. Muslims commit most terrorist activity, and blacks commit most crime. Of course young men from those groups should be scrutinized more closely.

[DJ MacWoW]

It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.

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[SampleMan]

And this is the road to serfdom.

[SampleMan]

Dear Time, They used pressure cookers you idiots.

[INVAR]

Our government needs to balance these rights, which is tough sometimes

Government HAS NO AUTHORITY to 'balance' (meaning to restrict in the name of security)our Rights which are God-granted and not within their authority to tamper with outside of an Amendment process prescribed in the Supreme Law of the Land.

Even then, God-ordained rights such as life, liberty, self defense and the pursuit of happiness are not within the jurisdiction of men to take or restrict.

This author is your typical Marxofascist boot-licking stooge. Franklin's quote again, which seems to be the quote of the day given what Bloomturd said yesterday.

[Bernard Marx]

Enforce the friggin' gun laws that are already on the books! Start with outlaw city gang-bangers whose arsenals consist of mostly stolen or already-illegal weapons.

Pay attention when psychiatrists notify LEO that certain individuals may be dangerous JAMES HOLMES and keep track of Loony-Tunes like the nutcase who shot Gabby Giffords. We don't need new laws; we need real law enforcement!

[Billthedrill]

I guess you could call me a statist.

Really, Michael? Why would I do that?

Our rights are not inviolate.

Oh. That's why.

There really isn't very much common ground on which to debate this sort of individual. Here's someone who did:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

That's the relationship between citizen and government in this country, Michael. We don't get the rights the government allows us, and they can't take them away without risking being altered or abolished. And it isn't unreasonable to be firm in the defense of fundamental civil rights. If you want to adjust them, amend the Constitution.

[Travis McGee]

[Psiman]

old joke:

Look is for people who can’t read

Time is for people who can’t think

some things never change

[TurboZamboni]

The left rails against our Big Government security state—the drone warfare, indefinite detention and electronic surveillance

where? when? I must have missed Martin Basheer and Chrissy Tingleg bemoaning this.