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17 reasons not to slit your wrists- Micheal Moore
Email | 11/05/04 | Micheal Moore

Posted on 11/04/2004 11:14:37 PM PST by politicalmerc

I received this email because I am subscribed to the moveon.org email blast. It's always good to keep an eye on the enemy. Read and enjoy him trying to put a good spin on the drubbing they received.


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11/5/04

Dear Friends,

Ok, it sucks. Really sucks. But before you go and cash it all in, let's, in the words of Monty Python, 'always look on the bright side of life!' There IS some good news from Tuesday's election.

Here are 17 reasons not to slit your wrists:

1. It is against the law for George W. Bush to run for president again.

2. Bush's victory was the NARROWEST win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916.

3. The only age group in which the majority voted for Kerry was young adults (Kerry: 54%, Bush: 44%), proving once again that your parents are always wrong and you should never listen to them.

4. In spite of Bush's win, the majority of Americans still think the country is headed in the wrong direction (56%), think the war wasn't worth fighting (51%), and don't approve of the job George W. Bush is doing (52%). (Note to foreigners: Don't try to figure this one out. It's an American thing, like Pop Tarts.)

5. The Republicans will not have a filibuster-proof 60-seat majority in the Senate. If the Democrats do their job, Bush won't be able to pack the Supreme Court with right-wing ideologues. Did I say "if the Democrats do their job?" Um, maybe better to scratch this one.

6. Michigan voted for Kerry! So did the entire Northeast, the birthplace of our democracy. So did 6 of the 8 Great Lakes States. And the whole West Coast! Plus Hawaii. Ok, that's a start. We've got most of the fresh water, all of Broadway, and Mt. St. Helens. We can dehydrate them or bury them in lava. And no more show tunes!

7. Once again we are reminded that the buckeye is a nut, and not just any old nut -- a poisonous nut. A great nation was felled by a poisonous nut. May Ohio State pay dearly this Saturday when it faces Michigan.

8. 88% of Bush's support came from white voters. In 50 years, America will no longer have a white majority. Hey, 50 years isn't such a long time! If you're ten years old and reading this, your golden years will be truly golden and you will be well cared for in your old age.

9. Gays, thanks to the ballot measures passed on Tuesday, cannot get married in 11 new states. Thank God. Just think of all those wedding gifts we won't have to buy now.

10. Five more African Americans were elected as members of Congress, including the return of Cynthia McKinney of Georgia. It's always good to have more blacks in there fighting for us and doing the job our candidates can't.

11. The CEO of Coors was defeated for Senate in Colorado. Drink up!

12. Admit it: We like the Bush twins and we don't want them to go away.

13. At the state legislative level, Democrats picked up a net of at least 3 chambers in Tuesday's elections. Of the 98 partisan-controlled state legislative chambers (house/assembly and senate), Democrats went into the 2004 elections in control of 44 chambers, Republicans controlled 53 chambers, and 1 chamber was tied. After Tuesday, Democrats now control 47 chambers, Republicans control 49 chambers, 1 chamber is tied and 1 chamber (Montana House) is still undecided.

14. Bush is now a lame duck president. He will have no greater moment than the one he's having this week. It's all downhill for him from here on out -- and, more significantly, he's just not going to want to do all the hard work that will be expected of him. It'll be like everyone's last month in 12th grade -- you've already made it, so it's party time! Perhaps he'll treat the next four years like a permanent Friday, spending even more time at the ranch or in Kennebunkport. And why shouldn't he? He's already proved his point, avenged his father and kicked our ass.

15. Should Bush decide to show up to work and take this country down a very dark road, it is also just as likely that either of the following two scenarios will happen: a) Now that he doesn't ever need to pander to the Christian conservatives again to get elected, someone may whisper in his ear that he should spend these last four years building "a legacy" so that history will render a kinder verdict on him and thus he will not push for too aggressive a right-wing agenda; or b) He will become so cocky and arrogant -- and thus, reckless -- that he will commit a blunder of such major proportions that even his own party will have to remove him from office.

16. There are nearly 300 million Americans -- 200 million of them of voting age. We only lost by three and a half million! That's not a landslide -- it means we're almost there. Imagine losing by 20 million. If you had 58 yards to go before you reached the goal line and then you barreled down 55 of those yards, would you stop on the three yard line, pick up the ball and go home crying -- especially when you get to start the next down on the three yard line? Of course not! Buck up! Have hope! More sports analogies are coming!!!

17. Finally and most importantly, over 55 million Americans voted for the candidate dubbed "The #1 Liberal in the Senate." That's more than the total number of voters who voted for either Reagan, Bush I, Clinton or Gore. Again, more people voted for Kerry than Reagan. If the media are looking for a trend it should be this -- that so many Americans were, for the first time since Kennedy, willing to vote for an out-and-out liberal. The country has always been filled with evangelicals -- that is not news. What IS news is that so many people have shifted toward a Massachusetts liberal. In fact, that's BIG news. Which means, don't expect the mainstream media, the ones who brought you the Iraq War, to ever report the real truth about November 2, 2004. In fact, it's better that they don't. We'll need the element of surprise in 2008.

Feeling better? I hope so. As my friend Mort wrote me yesterday, "My Romanian grandfather used to say to me, 'Remember, Morton, this is such a wonderful country -- it doesn't even need a president!'"

But it needs us. Rest up, I'll write you again tomorrow.

Yours,

Michael Moore MMFlint@aol.com www.michaelmoore.com

1 posted on 11/04/2004 11:14:37 PM PST by politicalmerc
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To: politicalmerc

Must we have this horse**** on this site? He makes me want to vomit.


2 posted on 11/04/2004 11:19:33 PM PST by Vindibudd
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To: politicalmerc
2. Bush's victory was the NARROWEST win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916

??? I don't think thats true at all... what do they mean by this?

3 posted on 11/04/2004 11:30:46 PM PST by GeronL (Congratulations Bush on your re-election VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Vindibudd

Michael Moore is an idiot. Enjoy his pain. Actually I'm sure these guys are really, really hurting. Sorry that I am smiling.


4 posted on 11/04/2004 11:34:08 PM PST by OHIOforBUSH (We Won...)
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To: OHIOforBUSH

Michael Moore is an idiot. Enjoy his pain. Actually I'm sure these guys are really, really hurting. Sorry that I am smiling.<<<<<<<<


Don't be sorry. I posted it to give us all a good belly laugh. That twikie eating fat tub of lard has mush for brains and had to say something or his next film would have to be on mass suicide.


5 posted on 11/04/2004 11:39:31 PM PST by politicalmerc (I just want to make ignorance painful.)
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To: politicalmerc

I am deeply saddened that the Taco Bell value menu wasn't listed!


6 posted on 11/04/2004 11:42:04 PM PST by 100%FEDUP
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To: GeronL
2. Bush's victory was the NARROWEST win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916
??? I don't think thats true at all... what do they mean by this?&

This means he is delusional and makes himself feel better by lying to his own supporters who wouldn't know history if they saw it. Remember, he is writing to the same crew that thinks he is a great documentary producer.
7 posted on 11/04/2004 11:42:10 PM PST by politicalmerc (I just want to make ignorance painful.)
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To: Vindibudd

I agree. THis just goes to show you what a sick disgusting piece of horse crap that fat SOB really is. What a pathetic miserable excuse for human existance this guy really is.


8 posted on 11/05/2004 12:12:41 AM PST by Nascardude
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To: Vindibudd
LMAO!!
You shouldn't kick a guy when he is down and suffering such great pain, but Micheal Moore is such a BIIIIG tempting target.
I am just finding it really hard not to enjoy his great pain at President Bush's HUGE win.

As for his self delusional funny little piece..

" Bush's victory was the NARROWEST win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916"

Will you excuse me while I laugh, Mike?
Ummmm ..Yo Mike, President Bush won with the HIGHEST number of votes in American history, with OVER 59 million votes and still counting.
No President, not JFK, not Clinton, no President in history has won as many votes as President Bush did Tuesday.
Plus President Bush increased his votes from 2000 by over 8 million votes, and beat Hanoi John by over 3.5 million votes!
To rub it even more, President Bush then proceeded to get the majority of the votes with over 51% of the votes, the first President to do so since his own dad President Bush senior in 1988.
Plus President Bush took two Algore states from Hanoi John Kerry, and increased his vote share in nearly every state, including states that Algore carried massively, and including even Kerry's own home state, where Bush got a higher share of the votes than he did against Algore.

And Mike? Lay off all those 200 plus burgers you keep consuming every single, ok?
You are heading for a heart attack sooner or later.
Not that you will be any loss to mankind....but hey we are conservatives, so we worry about the health of even filthy scum like you. :-)
9 posted on 11/05/2004 12:34:25 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: politicalmerc
"The Republicans will not have a filibuster-proof 60-seat majority in the Senate"

But we will or come close to having those 60 US Senate seats come 2006.
All we need is for the Democrats to keep listening to fat ugly, smelly creeps like Michael Moore, and its not going to be too hard to grab those needed seats from th Democrats in 2006.
So do us a favor, will you Mike?
Just keep on spewing out all that anti-American hate that you are so good at doing.
Enemies like you make it much easier for Republicans to win.
10 posted on 11/05/2004 12:41:32 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: politicalmerc; Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; ...
#1 MUCH EASIER FOR RELATIVES TO CLEAN UP THE APARTMENT AFTER DRINKING ARSNIC LACED KOOL-AID
11 posted on 11/05/2004 2:34:21 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: OHIOforBUSH
President Bush was alleged to have remarked that his debate strategy was: "...to be real positive, while I keep my foot on John Kerry's throat."

Michael Moore is cut of the same cloth as American born Nazi propagandists "Axis Sally" (Mildred Gillars) and Lord Haw Haw (William Joyce). Both were convicted of treason after WWII; Mr. Joyce was hanged by the British. Miss Gillars was sentenced to prison.

Mr. Moore's use of interview footage with wounded soldiers in Fahrenheit 911 was akin to Miss Gillars' own broadcast edited interviews with captured American soldiers (she posed as a Red Cross representative). See FahrenHYPE 911 to see one of the soldiers protest the exploitation of his hospitalization by the antiAmerican Michael Moore. It is why I call him Axis Mikey.

There is footage in FahrenHYPE 911 of some critics (soldiers? Dick Morris?) comparing Michael Moore's tactics to the propagandists of WWII (Tokio Rose?). I think it is good of them to draw the allusion. I think that they could have gone much farther with it. I would also steer clear of the "Tokio Rose" comparisons (in part because there was no one who broadcast with that name, the woman who was convicted, Iva Toguri, may have even been coerced into her broadcasts by the Japanese).

Michael Moore, like Mildred Gillars and William Joyce freely chose their sides. There are surprisingly similar sentiments expressed.

Don't let up on Michael Moore. He doesn't need to be hunted down by the authorities like a cur but he does need to be exposed for what he is. Jane Fonda was never prosecuted for treason in a time of war but few Americans doubt that she was guilty of the act (the photo of her with the North Vietnamese sitting on an anti-aircraft gun provided plenty of aid and comfort to the enemy).

12 posted on 11/05/2004 2:55:10 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: OHIOforBUSH

BTW, you can find recordings of Lord Haw Haw's final broadcast (after Hitler was dead and the troops were closing in).

He's drunk, drowning his sorrows, on the air and still vowing that the Reich will be victorious in the end.

Much like Air America, DU, and plenty of other delusional sites.


13 posted on 11/05/2004 2:57:16 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: politicalmerc

1. It is against the law for George W. Bush to run for president again.


For the last 4 years the Dem's have been saying that W wasn't elected, he was selected. Since the 22nd Amendment states a president can only be elected twice, does this count as a loop-hole?


14 posted on 11/05/2004 3:05:29 AM PST by Sapper26 ("I don't flip-flop, I pander. America deserves a President who knows the difference" JF'nK)
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To: politicalmerc
4. In spite of Bush's win, the majority of Americans still think the country is headed in the wrong direction (56%), think the war wasn't worth fighting (51%), and don't approve of the job George W. Bush is doing (52%). (Note to foreigners: Don't try to figure this one out. It's an American thing, like Pop Tarts.)

Based upon the SAME flawed/biased exit polls perhaps?

Face it you fat f***, you are in NO position to tell anyone what ANY of it means. Zogbyism is my term for the leftist media snow job. We know what "McCarthyism" and "Borking" are; now we have a use for Zogby's name just as he has been thoroughly discredited and it is about to be tossed into the dustbin of history.

15 posted on 11/05/2004 3:08:12 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Sapper26

Hillary already served 8 years as co-president (her own term). Can she still be elected to another 8 years as co-president? What about her husband Bill Clinton?

Will she have to get a divorce to run for the Presidency (to prevent him from having another 4-8 years as co-president)?


16 posted on 11/05/2004 3:10:10 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: politicalmerc

That's funny, I thought for sure cherry cheesecake would be one of them...


17 posted on 11/05/2004 3:12:51 AM PST by ez (I demand the disciples of tolerance tolerate my intolerance!)
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To: politicalmerc
The only age group in which the majority voted for Kerry was young adults (Kerry: 54%, Bush: 44%), proving once again that your parents are always wrong and you should never listen to them.

proving that people get a clue as they grow up...except you, lardass.

18 posted on 11/05/2004 3:13:50 AM PST by ez (I demand the disciples of tolerance tolerate my intolerance!)
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To: politicalmerc
8. 88% of Bush's support came from white voters. In 50 years, America will no longer have a white majority. Hey, 50 years isn't such a long time! If you're ten years old and reading this, your golden years will be truly golden and you will be well cared for in your old age.

If you are 10 years old and reading this then you have PLENTY of time to be preparing for financing your OWN "golden years" retirement. I suggest starting by studying hard in school. Save a little out of each paycheck.

The government's own retirement plan (Social Security) was never intended to be the full coverage for retirement and offers a lousy rate of return considering what you put into it. Best to save for your own future.

19 posted on 11/05/2004 3:15:47 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

Excellent questions. I guess the only solution would be to not have either of them run to avoid a Constitutional crisis.


20 posted on 11/05/2004 3:16:37 AM PST by Sapper26 ("I don't flip-flop, I pander. America deserves a President who knows the difference" JF'nK)
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To: politicalmerc
Dear Friends,

This is as far as I got before my MM distrust kicked in.

21 posted on 11/05/2004 3:19:39 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: politicalmerc

What's the theme from M*A*S*H?


22 posted on 11/05/2004 3:34:05 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS", Fake But Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: politicalmerc
14. Bush is now a lame duck president. He will have no greater moment than the one he's having this week. It's all downhill for him from here on out -- and, more significantly, he's just not going to want to do all the hard work that will be expected of him. It'll be like everyone's last month in 12th grade -- you've already made it, so it's party time! Perhaps he'll treat the next four years like a permanent Friday, spending even more time at the ranch or in Kennebunkport. And why shouldn't he? He's already proved his point, avenged his father and kicked our ass.

And you've won an Oscar. Guess you have nothing else to prove either, right Mikey? It is not all about "you". WE voted YOU and YOURS down; the President ran so that he could FINISH the job that John Kerry did not want to do (he wanted to hand the reigns over to Europe and the UN to fight both the war in Iraq and the war on terror). President Bush did not ask for the job of fighting international terrorism. But 8 years of failed policy towards terrorism (treating it as a crime when we were facing nations that sponsored terrorism) and a massive attack on our homeland demanded a response.

Saddam Hussein was a sponsor of Hamas' suicide bombers (offering payments to the families of those who blew themselves up in public). Saddam was trying to obtain weapons of mass destruction. Whether he was successful or the scientists and arms dealers were just taking his money and yanking his chain doesn't really matter. We prosecute those who hire hitmen (except Larry Flynt, who contracted a hit on Bob Guccione) no matter how lacking their skills may be to actually commit murder. We also prosecute those felons who attempt to buy firearms; Saddam Hussein was already on "probation" as a result of the Gulf War.

We still have not identified the source of the anthrax that was released on the American public in late 2001. Maybe someone in America weaponized it in his basement. Is it easy to create just a small batch or more likely that a larger quantity was produced (at least a coffee cup full)?

Since such weapons of mass destruction (biological, chemical, and nuclear) are difficult to obtain, difficult to refine, etc. it is important to take rogue nations out of the equation.

The media's poo pooing of every action in Iraq is pointless now as there is no "upside" to trashing Bush's reputation over the war. He is safe in office and it only puts the troops/civilians at risk. Time for the media's Zogbyism to stop as it only provides aid and comfort to the terrorists (and YES they are terrorists, they are not "insurgents" or "minutemen"). The Iraqis want to live in peace. The terrorists that flooded into their country from other nations are not of the homeland. Pulling out would allow them to destabilize the region just as the transitionary government comes to power.

In addition to the war on terror and the war in Iraq, there is judicial activism to fight. Laws come from state and federal senators and representatives (the Legislative branch) NOT the courts (Judicial branch). George W. Bush will get to nominate several Supreme Court Justices. This is an important decision and will be met with massive resistance by YOUR kind. This will require strategy and salesmanship.

Hardly a time to rest on laurels.

23 posted on 11/05/2004 3:34:52 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: politicalmerc
1. It is against the law for George W. Bush to run for president again.

He can run for Governor of Texas again.

Gee, it's great to be a Texan.

24 posted on 11/05/2004 3:41:39 AM PST by Flyer (Prosecute Vote Fraud!)
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To: politicalmerc
15. Should Bush decide to show up to work and take this country down a very dark road, it is also just as likely that either of the following two scenarios will happen: a) Now that he doesn't ever need to pander to the Christian conservatives again to get elected, someone may whisper in his ear that he should spend these last four years building "a legacy" so that history will render a kinder verdict on him and thus he will not push for too aggressive a right-wing agenda; or b) He will become so cocky and arrogant -- and thus, reckless -- that he will commit a blunder of such major proportions that even his own party will have to remove him from office.

He has a "legacy". He guided America through the dark days of the 9-11 attacks. The economy took a serious hit (compounding the recession inherited from the final year of the Clinton administration).

He stood tall in defiance of corrupt officials in the UN, France, Germany, and Russia. He built a coalition of support from 90 nations and went to war in Afghanistan and Iraq. Both were pitched by the left as being unwinnable wars.

The protesters said that we would lose tens of thousands of soldiers in Iraq and end up killing over a million civilians/soldiers in Iraq.

The exaggerated figure of 1,000 dead in Iraq includes over one third who did not die in combat (traffic accidents, heart attacks, pneumonia, electrocution, drownings, etc.) and a sizable number who weren't even in Iraq at the time (Germany, Kuwait, and even KANSAS crossing the highway).

The left has now claimed that there are 100,000 dead civilians in Iraq as a result of the war (claiming that until recently the number was heavily under reported, at something like 30,000).

Their projections were as bad as election night's distortions.

George W. Bush stands poised to be a conservative President standing in good company with Ronald Reagan (then again Moore hated Reagan). We do not find him to be as conservative as Mr. Reagan. Is he more socially conservative than his father? Possibly. We would like to see more fiscal conservatism from Bush43; he is pushing for limited taxation, we would still like to see a scaling back of socialism. We may not get the reduction in socialism that we seek. There is some talk of privatization but it seems that we will also be witness to some long demanded "goodies" from special interests. Once established, these "entitlements" may prove to be difficult to ween the public off of.

Illegal immigration is another issue that must be addressed. As national security becomes more important, so must border security. If it means permitting easier access to immigration (as a way of keeping tabs on those crossing the border), put it under consideration. Crime must be prosecuted. We cannot be a nation of scofflaws.

Whatever reforms we get from President Bush, we can at least breath a sigh of relief that we have averted the trainwreck that would have been a John Kerry presidency advancing the Age of Aquarius' social agenda. They don't get to load the courts. They don't get to bow to the UN.

25 posted on 11/05/2004 3:52:03 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Flyer

Maybe he'll buy a baseball team.


26 posted on 11/05/2004 3:52:48 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: politicalmerc
16. There are nearly 300 million Americans -- 200 million of them of voting age. We only lost by three and a half million! That's not a landslide -- it means we're almost there. Imagine losing by 20 million. If you had 58 yards to go before you reached the goal line and then you barreled down 55 of those yards, would you stop on the three yard line, pick up the ball and go home crying -- especially when you get to start the next down on the three yard line? Of course not! Buck up! Have hope! More sports analogies are coming!!!
How many lies did you have to tell to get there? How much did you have to spend?

Bush-Hating Groups Paid $100,000,000 an Electoral Vote

How many votes did you have to steal to get that count?

BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY? Eh, Mikey?

27 posted on 11/05/2004 4:02:03 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: politicalmerc
17. Finally and most importantly, over 55 million Americans voted for the candidate dubbed "The #1 Liberal in the Senate." That's more than the total number of voters who voted for either Reagan, Bush I, Clinton or Gore. Again, more people voted for Kerry than Reagan. If the media are looking for a trend it should be this -- that so many Americans were, for the first time since Kennedy, willing to vote for an out-and-out liberal. The country has always been filled with evangelicals -- that is not news. What IS news is that so many people have shifted toward a Massachusetts liberal. In fact, that's BIG news. Which means, don't expect the mainstream media, the ones who brought you the Iraq War, to ever report the real truth about November 2, 2004. In fact, it's better that they don't. We'll need the element of surprise in 2008.

Aw STFU, Mike. EVEN MORE PEOPLE STOOD IN LINE TO SAY "HELL, NO!" TO JOHN KERRY & JOHN EDWARDS & THE PRESS (US AND EUROPEAN). It was very satisfying and we are enjoying your pained responses struggling to make sense of "how" you could lose. You guys really don't get it. You are that out of touch. Bush Country is genuine. You are myopic. "How could he win? I don't know ANYONE who voted for him!"

Despite the Zogbyism and negativity, good triumphed over evil.

28 posted on 11/05/2004 4:06:50 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

my understanding is that they only won michicgan and pennsylvania due to voter fraud in philidelphia and detroit.

There should be significant intimidation going on. Felonies are serious.

should be a new law: US Attorneys should provide election monitors: monitor all election counts (that have federal positions up) with time registered video tape that would hold up in court. (ok CD would be find). voter fraud is a felony.

I like the UN recommendation to mark each voter with indelible ink. That would be a start.


29 posted on 11/05/2004 9:19:19 AM PST by donmeaker (Why did the Romans cross the road? To keep the slaves from revolting again.)
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To: ez
The only age group in which the majority voted for Kerry was young adults (Kerry: 54%, Bush: 44%), proving once again that your parents are always wrong and you should never listen to them.

When I was a boy of fourteen my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much he had learned in seven years.
-- Mark Twain

30 posted on 11/05/2004 9:22:51 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: donmeaker
There are security cameras in the post offices, banks, convenience stores, and even in stop lights.

I would not be one to push for "Big Brother" to add more eyes BUT it is more dangerous to allow corrupt workers at polling centers to fiddle with equipment behind closed doors to manipulate the outcome of an election.

We have learned that the "authorities" who go through luggage at the airport looking for explosives (that's it!) are stealing items (and could easily PLACE a bomb in luggage going on a plane). Cameras are helping to stop these corrupt officials.

What sort of BACKGROUND CHECKS are there for polling center workers? One reason we have problems at the airports is that we were not permitted to screen the employees.

Also we have to see a driver's license or other official ID at the polls. It is needed to write a check, drive a car, enter a bar, buy beer, buy cigarettes, and now even to use a credit card. We've all got one. The left screams because they know it would catch people in the act of vote fraud.

31 posted on 11/05/2004 11:35:36 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: politicalmerc

2. Bush's victory was the NARROWEST win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916.

14. ...He's already proved his point, avenged his father and kicked our ass.

So which is it Mike??? Was it a narrow victory or did Dubya kick your ass???? I believe it is the latter.

Michael is noMoore!!!!!!


32 posted on 11/05/2004 12:57:24 PM PST by whodeani
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To: politicalmerc

Thanks for the post. I hurt my leg trying to kick my own arse for reading it...


33 posted on 11/05/2004 1:04:49 PM PST by No_More_Harkin
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To: weegee
I live in MN, and I hate to say this, but a few of my friends are just plain ultra liberals. One of them exclaimed how the soldier you speak of that was in Farenhype 911 reminded her of a "creepy neo-nazi white power guy". I had all I could do just to keep from unloading on her... Now I hear about people asking for the blue states to join up with Canada as part of that socialist country - I say over my dead body will that happen! I refuse to be part of a wrecked society because most people in the wonderfully blue state of MN are out of their trees...

My God, this is insane! I have to deal with this garbage from my parents and siblings - it's almost too much to bear when you can't help but bump into a liberal in the state you live in, no matter where you go... I'd move if I could, but it's almost too priceless to see all the sullen and withdrawn idiots that are everywhere in this state because their guy lost!

ROFLMAO!
34 posted on 11/05/2004 1:10:23 PM PST by jurroppi1
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To: jurroppi1

The amputated soldier in FahrenHYPE 911 was injured when a tire they were inflating blew up (overinflation).

Now it was a tragedy and the men served their country. I put no blame on their actions as to their injuries. The left however is lying throught THEIR teeth when they try to pin that death and dismemberment as being "Bush's fault; Bush lied - people died". Such an accident can occur ANYWHERE in the world on a military base.

Over one third of the deaths on the infamous "1,000 dead - Bush's fault" list were in non-combat situations.

The left does not care about these soldiers. They want them just to be a number, a statistic. And a photo op of a coffin draped corpse (or better still a photo of a dead body, something we NEVER saw from the 9-11 attacks as it was considered "too insensitive" to the families).


35 posted on 11/05/2004 1:23:19 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Vindibudd
Look closely at this...


36 posted on 11/05/2004 2:07:24 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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Since Mike likes sports analogies I have one. Considering John Kerry had the MSM, George Soros, NPR, and Michael Moore on his side, if this presidential race was a football game, Dubya would have been a 20 point road underdog and still whipped the lefties butts. Where would be Democrats without the MSM and Michael Moore on their side spewing the garbage they put out? They may have lost the EC 350-188.


37 posted on 11/05/2004 2:25:06 PM PST by whodeani
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To: politicalmerc
"It's always good to have more blacks in there fighting for us and doing the job our candidates can't."

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No further comment necessary. Your Honor, the defense rests.

38 posted on 11/05/2004 2:27:55 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: weegee
The left does not care about these soldiers. They want them just to be a number, a statistic. And a photo op of a coffin draped corpse (or better still a photo of a dead body, something we NEVER saw from the 9-11 attacks as it was considered "too insensitive" to the families).

You make an extremely good point!

39 posted on 11/05/2004 7:10:32 PM PST by Netizen
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To: whodeani
For a FAINT idea of just how biased (and coordinated) the news items were this year, take a look at the headlines/links in post #100 of this thread:

Left Activists Plans to Attempt a Bush Impeachment

I just spent a couple hours culling them. Maybe I'll put together something on my profile page in the coming months.

40 posted on 11/05/2004 7:19:22 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: politicalmerc


Now now... we don't need to resort to name calling....the worse we make his name, the less leeway he has to embarrass himself further.

That scene with the interview with Charleton Heston was unnecessarily cruel. You just shouldn't do that to a guy with Alzheimer's.


41 posted on 04/19/2005 12:05:41 PM PDT by Gava
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To: weegee

"..as it was considered ";too insensitive" to the families)." Did they really say that? Ignoring their sacrifice is as "insensitive" as anything can get. The equivalent, if not worse, of causing them to make the sacrifice. But it's important to realize that not everyone in the coalition is noble, there are still a hand full of monsters in the US military, mostly corrupt officers and senators. However, Bush is doing a pretty good job at fighting this back. If nothing else, this is one thing that he'll be praised for. From what I've seen, there isn't nearly as much inhuman behavior on the part of the US as there was in Vietnam. It's all kept public, no secret assaults. Thankfully we can avoid another Mai Lai. We have caused civilian casualties but that's primarily the problem of misusing technology. Firing 20mm shells from helicopters and dropping 4 ton bombs at scurrying ground troops is risky (a major understatement). Using this firepower in crowded cities is a big no-no. Any US colonel or general worth his salt would tell you so. That "Shock and Awe" business in Baghdad was a huge mistake. This issue needs to be brought up with the defense board and tactical advisory if it hasn't already. War, by its own nature, can't be perfect.


42 posted on 04/19/2005 12:29:43 PM PDT by Gava
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