Posted on 11/09/2004 10:47:29 AM PST by www.hunderdpercenter.com
My original article was going to show the difference between comments made on conservative and liberal blogs, regarding the Battle of Fallujah. Most Americans view the Battle of Fallujah as a defining moment in the fight against the terrorists in Iraq.
I started viewing some of the Democrat blogs like Dailykos, and Bop News, and then I came across Democraticunderground.com.
After reading the comments on that website, my blood was boiling and my hair was raised. Immediately, I erased all the other Anti-American/ Anti- Bush comments that I had compiled from the other liberal sites.
Dummocraticunderground stole the show.
After reading the anti-American, treasonous, seditious comments on Democraticunderground, I became convoluted about unlimited free speech. We all enjoy free speech.But, should it be used to advocate the killing of U.S. troops at war?
You decide...
The U.S Government defines a Terrorist Organization as a group that "advocates destruction of the United States"
Description of DemocraticUnderground from website:
"...DU has become one of the premier left-wing websites on the Internet, publishing original content six days a week, and hosting one of the Web's most active left-wing discussion boards."
Marines turn to God ahead of anticipated Fallujah battle (comments from above article)
"they might as well drink kool-aid. I guess they have to turn to something, doesn't sound like their leaders have much on the ball."
"its a f*cking crusade. God is not going to bless this. God does not bless murders of human beings in wars based on lies."
"Lots of simple, rustic, ignorant, young men and women from Jesusland Are about to become Shredded Hash for the Halliburton and Bush Criminals."
"may they get what they deserve"
"Here here! Agreed!"
"What do you mean by that? Don't be coy, just come out and say it" (the only poster who questioned advocating the killing of American Troops)
"We should praise for more blood bath God help the innocent Iraqi civilians"
"I'm speechless with anger. They want a little light amusement before they get down to the serious business of murdering and destroying."
"Yes, just like at Abu Ghraib 'just having us some fun' "
"They're ABOUT to re-enact the "City of Hue" battle of '68 where 140 marines died to "free" another city from another 'evil'. "
"Well, they can't appear sensitive to the enemy... Our army has gone insane... bringing the image of the ROMANS to Iraq!"
"at least it must help the saner Marines be less afraid of dying,because they realize if they get killed they at least won't have to be around these fanatic pea-brains anymore"
"God will bless the meek and the innocents that will lose thier lives"
"Poor Iraqi civilians....100,000 of them dead and still counting Dear God!"
"Evangelicals put blessed oil on their heads for protection."
"If they want to pretend it's the second crusades, what the heck, let 'em do it. It's not too far from the truth anyway. May their Screamin' Jesus spare the remaining civilians from bullets and shrapnel and napalm fire."
"They have always done this They are full of sh*t, but it makes them feel better that their soul will go to heaven when they get snuffed out by an Iraqi national who is attempting to liberate himself from US colonial control."
"Lawd, give me the strength to bomb little babies in your name, amen."
"Not my problem anymore. F*ck 'em. If they want to pray, go for it. If they die, too bad, but not my problem anymore. They have the choice not to fight, they choose to fight and support the emperor Bush. Too bad."
"They better pray After all the innocent lives they are about to take, it will take a lifetime of prayer to wash themselves clean of their sins and save themselves from Hell. That is, assuming they survive this little Crusade of theirs."
"Sick, sick, sick..... these people are sick. If one of them dies, how do the rest rationalize his death? Well, let's see...he didn't pray enough...he didn't pray the right way.....Gawd had to pick and choose which prayers he/she would answer.....I'm tellin' ya' - these fundies are wacko."
"Careful This board doesn't allow you to feel compassionate about the Military"
"This whole spectacle reminds me that they are no different than jihadists and Islamic fundamentalists. They are the same creatures."
Iran Says Will Retaliate if Nuclear Plants Hit (comments from above article)
"IRAN has THREE submarines..... All it takes is one to destroy an aircraft carrier...."
"Iran could beat the U.S. Navy and this is how The U.S. Navy currently sends it's warships through the Strait of Hormuz. This is a very tight choke hole. If the Iranian could sink a Carrier in the Straits of Hormuz, the U.S. Navy would be sitting ducks over time in the Gulf. "
"Iran's modern missiles can do plenty damage, no system is fool-proof.Iran can't take out the US fleet, but they can cause plenty damage and nuisance to US supply lines in the Gulf."
"I hope they nuke US forces. Maybe that'll teach us. They have a right to defend themselves from our imperialist advances, and we have a right to a non-Holocaust mindset in our government."
"Handle your business Iran. Do what you gotta do!"
"Bring it on It's a terrible thing to say, but I find myself rooting for the Axis of Evil."
There you have it. Now if that is not seditious speech, then there is no such thing.
Is there a limit to Freedom of Speech? If so, what do you think should happen to that website? Would it be a dangerous precedent for the Government to act upon terrorist sympathisers, such as DemocraticUnderground.com?
I have mixed feelings. On one hand I realize that the comments were probably posted by some hippie-drug addict- 1960's burn-outs, who hate America, and are harmless. On the other hand, I feel that it is the administrators responsibility to filter out such comments.
If it were up to me, I'd have the owner, David Allen, arrested for inciting violence against U.S soldiers. Period.
Perhaps the IRS should look into Mr. David Allen's tax returns. I wonder if Mr. Allen is claiming all of the donations he receives from his loyal traitors. Hmmm...
Mr. Allen's contact information David Allen Democratic Underground P.O. Box 53350 Washington, DC 20009
I visited DU for just about the very first time right after the "missing explosives" story hit the NYT and then the web.
They were all up at arms about how Bush had endangered the troops by not protecting the ammo dumps (after all even Kerry said it!!) and they (troops) were going to be SO MAD! Their blood was on Bush's hands!
They were shaking the story around like some stupid fig leaf "for the troops." This is the same website, among others, that think the 4 contractors who were massacred in Fallujah in April "deserved it", as "mercenaries."
They have no love "for the troops", never have anymore than their appointed icon Michael Moore does.
That's probably the sickest thing I've ever read. You think he might have a change of heart if it were his head under the machete?
Let them speak. Then one day, after the troops come home, let's see what happens when one of them says some of this stuff to the face of a marine who participated in the liberation of Iraq.
Is this a surprise? Liberals only care about winning, now that they lost they show their true America-hating colors.
All you have to do to shut these people up is the following:
1. Ask them if they've ever been in the military. When they so no, explain to them that the US military does far more good than destruction. Use Somalia and Bosnia as examples. These actions were when Bill Clinton was in office so they'll say that was the proper use of the military.
2. Explain to them that the same marines, saliors and soldiers who are fighting in Iraq did those missions under Bill Clinton.
3. Break down the structure of the military and the fact that it's under civilian control and that we're not a third world country because our guys follow orders.
4. Ask them if they care about death and destruction so much why they haven't protested before. If they have a mock "memorial" ask them why they didn't do it before if they care so deeply about our guys.
5. They'll be confused by logic now, and probably screaming and insulting you. Try to get a violent reaction.
6. Work the body, then go to the head. (Just kidding)
There are no such words as "sedition" or "treason."
HMMMMMM Just went over there and they are having problems with their site. Verrry Interesting!
I served two tours in Vietnam. The second tour ended in wounds serious enough to make walking difficult for many months. I was met by a crowd that were the predcessors to the DU nutts and subjected to spitting, verbal abuse, and even a thrown punch.
Today I am the father of two Marines in Iraq with the equal amounts of pride and fear that brings. One of them is this minute in Fallujah.
I refuse to allow myself to dwell on people like the DU crowd. They pretend that the election isn't over, develop make believe theories on why the election didn't go their way while offering no alternatives or ideas of their own.
Freedom is worth defending whether it makes the DU happy or not. And thats all there is to say about that.
Amen to that!!! God Bless & Protect your sons, and thank you sir for your service to our country!!
My God. These are our countrymen and women? They are encouraging Iranians to kill my husband and I'm supposed to reach out to them and make peace? Well, they can forget it. They are the enemy. They are no different from the Islamofascists. Actually, they are worse.
It's against the law to kill a human being .....any one have a link that "defines" human being as I think DU has provided an argument and a loophole with these fine examples we can work around....
This seditious trash works under the label of democrat yet they are lower than a democrat. They are really lower than whale shit in the Marianas Trench yet they continue to infest and disrupt a modern America.
Doom on all who support these anarchist turdburglers !
Focusing on the people at DU is like focusing the ball boy for the team that lost a game.
The DU people are not even relevant to the losers!
I just wish they really cared about the massive killing ..... of babies every year. Oops, sorry, got logical, my bad.
Round them up and herd them to Canada in the winter time.
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING
John Edwards wife admitted on C-Span a few weeks ago that she visits DU. Sounds like she's right at home there.
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Thanks for the ping. I could only read so far before nausea forced me to stop. Why aren't some of the media sources covering this? Why aren't the Feds monitoring the DU site? These people are, as the person who posted this said, terrorists and quite possibly pose a danger.
Should some peace idiot spit on me on saturday I will NOT hold back like I did 31 years ago. I've had 31 years to reconsider and regret my in-action back then.
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