Posted on 01/21/2005 6:01:58 PM PST by PJ-Comix
One great way to get your post count up to the magic 1000 in DUmmieland is to go into the DUmmie Lounge and post in one of the many non-political discussions. It is much easier to get your post count up this way than to join one of the political discussions since you are much less likely to “out” yourself. As an example, let us join in this DUmmie Star Trek THREAD titled, “Captain Pike was an idiot.” So let us Beam Down to DUmmieland to observe this Star Trek episode. Of course, any crew member joining us in this adventure named Ensign Smith is sure to DIE so you might as well start building his casket now. The Klingon DUmmie rantings are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, with his Phaser set on Stun, is in the [brackets]:
Captain Pike was an idiot. Here he is, on a planet with a woman who is HOT HOT HOT!, and is hot in many different forms, and yet he insists on getting back to the Enterprise. And yeah, Vina, in real life, is a horribly deformed yucko; but the Talosians can make her into anything! And what they make her into is HOT HOT HOT!
[God Bless those Talosians. I only wish they could have worked their magic on a few blind dates I had in the past. One in particular looked just like Nikita Khruschev in drag with a horrible garlic stench on her breath. The Talosians could have made her look like the young version of Sophia Loren but could they also have gotten rid of that horrible breath?]
Hubby and I have discussed this as well. Odd that I agree w/ you, yet he would not
[Maybe your hubby was thinking of calling up the Talosians to give YOU a major makeover.]
I totally agree.....Why go back to the Enterprise, when you can be with that hottie. Plus the fact that the Talosians can make her look hot forever. I would have said, " F**K the Enterprise, I'm staying here!"
[An interesting thing about those Talosians is that they seemed like big headed gay aliens. Perhaps the Talosians were the forerunners to the “Queer Eye” series. Nothing against the Talosians, of course, but I would prefer NOT to enter any Talosian bars. Not that there is anything wrong with being a Talosian.]
You're still right, though - if he'd stayed when he had the chance, he wouldn't have had that accident, and wouldn't have had to go back to the planet. he could have stayed with the hottie, never knowing what she really looked like, and lived a life of sexual bliss and harmony.
[That was a two-part episode, The Menagerie. One of my faves. However, I got a bigger kick out of the episode where Spock had to have sex once every seven years or he would go crazy.]
Of course he was an idiot. That's why they replaced him with the best ST captain ever: James T. Kirk!
[I don’t know about acting but I will admit that Kirk can sing Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds better.]
Yeah, I'm glad they knocked him off and put in Kirk. Kirk was way better! Though I wish Majel could have stayed in her role - she was a hottie, and should have gotten more time on screen in that awesome outfit. She wasn't so interesting as Nurse Chapel.
[At least Gene Roddenberry got to shtoop Nurse Chapel on a regular basis.]
Only when Vina regained consciousness... that's when their fun began! It's a great story all the same...And to think, it's Spock (and not Kirk) who had the idea of getting Pike back to Talos 4 so he could get jiggy with Vina...
[Although Spock only had sex once every seven years, he was also an extreme voyeur. Think Spock wasn’t watching the Pike/Vina action on his viewfinder? Which reminds me, with all that advanced Star Trek technology, how come no X-Rated DVDs on board?]
Jeffrey Hunter was a *terrible* actor...I watched "Menagerie" in recent years, and was struck by just how unutterably awful he was. Shatner looks like a genius in comparison.
[You don’t like Jeffrey Hunter as a Star Trek captain? Fine. But he was THE definitive Jesus and didn’t play the part with an accent like that heathen furriner, Max Von Sydow.]
Did you ever see Hunter play Jesus! I can't even remember the name of the movie -- I couldn't take it.
[Either King of Kings or The Greatest Story Ever Told. I get them confused. And I have accepted Jeffrey Hunter in my heart as the ONE TRUE HOLLYWOOD Jesus.]
Picard wasn't any better. See, only Kirk is da' man here!
[True. I just couldn’t accept Chrome Dome Picard as a Star Trek captain. However, he did portray a great Lenin on Materpiece Theater’s Fall Of Eagles.]
He didn't want to be a captive and a guinea pig. It was only after he was imprisoned in his own body that he realized what he'd given up. Fortunately for him, he got a rare second chance for happiness.
[Yeah. I remember Pike was stuck inside of a metal box contraption. He looked like he was halfway into a coma and the only way he could communicate was with a light on the contraption. One blink meant “Yes,” and Two blinks meant “No.” Or was it the reverse? Or was that all communicated via red and green lights? I hate to say this but Ross Perot’s 1992 running mate reminded me an awful lot of Pike in the metal box.]
PING!
3rd...
OOhh, boy.
The Captain has left the bridge.
I salute you, sir; not the usual politics, but the usual craftsmanship and wit we have come to expect.
Funny, I thought the DUmmies would've loved Prime Directive Picard.
Welcome aboard, PINGEE #573.
I read a Star Trek autobiography by the actress who played the part of Uhura. She mentioned that William Shatner came to her to get info for his own Star Trek book and remembered how chummy the actors used to be. The Uhura actress contradicted Shatner and told Shatner that everyone HATED him.
No surprise the DUmmies think it is about sex.
I remember there was one Star Trek actress (I think only on one or two episodes) who ended up as a HARD CORE porno actress.
Well....when you get down to Earth...
Angelique Pettyjohn. She did tours of Star Trek conventions and that question ALWAYS came up.
While I understand that this conversation was meant to be frivolous and funny it still is revealing. These guys have no concept of responsibility, duty, or honor. They would be more concerned with sexual bliss than the fact that Pike was the Captain of a warship.
But then what do you expect from a crowd of ancient hippies and their stoned out progeny.
[Either King of Kings or The Greatest Story Ever Told. I get them confused. And I have accepted Jeffrey Hunter in my heart as the ONE TRUE HOLLYWOOD Jesus.]
Huh? What about Jim Caviezel?
Wait.....ok..I wasn't punished for "wrong thinking"....So I think so..
Amazing. Even when discussing the most inane subject the DUmmies Think fantasy is preferable fo harsh reality.
On an interesting side note last nights episode of Futurama was a crossover between "menagerie" and an episode with a planet where a pure energy being kept a stranded scientist happy.
He didn't speak English the way Jeffrey Hunter did.
LOL!
Wesley's mom was hot....
Tasha Yar was a honey but she was getting some robo bumpin from Data.
Which captain was he?
Was it my imagination or were there two types of Talosian voices? Sometimes the voices sounded normal and sometimes they were high pitch. Also Spock, while serving under Pike, seemed to have an ATTITUDE problem. Very unlike the calm Spock who served under Kirk.
You lost me at "hello".
Who are these people? Pike? Who? What?
Nevermind...
I don't mean to be like a DUmmie and read politics into everything in the world, but...you notice how most of the DUmmies would like to be in a prison for life as long as they had a hot chick available? Freedom just isn't important to these people, so it's no wonder they don't care if the Iraqis get freed.
P.J., sir, don't you think this is a classic example of old fogies over in DUmmieland trying to pose as young kids?
The word "hottie" is a dead giveaway; a word an adult might think a kid uses, but does not.
I have never known of a kid to utter that word; I have only ever known of adults trying to act like kids utter that word.
(Caution: I could be wrong; I am describing this from personal experience, which might or might not be common experience.)
So these DUmmies are acting like a bunch of high-school Trekkies, but I bet most of them are washed-up hippies and hippos in their 40s, 50s, and even early 60s; the sorts old enough to remember when the color on the original "Star Trek" was not as sharp as it later became (and so we are talking the late 1960s, here).
I bet most of these are old washed-up farts.
I have a few words for DU talking about Star Trek.
MR. SCOTT, GENERAL OREDER 24, IN TWO HOURS, TWO HOURS!!!
[Which captain was he?]
In reference to "true Hollywood Jesus", Jim Caviezel would have been Cap'n Jesus in Mel Gibson's "Passion of the Christ"
All right. Now these peabrains think they're gonna start screwing around with STAR TREK. I don't think so, DUmbasses.
Had you short-busser sadsacks the mental capacity to really understand the episode, you'd have understood that "The Cage" was in fact an allegory for the sad little lives led by you, the denizens of Democratic Underground, mainly, an examination of what happens to a society when it chooses to wallow in illusion and fantasy rather than going out into the world and dealing with life as it actually is. The Talosians had basically nuked their entire planet uncounted centuries before and were forced underground; instead of rebuilding their civilization as best they could, they concentrated on enhancing their mental abilities, to the point that they could exist in total illusion rather than live in the real world. Pike, meanwhile, was frustrated with his life and responsibilities as a starship captain, and himself nearly fell victim to the hide-myself-away mentality by considering chucking his entire career and running off to become an Orion slave trader. It was his experience with the illusionists on Talos, and his encounter with Vina -- who could not deal with returning to society in her disfigured state -- that convinced him that he had to continue along his chosen path and contend with all the challenges it threw his way, which meant going back to the Enterprise and not resigning his commission. Jeez, did Pike's conversation with Dr. Boyce not illuminate any of this for you? Did you not remember Boyce's words that "a man either lives life as it happens to him, meets it head-on and licks it.... or turns his back on it and starts to wither away." Retreating with Vina into a world of illusion would have been the easy path to take. But then, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you low-life lily-livered lemon-sucking leftists would want him to choose that option, because your whole lives are dedicated to taking the easy way out of things, aren't they?
Christopher Pike would gladly have taken the time to ram a Starfleet-issue boot up the behinds of every last one of you. Even after he'd been horribly crippled by delta radiation in his heroic rescue of cadets on a training mission, he'd have gotten right out of that automated life-support wheelchair and WALKED, just as if John Kerry had been elected, and he'd have walked right up to all of YOU, and then we'd have seen who the real idiots were, wouldn't we, honchos?
You children all make me sick. STAR TREK is clearly beyond your collective grasp. Go back to your episodes of "Lost in Space". Or better yet, stick to that watered-down touchy-feely "The Next Generation" crap; that show seems to be more your speed.
Oh, and by the way, George Bush is still president.
-Dan 
Great analysis, sir; that was what I was getting out of it (I never paid much attention to television)--some sort of story with a moral to the effect that we should do what we have to do, rather than what we wish to do, or like to do.
<<never seen any washed up old farts here.
Maybe perhaps possibly not young, or maybe perhaps possibly not redolent of pleasant perfume, but definitely not "washed up."
The difference between a FReeper and a DUmmie is that a FReeper is an optimist, a person full of hope, while a DUmmie wallows in his own swill of regret that his "time" passed more than 30 years ago, and he is rapidly becoming extinct.
"that heathen furriner, Max Von Sydow.]"
Played evil Brewmeister Schmidt in the funniest of all movies, Strange Brew!
It ALWAYS happened. Kirk, Spock, Bones, and an Ensign Smith would beam down to a hostile planet. Guess which one ALWAYS got killed?
Man, no kidding. The themes of responsibility, duty, and honor, the question of "what maketh a man?", were at the very core of "The Cage", and yet the only thing these snickering jackasses get out of the episode is "man, I'd abandon my ship and crew to get some from the hot chick on Talos!" Not coincidentally, this notion of pursuing personal gain at the expense of the people one has served with exactly sums up John Kerry's career.
-Dan
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VOYEUR
While I don't know if it was "hardcore" Dyanne Thorne, who was in the episode "Piece of the action" ,appeared in the Illsa She Wolf of the SS series of films.
The reason I don't know if it is "hardcore" is becaue I never seen it...really, I didn't! I PROMISE!!!!
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