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Dr. Rice and the Sin of Subjugation
An American Expat in Southeast Asia ^ | 21 May 2005 | expatguy

Posted on 05/21/2005 9:44:15 AM PDT by expatguy

"The Basic Law provides that the Islamic holy book the Koran and the Sunna (tradition) of the Prophet Muhammad are the country's Constitution."

U.S. State Department - Saudi Arabia, 25 February 2004

This is not merely a book, nor simply an instrument of the faith for those of the Islamic faith that we as Americans have been asked to hold in high regard, but the Constitution of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Not only Saudi Arabia, the country of Afghanistan prior to their fall and several other countries even now including Iran's laws are based partially or fully according the Quran.

It is very difficult for many Americans and Westerners to fully comprehend that the precepts of the Quran were intended to be a sufficient code of law for all Muslims throughout the world. To Muslims the Quran is a sacred object held up in reverence, a code of laws not inspired by God as the Bible and the Talmud are, but in essence, they are believed by Muslims to be the very word of God. It therefore should go without saying that to all Muslims, the government, civilized society and the congregation of the faithful are all coextensive.

The very word "Islam" itself means "submission" and not peace. It should be therfore become painfully obvious that freedom and liberty, that very creed for which all Americans live by are in actuality the antagonist of Islam.

The disgraceful and treasonous comments by Dr. Condoleeza Rice now being shamefully displayed on State Department websites worlwide are indicative of just how sick and amoral our society has become that we would pander to resurgent militant Islam in the hopes of somehow propitiating our perpetually offended adversaries. Have we become so blinded by the fog of "political correctness" that as a nation that we have failed to recognize that the very concepts of multiculturalism and diversity are in actuality nothing more than a pernicious form of relativism that culminates ironically into a new form of intolerance. An intolerance to both freedom and democracy. We have seen this before in our history Dr. Rice, in 1939 it was know as fascism.

That eternal aphorism spoken by Franklin Delano Roosevelt rings just as true today as it did back then. "No man can tame a tiger into a kitten by stroking it. There can be no appeasement with ruthlessness. There can be no reasoning with an incendiary bomb."

We are Americans Dr. Rice. We are a free people and don't you ever forget that.

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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: USF

Islam might be best described as the ultimate malignant virus; first it devours the culture medium, then the container, then itself.

Sunni must kill all the Shia, whom they state are beneath dogs and do not deserve to live. Islam wins, all 'infidels' are dead. The world will be the possession of the victor, the victor establishes the Caliphate. Then they fight over that! Muslims kill muslims. Then there will be Peace! Everybody dies...

All except the indigenous hillfolk in South America, the Kogi 'indians' who believe we will destroy each other and their mission is to help their 'little brothers'.

Tribes of the Amazon: http://www.crystalinks.com/amazontribes.html

Muslims are barbarians living in the 21st Century. There are natives wearing penis gourds and feathers in their hair in Papua with deeper spiritual values than are to be found in the entire toilet-paper koran. But the muslims are killing them as well:

AN INTRODUCTION TO THE GENOCIDE http://www.converge.org.nz/wpapua/human-rights.html

Dr. Kees Lagerberg reported that an estimated 300,000 people had disappeared without trace. This is an awful lot of people in anybody's language, but it is more horrific if one considers that the estimated population of the territory was about 700,000 in the early 1960, and about one million in the 1980's, when Dr. Lagerberg made the claim. Thus 30% of the population has simply vanished from the face of this earth. A small portion of this could be explained, the aerial bombardment claimed 80,000 lives, exile and refugees at its highest [ 1984-1985] totaled 13,000, known massacres 13,000, that totals roughly 106,000. So, where did the remainder go?

I believe that islam has been the death of more of mankind than the Black Death. And it's going on all over the planet as we sit here. Millions in the Sudan right now. How many in East Timor? How many in Papua? No one knows...


22 posted on 05/21/2005 6:29:59 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: Damien-OmenBoy
You don't understand Damien-OmenBoy...this ain't a debating society. I have passed judgement on you...so go away.
23 posted on 05/21/2005 6:30:25 PM PDT by Cornpone
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To: Damien-OmenBoy
Welcome Back Mr_Bovinity! Have Fun:)
26 posted on 05/21/2005 6:38:59 PM PDT by Cornpone
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To: Damien-OmenBoy
"After all, Good and Evil are only viewpoints."

So that makes the Ten Commandments obsolete, frivolous nonsense I guess?
27 posted on 05/21/2005 6:47:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: Damien-OmenBoy
Why you have totally ignored the questions in my previous post? As you seek to engage me in conversation, I would appreciate a reply to all the points I raised above before you raise further ones.

5. Did you read THE AGENDA OF ISLAM - A WAR BETWEEN CIVILIZATIONS?

Or WHAT THE QURAN TEACHES?

Any comments on the points raised there too?

After you have answered that, I would appreciate it if you can fell me in a Little more, re, your last reply:

6. Instead of doing that, he started a war that cannot be won, but only prolonged for as long as they want.

a. Who is "they?"

b. What proof do you have that "they" seek to prolong it for as long as "they" want. What is the end game for "they," what would yours be, how would it be different and how would you achieve it? Details please.

7. People that preach hate are all over this earth, it's not only Muslims, Christians are just as guilty....

I refer you again to point #1, and #4a, and #4b.

8. I believe God has many names. I believe we are all his children, and I believe what Jesus said about having no other fathers before God. God is in all of us.

And after noting your comment here,your chosen faith, and "version" of God would be?

9. Why preach the hatred and destruction of another group of people if you yourself proclaim you are Christian?

Ummmm.... now you've totally lost me. Chapter and verse please.

10. This world is violent, bloody, and it always will be as long as we argue over the name of God.

Which leads me back to my point.. I don't care if someone is Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Hindu, Sikh, Taoist, Agnostic whatever.. its an bigoted and intolerant ideology that we are at war with. Darul Harb... Darul Islam? Following the example of a warmongering and genocidal rapist ring any bells yet? Perhaps if I was a little clearer.. JIHAD?

29 posted on 05/21/2005 6:52:37 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Fred Nerks; Damien-OmenBoy
Excellent post Fred!

Now, Damien-OmenBoy (referring to Freds Post):

11. Do you see a problem yet?

31 posted on 05/21/2005 6:56:12 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Damien-OmenBoy
"After all, Good and Evil are only viewpoints."

Well, if that is the case then Jesus wouldn't mind coming back...after all he would only be a view point.

"Jesus would not approve of whats become of this place, and it's no wonder he hasn't come back yet. This world has learned nothing from him. It's just as bloody and angry and hateful as it was in his day."

Why would he not approve, "after all, Good and Evil are only viewpoints"?

32 posted on 05/21/2005 6:58:43 PM PDT by Chgogal
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To: Damien-OmenBoy; Fred Nerks
They feel like we are the "evil" ones. We in turn see them as "evil" ... but who's really the evil ones?

As you have not answered all my points above.. I would like to toss up a few words/phrases for you to consider for now:

"innocent civilians"

"target"

"intent"

"submission or death"

"dhimmitude"

"darul harb"

33 posted on 05/21/2005 7:02:25 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: USF

I think he's gone...


34 posted on 05/21/2005 7:05:12 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: Damien-OmenBoy; Cornpone; Fred Nerks; Chgogal
Looks like someone just got a ZOT!

LOL... its been great tagging with y'all.

Many thanks to all of you. Great team work. ;o)

35 posted on 05/21/2005 7:07:09 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: USF

LOL, it's been a pleasure.


36 posted on 05/21/2005 7:08:50 PM PDT by Chgogal
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To: USF

Great work USF...Cornpone


37 posted on 05/21/2005 7:09:09 PM PDT by Cornpone
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To: USF; All

Hey, we landed on that steaming pile of BSh*te like a hive of angry wasps and while he was still saying 'love one another' someone pulled the rug out from under him! It's a worry isn't it? How many others are out there like him, with about as much spine as a rotten jellyfish? Joined May 20, 2005, says he's not religious and suddenly he's best mates with You Know Who.

Fee fi fo fun - do I smell the blood of a mohammadun?


39 posted on 05/21/2005 7:21:00 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: sinister-six; USF; Chgogal

Thanks..


40 posted on 05/21/2005 7:21:51 PM PDT by Cornpone
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