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Something from Nothing Dept.: Can a Divide-and-Conquer Strategy Climb Mt. Improbable?
Creation-Evolution Headlines ^ | 6/20/2005 | Creation-Evolution Headlines

Posted on 06/21/2005 3:51:52 PM PDT by bondserv

Something from Nothing Dept.: Can a Divide-and-Conquer Strategy Climb Mt. Improbable?    06/20/2005
Darwinian evolution from the most primitive organisms to the most advanced must have produced huge increases in functional information (see 06/12/2003 entry).  Yet finding specific genetic mechanisms for just how DNA succeeded in “climbing Mt. Improbable,” as Richard Dawkins termed it in his book of the same name, has been daunting.  In a recent paper in PNAS,1 Austin L. Hughes meant to encourage his fellow Darwinists that explaining the origin of new function in proteins has been given a boost by recent findings.  In the body of the article, however, he appears to have conceded more than he won.  He began,

Evolutionary biologists agree that gene duplication has played an important role [sic; intelligent design term] in the history of life on Earth, providing a supply of novel genes that make it possible for organisms to adapt to new environments.  The existence of diverse multigene families, particularly in eukaryotes, provides evidence [sic] that numerous events of gene duplication followed by functional diversification have shaped [sic; intelligent design term] genomes as we know them.  But it is less certain how this panoply of new functions actually arises, leaving room for ingenious speculation but not much rigor.  Cases where we can reconstruct with any confidence the evolutionary steps involved in the functional diversification are relatively few.   (Emphasis added in all quotes.)
To switch from gloom to hope, he described an investigation by Tocchini-Valentini et al. that examined genes for tRNA endonuclease among three branches of Archaea.  Two of them contained a single gene that combined the functions of stabilization and catalysis, but a third subdivided the functions between two genes.  They feel this is an example of subfunctionalization (see 10/24/2003 entry); i.e., a case of a multi-function gene splitting sometime in evolutionary history into separate genes that carry on the original functions separately.  Hughes was glad to hear about this report, which to him was “particularly welcome as a concrete example of how new protein functions can arise.”  Yet this would seem to be merely a case of rearranging functions rather than originating new ones, i.e., of dividing without necessarily conquering.  Did he provide any examples of new functions arising by this process?
    The rest of article only elaborates on the theme of subfunctionalization.  Hughes presented various theories, by Ohno, Jensen, Orgel and others, about how gene duplication might have shared and diversified functions among ancestral genomes (see 05/15/2005 entry for another recent example).  He talked about “gene sharing,” in which a gene might produce multiple products depending on the context: i.e., an enzyme in one type of cell, but a crystallin in the eye, but this also begs the question about where the genetic information came from.  He speculated about how subfunctionalization might produce better-adapted proteins by the “Babe Ruth effect” – analogous to how the famous baseball player performed better as either a pitcher or outfielder/hitter, but not both simultaneously – yet did not prove that subfunctionalized proteins either contained more information or did a better job.
    What is more revealing in Hughes’ commentary are statements he made about evolutionary theory, evidence and proof.  Coming from someone who accepts evolution without hesitation, these remarks cast doubt on both the methodology and achievement of an evolutionary approach to genetics: In his concluding paragraph, Hughes made it clear that the proof is left as an exercise:
Testing this hypothesis will require work at the interface of molecular evolutionary genetics and systems biology.  We will need to be able to understand the diversification of gene duplicates in terms of the totality of each gene’s role in cellular processes.  It is a tall order given our present knowledge, but this kind of evolutionary systems biology not only will increase our understanding [sic] of how new protein functions evolve but also will shed essential light on why biological systems work the way they do.

1Austin L. Hughes, “Gene duplication and the origin of novel proteins,” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences USA, published online before print June 13, 2005, 10.1073/pnas.0503922102.
This article sounded intriguing by its title, “Gene duplication and the origin of novel proteins,” and ostensibly set out to explain how new functions arose – but it did nothing of the sort.  All Hughes could identify by observation were degradation effects.  If genes and proteins underwent subfunctionalization, the function was already operative in the ancestor, as well as the information needed to produce function.  Did he prove that the daughter products contained more information?  No.  Did he prove that subfunctionalization actually occurred, rather than being created that way?  No.  Did he give away the store?  Yes.
    Hughes illustrated for the perceptive reader that Darwinian theory is useless and bankrupt.  It has produced little else than dangerous facile generalizations with exceptions for every proposed rule.  He has cast doubt on whether natural selection, the evolutionary mechanism that made Charlie the Philosopher-King of Science, acts as anything more than a conservative process to preserve existing information.  He tossed in for free a few falsifications of his colleagues’ speculative hypotheses.  He made up a just-so story about molecular Babe Ruths without proving it has any relevance to real genes and proteins.  He demonstrated that evolutionary biology is an unending series of falsified tales, and he admitted that after “a century and a half of evolutionary biology,” almost nothing is known and everything remains to be discovered, which is “a tall order given our present knowledge” (better, lack of it).  So much for the origin of novel proteins.
    We provided extensive quotes from this paper to illustrate a recurring theme in the evolutionary scientific literature: Darwinists boast much but deliver nothing, only emptiness and confusion.  Does this vain litany of excuses and leaps in the dark deserve to be enshrined as the only valid approach to science, such that no student should be allowed to criticize it or hear any alternatives?


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1 posted on 06/21/2005 3:51:52 PM PDT by bondserv
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To: Elsie; AndrewC; jennyp; lockeliberty; RadioAstronomer; LiteKeeper; Fester Chugabrew; ...

Ping to interesting revelations!

We've been told the evidence is rock solid fact. Questionable would be a more accurate characterization.


2 posted on 06/21/2005 3:54:16 PM PDT by bondserv (Creation sings a song of praise, Declaring the wonders of Your ways †)
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To: PatrickHenry

Pingaling?


3 posted on 06/21/2005 3:57:34 PM PDT by narby
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To: narby

No.


4 posted on 06/21/2005 3:59:58 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: bondserv

Thanks for the ping! Good stuff as always.


5 posted on 06/21/2005 4:16:34 PM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory. Lots of links on my homepage...)
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To: bondserv

The opposition refuses to engage. It's the possum strategy, except that the possum is not acting.


6 posted on 06/21/2005 4:21:38 PM PDT by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: bondserv

We may need to add a few billion more years to evolutionary history just to make this punctuated 150 years of unparalleled science less certain.


7 posted on 06/21/2005 4:36:28 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: AndrewC; Michael_Michaelangelo
The opposition refuses to engage. It's the possum strategy, except that the possum is not acting.

Et Tu, Brute?

Science is correcting itself right into the Intelligent Design camp. I wonder where all these folks are going to turn. The U-Turn of repentance hopefully!

8 posted on 06/21/2005 4:38:49 PM PDT by bondserv (Creation sings a song of praise, Declaring the wonders of Your ways †)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
We may need to add a few billion more years to evolutionary history just to make this punctuated 150 years of unparalleled science less certain.

The advent of Information Science is putting nails in that coffin.

9 posted on 06/21/2005 4:41:14 PM PDT by bondserv (Creation sings a song of praise, Declaring the wonders of Your ways †)
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To: bondserv
The U-Turn of repentance hopefully!

Maybe, but...

Mat 13:4 And when he sowed, some [seeds] fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:

10 posted on 06/21/2005 4:47:04 PM PDT by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; ohioWfan; Tribune7; Tolkien; GrandEagle; Right in Wisconsin; Dataman; ..
ping


Revelation 4:11
See my profile for info

11 posted on 06/21/2005 6:40:31 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: bondserv

Thanks for the ping!


12 posted on 06/21/2005 8:26:55 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: bondserv
Note to all:

www.crev.info is one of the best source of material in the creation-evolution debate. They constantly review journal articles on this stuff. Going back through the archives also makes great reading.

13 posted on 06/22/2005 5:42:53 AM PDT by johnnyb_61820
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To: AndrewC
Maybe, but...

Mat 13:4 And when he sowed, some [seeds] fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:

The two biggest "Foul Fowls" in modern thought are:

1. Everyone is basically good or at least potentially good.
2. With Evolution, God is not required (relegating God to an idea rather than a personality).

The enemy of God has deafened the ears of many in the last five generations of Western Civilization with these two New Age concepts. Dreadfully, many of the proselytizers call themselves Christians, by failing to realize that no one can be good absent belief in Jesus Christ, for to know the will of God (which is the only way to do good) is to be spiritually alive in Christ. Christians are still bad when not doing the will of God in our lives, however, thank God, we have an auto-correct mechanism which makes life miserable when we are "enjoying" the sins of the flesh. Residence of the Holy Spirit giving Christ access to our dark little hearts.

There is a transforming power to being washed in the light of His word. But one must first be spiritually born again for God to have the access to do the transformation.

Rationally destroying these "Fowls" with those who are still willing to listen, is an important role for those called by God to do so (read: all Christians through sharing of the Gospel). Our efforts here are still potentially fruitful as long as the seed can still be disseminated to those willing to listen. Those condemned by Mat 13:4 are completely uninterested. IMO FWIW.

14 posted on 06/22/2005 9:16:23 AM PDT by bondserv (Creation sings a song of praise, Declaring the wonders of Your ways †)
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