MEIN KAMPF = MEIN KORAN 
ALLAHU AKBAR! = HEIL HITLER! 
Radical Islam is an insane murder cult; moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
Posted on 07/17/2005 8:24:37 PM PDT by CHARLITE
Arguably one of the most serious thinkers we are fortunate to have among us, Victor Davis Hanson joined Hugh for much of the last hour. This is somebody that you need to read, and make sure others do as well. Here's the transcript:
HH: Joined now by Victor Davis Hanson, military historian, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. His website is VictorHanson.com. Earlier today, I read extensively from his article at National Review.com, Our Wars Over The War. Professor Hanson, welcome back. Good to have you.
VDH: Thank you for having me, Hugh.
HH: It's a magnificent piece today, and I think you put your finger on what has been coursing through...I read a piece in the Times of London by Gerard Baker today, other pieces that folks have finally realized that our civil war over this war may be more dangerous to our victory than our enemies in the mountains of Afghanistan. Do you agree with that?
VDH: I do, because they are not able, militarily, to defeat us. They're not even able to wage a successful unconventional war. But as you know, from the twenty five years that followed from the Embassy takeover in Iran, they have an uncanny ability to decipher the mind of the West: to hit, back off, allege victimization or grievances, and then to hit again, and hoping all the while to have an incremental agenda that finally achieves their goals.
HH: In that regard, what's the most important thing the American public can do, to prevent that incrementalism?
VDH: I think they have to ignore the illiberal charges of racism, on illiberalism, that the left tends to level when people ask legitimate questions. For example, why is a suspect, who may have been involved in the bombing, what process would happen that he would have a degree, or at least attend school from American university? Or why, here in the central valley, do we have people in Lodi, California, who may have been involved in medrasas in Pakistan? Or in Oregon? Or in Virginia? And I think those are legitimate questions that one can raise, without having to worry whether he's going to be called illiberal.
And I think that's very, very important that we realize that during the Cold War, people didn't easily come into the United States from Romania or Bulgaria or Albania. We had enough confidence that while we loved Bulgarians and Poles and Romanians, we felt that the system of government under which they were living was antithetical to the United States and the free world. And I'm afraid to say that I think the governments, both the worst examples in Iran and Syria, but also in places like Egypt and Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, either condone or encourage or abet or subsidize the type of hatred that we saw in London, Madrid.
It's all over the world now. It's in Thailand, it's in Darfur, it's in Turkey, it's in Tunisia, it's in Russia, and it's not just longer what did the United States do to encourage this. What did the Israelis do. I think people are starting to see it's a fascistic movement that has hijacked Islams, in a sense that moderate Muslims either cannot or will not identify it, and isolate it, and ostracize it.
HH: Now, Professor Hanson, in the Washington Times today, Diana West wrote an op-ed, in which she talked about the danger to our way of life, posed by Islam. And I quote now, quote notice I didn't say Islamists, or Islamo-fascists, or fundamentalist extremists. I have tried out such terms in the past, but I've come to find them artificial and confusing, maybe purposefully so, because in their imprecision, I think they allow us to give a wide berth to a great problem. The gross incompatability of Islam, the religious force that shrinks freedom, even as it moderately enables, or extremistly advances jihad with the West. Am I right? Who's to say? Professor Hanson, I don't think she's right, but I'm interested in your response.
VDH: I don't think she's right, either. At least not yet, because I think that the Muslim community in the West is going to have to make a decision, and that decision is on the horizon. In other words, the people of London are going to have to realize that there may be two or three or four percent of the population, in which they go to the Medrasa, they go to a Moscque with a C, and this could be sizeable number of people.
Several hundred, even several thousand. Same in the United States, same in France, same in other countries. And that's going to be the key. We should remember in 1939, there were fascist societies in places like Mexico and Argentina, that professed allegiance to what Mussolini and Germany were trying to do. But by 1946, they were moribund, because that ideology had been discredited. So while we try to attack it militarily, and prevent the terrorists from killing people as well as promoting democracy, we have to change the climate or the landscape under what we will tolerate.
And we have to tell Muslims of good faith, the end is over for tolerating this type of behavior. If you go to a mosque, and somebody stands up and says Jews are apes and pigs, or the West should be destroyed, then you have a duty as a resident or a citizen in a Western country to oppose that. And if you don't do it, you're abetting it, and you're complicit in it.
Char :)
MEIN KAMPF = MEIN KORAN
ALLAHU AKBAR! = HEIL HITLER!
Radical Islam is an insane murder cult; moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
thanks...moved that up in rank today...so many windows open I get lost....
Always read Hanson! He's great and comes up with one great column after another.
Hanson and Dennis Prager have all made the arguments that Islam is at war with Western Civilization, the war is NOW, it's for real and it's not going away until we stop them.
Let me know if you want in or out
Thank you for the ping!
That would include how many?
According to Daniel Pipes it's about 85-90% of the worlds Muslims.
Now stop and think, ask yourself, if all Muslims (or even most Muslims) really bought into the jihadist mindset don't you think we'd be seeing just a bit more incidences of terrorism, and counties like Saudi Arabia?
its a bump
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