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"I'm A Thief"
An American Expat in Southeast Asia ^ | 18 Sep 2005 | expatguy

Posted on 09/18/2005 8:36:48 AM PDT by expatguy

One of the most powerful images from the aftermath of the Southeast Asian earthquake and tsunamis, was this one from Banda Aceh just days after the terrible tragedy. The photo above is that of a young man, a looter, who was beaten into submission and then paraded through the village square with a placard around his neck that says in Indonesian "Saya Maling" (I'm a thief).

Without the aid of the police or militia the photo shows the determination and the will of a altruistic, righteous and self-disciplined group of people desirous for the return of law and order to their society. A people who did not require the "whip of tyranny" a people who knew right from wrong.

There seems to be a troubling confusion here among many of the people here in Southeast Asia at how many people in the United States could have exchanged moral clarity for nothing more than feel-good relativism with regards to the looting that took place in New Orleans.

The attempts by by the mayor, governor and others to somehow justify the looting of "needed items" initially and then act totally surprised when things got out of control represents a leadership failure on a monumental scale. The looting by officers of the law and those who have taken an oath to protect us and our property clearly represented not only the complete and utter breakdown of civilized society but perhaps the most heinous evil known to man.

Many people here asked and rightly so - "Did these looted items not belong to other people?" and - "By what authority does the mayor tell people that it is okay to take what you need from another person's property?" I have found myself in a dilemma to answer these questions and explain the actions of my fellow countrymen because in my own heart I know that looting under any circumstances is wrong. It makes no difference what you loot whether it be food or televisons. It is and will always be morally wrong.

"The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. If "Thou shalt not covet" and "Thou shalt not steal" were not commandments of Heaven, they must be made inviolable precepts in every society before it can be civilized or made free." - John Adams - 1787

Our forefathers knew that it was wrong, where did we as a people and as a nation get lost along the way?

"Some people are stealing, and they’re making a big deal out of it. “Oh, they’re stealing 20 pair of jeans, or they’re stealing television sets.” Who cares? They’re not going to go too far with it. Maybe those people are so poor, some of those people who do that, they’ve never touched anything like that in their lives. Let them touch those things for once."

- Celine Dion on "Larry King Live"

Hows does one explain the words of Celine Dion to the people of Southeast Asia? Many here who truly live in abject poverty and who have only a fraction of the daily caloric intake of their counterparts in New Orleans.

The damage to our country's image and reputation is severe. To many in Southeast Asia now the tragedy in New Orleans has shown that while America might be a rich country, it exists only one step above complete anarchy, barbarism and savagery. The disrespect for the rights of others and the lack of moral clarity have led many here to believe that America is nothing more than an amoral hedonistic society, a society now lost, completely devoid of any moral compass and set adrift on an endless sea of moral relativism.

We have a lot of work to do to rebuild our country's image and to let people know that this is not representative of America. Im going to do my best over here as I always do in spreading the good word where I can and I would appreciate all your help. Not only must we join with the President and rebuild New Orleans but we need to help spread the good news abroad.


TOPICS: Education; Government; History; Miscellaneous; Politics; Reference; Religion; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: bandaaceh; indonesia; katrina; looting; tsunami
Katrina and a view of America from SE Asia.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

1 posted on 09/18/2005 8:36:49 AM PDT by expatguy
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To: expatguy

Celine Dion might feel differently if it was her store being looted


2 posted on 09/18/2005 8:42:36 AM PDT by apackof2 (Never underestimate the power of a fuzzy friend!)
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To: SJackson; Watery Tart; MeekOneGOP; Milhous; JoeSixPack1; trussell; Fierce Allegiance; ...
++Mini Ping++

Please use you lists - thank you ;-)

3 posted on 09/18/2005 8:45:22 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: expatguy

CNN would do well in putting names to the NO looters.


4 posted on 09/18/2005 8:49:57 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: expatguy
"Some people are stealing, and they’re making a big deal out of it. “Oh, they’re stealing 20 pair of jeans, or they’re stealing television sets.” Who cares? They’re not going to go too far with it. Maybe those people are so poor, some of those people who do that, they’ve never touched anything like that in their lives. Let them touch those things for once."

- Celine Dion on "Larry King Live"


Celine also needs to try to explain away arsonists who torched looted stores.
5 posted on 09/18/2005 9:01:10 AM PDT by Milhous
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To: mtbopfuyn

That would be such a great idea to have the names of the looters known.


6 posted on 09/18/2005 9:01:43 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: expatguy

Ye..It wuld be nice to be able to name them and prosecute them..I doubt it will happen..


7 posted on 09/18/2005 9:10:55 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: expatguy

Not to be too confrontational about it, but from Indonesia up to Hanoi, SE Asia has had its own fair share of social breakdowns in the last couple of decades. No need to repeat them all here, they're well known and some quite recent (e.g., in southern Thailand or the anti-Thai riots in Phnom Penh).

On the other hand, I'd like to envision that the same applications of village justice I often witnessed in SE Asia would have helped in New Orleans. But probably not.

The concept of "the village" - as you know a strong social archetype in SE Asia - implies a kind of mutual aid. Can't tell you how many times I saw "the village" - anywhere from 5 to 30 people - administering quick and effective justice on thieves and burglars.

But when you have the leaders of the New Orleans welfare culture - Nagin, Blanko, the police, et al - basically saying it's A-OK to loot and steal, that's exactly the sort of behavior you'll get.



8 posted on 09/18/2005 9:52:14 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Milhous

What Celine and other elite ignorami ignore is that "these people" are going to take the goods they stole and sell them for a fraction of their value and use the money to buy drugs.


9 posted on 09/18/2005 10:00:19 AM PDT by Enterprise (When Rats govern they screw up and people die. Then, the Rats want to punch the President.)
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To: expatguy

I wondered how long it would take before someone wrote about the dichotomy between the truly destitute and the merely greedy.

My kid was in Thailand after the tsunami and remarked how calm and generous of spirit the people are.

Sixty years of Political Correctness, Feel Good Curriculums, and Left wing nonsense has created this mess.


10 posted on 09/18/2005 10:28:04 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: expatguy
They just don't look like the poor.
11 posted on 09/18/2005 11:18:14 AM PDT by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: expatguy
I would explain the thievery as what happens when you preach communism and socialism that say "property is theft", and that government has the right to take from some and give to others.

With government setting the example, these folks were just doing a little "wealth redistributing" on their own initiative.

It is the socialists in our societies that condone or explain away such actions.
12 posted on 09/18/2005 2:22:08 PM PDT by marktwain
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PING!!

The disrespect for the rights of others and the lack of moral clarity have led many here to believe that America is nothing more than an amoral hedonistic society, a society now lost, completely devoid of any moral compass and set adrift on an endless sea of moral relativism.

And the plantation owners are happy. That's how they wanted people to react.
13 posted on 09/18/2005 10:08:07 PM PDT by Watery Tart ("First, New Orleans Mayor Ray Naga… Nogg… Nagg… Not gonna work here anymore, anyway!" ~~Bob)
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To: marktwain

I get it, they steal from the rich and give to...themselves.
Steal from the poor and give to...themselves.
Yeah, kinda like Robin Hood, but different.


14 posted on 09/18/2005 10:34:19 PM PDT by Translates
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To: Watery Tart

Not only did they want them to act that way, they knew that they would, were expecting it, and did everything they could to encourage and exploit it.

Typical, really.


15 posted on 09/18/2005 10:52:58 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Its only funny till someone gets hurt, Then its HILARIOUS.)
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To: OpusatFR; All

I really should have went much more into that - Imagine someone in REAL poverty - and then try to explain to them that these overweight people in Louisiana wading through the water are looting because they are starving.


16 posted on 09/19/2005 12:23:09 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Translates; marktwain
"Yeah, kinda like Robin Hood, but different."

Yeah, different all right. The Robin Hood story hasn't been told correctly in many a year. Our legendary hero was not a redistributor of wealth, but rather a tax protester who took it upon himself to return revenues misappropriated by the Norman Lords to the working class Saxons who were being taxed into submission and poverty.

My kinda guy. Wish we could send him to Washington.
17 posted on 09/19/2005 2:27:02 AM PDT by shibumi (Not a Speck of Cereal!)
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