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Why Gun Owners Worry:
The Volokh Conspiracy Blog ^ | 9-28 | Eugene Volokh

Posted on 09/28/2005 7:15:49 AM PDT by stan_sipple

I've long been struck by attempts to paint gun rights activists as paranoid. "[N]o one is seriously proposing to ban or confiscate all guns. You hear that only from the gun lobby itself, which whistles up this bogeyman whenever some reasonable regulation is proposed." Just modest, reasonable regulations, folks, that's all that it's about; and you must be an extremist or irrational if you're worried about more.

In response, I put up a Web page documenting all the groups and commentators that have urged total or near-total handgun bans (and in some instances bans on all guns); and, of course, those jurisdictions that have in fact implemented such bans. It hardly seems paranoid to worry about proposals that have been made by Senators, Representatives, mayors, editorial boards of the L.A. Times and the Washington Post, leading opinion journalists, and leaders of prominent gun control groups — and that have been in fact enacted in some places (including our nation's capital).

(Excerpt) Read more at volokh.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; freedom; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment
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1 posted on 09/28/2005 7:15:50 AM PDT by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple
"[N]o one is seriously proposing to ban or confiscate all guns.

Gun owners in NO may argue that point!

2 posted on 09/28/2005 7:31:55 AM PDT by apackof2 (There's two theories to arguin' with a woman. Neither one works. Will Rogers)
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To: stan_sipple; Ancesthntr; archy; Badray; B4Ranch; Blood of Tyrants; CodeToad; coloradan; ...

Just wait until we see what President Hillary, AG Schumer and FBI Director Spitzer spring on us.


3 posted on 09/28/2005 7:35:29 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

"Just wait until we see what President Hillary, AG Schumer and FBI Director Spitzer spring on us."

They will set aside guantanamo bay for gun owners


4 posted on 09/28/2005 7:38:08 AM PDT by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple

It'll have to be cemetary space. No amount of illegal actions by our government will be sufficient to force me to give up my guns. I have a family to protect and I need the tools to do so.


5 posted on 09/28/2005 7:43:29 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be. -El Neil)
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To: stan_sipple
"[N]o one is seriously proposing to ban or confiscate all guns.

They've told so many lies, and now they want me to believe this? Right.....

6 posted on 09/28/2005 7:46:12 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: stan_sipple
"[N]o one is seriously proposing to ban or confiscate all guns.

US Citizens have the Right to Bear Arms..the constitution does not limit citizens as to what TYPE of arms they can bear.

Any limits on gun ownership is a direct violation of our constitution. I'm not sure if I even agree with background checks to keep guns "out of the hands of criminals".

Those who break the law and murder already have the consequence: prison or death.

Bet there are a bunch of folks that have firearms purchased or acquired well before all the new, paranoid laws were in place..I think thats who the liberal, constitution hating, USA hating, islamofacist loving,Terror loving, anti-gun lobby is after.

Good luck boys...from my cold dead hands.

7 posted on 09/28/2005 7:58:01 AM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: Dead Corpse
It'll have to be cemetary space. No amount of illegal actions by our government will be sufficient to force me to give up my guns.

Lets go one step further and apply this to ALL Un-Constitutional "laws". No USA citizen has to follow an unconstitutional law set by an activists government or Judiciary..lets not forget WHY we have the Constitution after all...to "take care of" an out of control GOVERNMENT!

8 posted on 09/28/2005 8:00:50 AM PDT by Iron Matron
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9 posted on 09/28/2005 8:16:43 AM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: stan_sipple

It's important for firearms owners to stay united and on message. Firearms owners should also join the gun rights organization of their choice, whether it be NRA, GOA, or another organization. There is strength in numbers.

Believe it or not, our situation has improved. A majority of states now have some sort of law allowing for handgun carry, and others are considering such legislation.

We will always have hoplophobes among us, those who have an irrational fear of firearms and think that the cure for their illness is taking away everybody's gun. We can't do anything for them, so let's concentrate on those who will listen to our message. If we set the example with responsible firearms ownership we will win converts to our cause.


10 posted on 09/28/2005 8:17:49 AM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: Travis McGee

UGH....you're scaring me.


11 posted on 09/28/2005 8:17:51 AM PDT by wardaddy (You're too good for him.)
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To: billnaz
It's important for firearms owners to stay united and on message. Firearms owners should also join the gun rights organization of their choice, whether it be NRA, GOA, or another organization. There is strength in numbers.

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Agreed.

12 posted on 09/28/2005 8:20:31 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks for the ping. In case someone hasn't heard of Eugene Volokh, here's some information about him.

Eugene Volokh teaches free speech law, copyright law, the law of government and religion, and a seminar on firearms regulation policy at UCLA Law School. Before coming to UCLA, he clerked for Justice Sandra Day O'Connor on the U.S. Supreme Court and for Judge Alex Kozinski on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.

Volokh also worked for 12 years as a computer programmer, and is still partner in a small software company which sells HP 3000 software that he wrote. He graduated from UCLA with a B.S. in math-computer science at age 15, and has written many articles on computer software. He is a member of The American Law Institute.

Volokh is the founder and coauthor of The Volokh Conspiracy, a Weblog that gets about 10,000 unique visitors per weekday. He also has a Web page documenting all the groups and commentators that have urged total or near-total handgun bans (and in some instances bans on all guns); and, of course, those jurisdictions that have in fact implemented such bans.

For more information and a list of his articles, click here.

13 posted on 09/28/2005 8:26:48 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Travis McGee

Three pill solution to that headache comes to mind.....


14 posted on 09/28/2005 8:33:55 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: DumpsterDiver

Eugene Volokh should be next scotus justice


15 posted on 09/28/2005 8:45:25 AM PDT by stan_sipple
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To: Travis McGee
If the "Government" attempts to subvert the Constitution....I guess I'll be spending my twilight years honoring an oath all veterans made at induction -- to "support and defend the Constitution against all enemies -- Foreign or Domestic..........

It's okay by me, but I don't think they want several MILLION armed former veterans gunning for THEIR asses...

We learned our jobs quite well, decades ago.

Semper Fi
16 posted on 09/28/2005 9:16:54 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Squantos

140, 180 or 230 grains?


17 posted on 09/28/2005 9:37:51 AM PDT by Noumenon (Activist judges - out of touch, out of tune, but not out of reach.)
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To: Noumenon

Whatever cures a headache...... 500Mg.......:o)


18 posted on 09/28/2005 10:09:59 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Noumenon
D- All of the above.

L

19 posted on 09/28/2005 10:11:32 AM PDT by Lurker (Reality cannot be changed by wishful thinking, good intentions, or legislation.)
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To: Noumenon

55gr, 62gr, 125gr, 130gr, 158gr, 165gr, 180gr, 200gr, 1oz.
that should cover my perscriptions.


20 posted on 09/28/2005 11:20:25 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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