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A Traitor's Tirade: Rep. John Murtha Soils The Corps (Gunny Bob)
Men's News Daily ^ | 17 November 2005 | Bob Newman ("Gunny Bob")

Posted on 11/17/2005 6:14:19 PM PST by Stultis

In a statement that has angered, embarrassed and humiliated Marines around the globe, one of our own -- a retired Marine Corps Reserve colonel -- has called for the legendary fighting force to retreat from Iraq and surrender to the terrorist organization that has killed thousands of Americans at home and abroad. He has even called for the United States to enter into negotiations with al Qaeda. This vermin’s demand for retreat, surrender and negotiations with the enemy is so committed to assisting al Qaeda in their efforts in Iraq that he has posted his unspeakable demands on his website in the form of an official statement.

The traitor, Democratic Rep. John P. Murtha, agrees 100% with Osama bin Laden and Abu Musab al Zarqawi that the Marine Corps, which is mangling the enemy on a daily basis in Iraq and suffering comparatively light casualties, should lay down its arms, call it quits, and abandon the people they are defending in the fledgling democracy of Iraq.

Furious Marines from wars as far back as World War II are spitting mad at the cowardly colonel and many want his head on a stake in the middle of the Marine Corps Commandant's lawn. Personally, I would not soil that good earth with so vile and despicable a piece of offal.

Encouraging retreat is viewed as aiding the enemy by the Marines and is a violation of Article 104 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which is punishable by death. Currently serving Marines, active duty or reserve, who encourage surrender are in violation of Article 100 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, an offense also punishable by death. Because Murtha is retired, he is virtually assured of not being prosecuted.

However, he will be celebrated by al Qaeda and other terrorists around the world. At this very moment, al Qaeda communications specialists are likely prepping pieces of propaganda using Murtha’s traitorous tirade as a tool to recruit fresh killers by showing them that even an American Marine (apologies to Puller) believes his allegedly beloved Corps is so inept in battle that retreat and surrender are the Marines’ best option and perhaps should, in fact, be added for the first time to the Leathernecks’ vast, quasi-mythical repertoire of operational art and battlefield strategy.

Murtha joins the likes of traitor Clayton Lonetree, the Marine security guard who gave top-secret intelligence to the Soviets, and traitor Robert Garwood, the Marine who went over to the enemy during the Vietnam War and was involved in holding and abusing US prisoners of war in North Vietnam while wearing the uniform of the enemy.

The Marine Corps is famous for its members standing their ground and winning fights against outrageous odds. Battles with names like the Peking Legation, Belleau Wood, Guadalcanal, Tarawa, Iwo Jima, the Chosin Reservoir, Khe Sanh and Fallujah decorate the hallowed halls of Corps history. Especially repugnant is how Murtha is insisting upon surrender while the Marines are decimating the enemy en masse.

Marines should ask Murtha if Chesty Puller would order retreat and surrender before the enemy.

John "The Jellyfish" Murtha should be shunned by all Marines and, if possible, legal steps should be taken to prevent this betrayer from being buried in a national cemetery upon his demise.

Bob Newman


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: 109th; 850am; bobnewman; congress; conservative; cutandrun; gunnybob; hoorah; house; iraq; johnmurtha; koa; marinecorps; marines; murtha; pa; pennsylvania; semperfi; talkradio; usmc
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Hey, Bob, why don't you say what you really think?
1 posted on 11/17/2005 6:14:21 PM PST by Stultis
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2 posted on 11/17/2005 6:16:46 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Stultis

I'm not a former Marine, and even I am embarassed for the corp, based on Murtha's comments.

I can't be too angry at a person who appears to be verging on instability.


3 posted on 11/17/2005 6:18:04 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Gordongekko909
Thanks. There was (is in the original) an errant parentheses in the url. Here's a fix:
This vermin’s demand for retreat, surrender and negotiations with the enemy is so committed to assisting al Qaeda in their efforts in Iraq that he has posted his unspeakable demands on his website in the form of an official statement.

4 posted on 11/17/2005 6:20:43 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Stultis

You have to understand that Murtha isn't an American, he is a DemocRAT.


5 posted on 11/17/2005 6:22:17 PM PST by Redleg Duke (9/11 - "WE WILL NEVER FORGET!")
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To: Stultis
Marines everywhere should know that there are tens if not hundreds of millions of Americans who are proud of and grateful for your service.
6 posted on 11/17/2005 6:22:35 PM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: Stultis; Red Badger; kellynla; TomasUSMC; BnBlFlag; jonascord; sean327; SF Republican; oh8eleven; ..
What was it about "Semper Fi" that Murtha didn't understand?

Doing today to our young warriors in harm's way, what was done to the warriors of his/our era -- is unforgivable...

Semper Fi
7 posted on 11/17/2005 6:22:36 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Redleg Duke

Most Marines will NOT see a Democrat speaking...
We see a former Marine speaking, and that is what we find so unforgiveable..

Semper Fi


8 posted on 11/17/2005 6:24:08 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Stultis

GoodNight Chesty!

9 posted on 11/17/2005 6:26:47 PM PST by JOE6PAK ("We'll be Heironymus Bosch in Jest a Minute, but Faust...")
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To: Stultis
Stultis:
I for one echo Bob's feeling ioo%. I served in WWII and have served and talked with thousands of MARINES. I fly an American and Marine flag in my front yard the year around. The thought of surrender, or even of pulling back from this WAR is unthinkable. It is my hope that our Comander-in-Cheif will prevail and put this piece of S### to shame. That is my feelings and anyone else is welcome to theirs, just remember if you show weakness you will be bullied.

Good evening and the very best to you and yours.

Semper Fi
Tommie

10 posted on 11/17/2005 6:27:35 PM PST by Texican (An)
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To: river rat
Murtha has been ranting like this since early 2004. The camera just happened to focus on him when there wasn't enough Shumer around.

Raise your hand up high and give the universal sign (Proudly...)


11 posted on 11/17/2005 6:28:59 PM PST by xcamel (Operation Spread The Truth resource page http://lrllamas.com/OSTT)
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To: Stultis
I took a break from FR and went upstairs to tell my wife about this article. She was watching a cooking show because she said Hannity and Colmes had on Gen Wesley Clark and Clasrk was agreeing with Murtha.

My wife got so mad she shut it off and changed channels. - tom

12 posted on 11/17/2005 6:31:11 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: river rat

Thanks for the ping. I guess being a politician (especially a RAT) trumps being a Marine for some people. This guy is just another sellout.


13 posted on 11/17/2005 6:32:09 PM PST by clintonh8r (I hope I'm at home when the GOP Senate Campaign Committee calls for some money.)
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To: Stultis

While I do agree that Mutha sucks, his statement doesn't seem to be a call for retreat directed at the military. It's more along the lines of "bring our troops home" stuff. He isn't saying that any soldiers should cut and run, but rather that the President should order them to leave Iraq.


14 posted on 11/17/2005 6:32:30 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: river rat

As a former Army Cannon Cocker, I share your feelings to the max.


15 posted on 11/17/2005 6:33:28 PM PST by Redleg Duke (9/11 - "WE WILL NEVER FORGET!")
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To: DoughtyOne
The wife today echoed your sentiments, she said he was suffering from dementia.
16 posted on 11/17/2005 6:38:09 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Stultis
This is a copy of an e-mail I sent earlier today to Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) ...

Because we in Congress are charged with sending our sons and daughters into battle, it is our responsibility, our OBLIGATION to speak out for them. That’s why I am speaking out.
Our military has done everything that has been asked of them, the U.S. can not accomplish anything further in Iraq militarily. IT IS TIME TO BRING THEM HOME.

To Representative John P. Murtha (D-PA 12th District)

Sir, speaking as one former Marine to another it's with great dismay that I find you have chosen to advocate a 'cut & run' policy on Iraq. That is exactly the wrong signal that we should be sending our terrorist foe. In fact it is so wrong it borders on treasonous.

Your words, today, are giving our enemies aid and comfort and demoralizing our fine young servicemen and women serving in harms way in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm not sure what happens to people who aspire to be politicians and then end up in Washington, especially those that get re-elected time and time again ... but somewhere along the line they lose all sense of propriety, they become enamored with themselves and lose touch with everyday America. You, sir ... are completely out of touch. You should dig deep and find any remaining vestiges of the honor you once had as U.S. Marine and resign.

Sincerely,

17 posted on 11/17/2005 6:40:17 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

Yeah, it's sad, and you can bet the farm some leftists have been working on him for a long time.


18 posted on 11/17/2005 6:42:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Stultis

I hear that even Mothra ashamed by these comments.


19 posted on 11/17/2005 6:43:11 PM PST by usmcobra (30 years since I first celebrated The Marine Corps Birthday as a Marine)
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To: JOE6PAK

and... a true son of the South. Buried in a VA church grave yard where he could be the most senior officer there. #2? A Confiderate Gen.

Always faithful?? John Murtha... I think not!


20 posted on 11/17/2005 6:44:19 PM PST by Bubba (AGGIE truck anti-theft device is... the way it works)
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To: Gordongekko909
While I do agree that Mutha sucks, his statement doesn't seem to be a call for retreat directed at the military. It's more along the lines of "bring our troops home" stuff.

But that's what "bring the troops home" has ALWAYS meant and has ALWAYS amounted too, at least in my lifetime.

(Or course I mean those that adopt "bring the troops home" as political slogan in the midst of strife, not longing families who miss their sons and daughters, and not politicians who would bring the troops home in victory with their mission accomplished. But then there's not the slightest doubt to which side of this distinction Murtha falls. He's long since declared the war "unwinnable" with the current strategy: that of killing terrorists, training and equipping Iraqis to kill terrorists and establishing democracy.)

Actually "bring the troops home now" has always been, and certainly is now, MORE than just a call for retreat; it is a treasonous lie. It's never been just a call for unilateral surrender, but rather an attempt to extend aid to America's enemies.

WE KNOW that those who engineered the "bring the troops home now" campaign in 1945 and '46 sought to clear the way for Stalin to extend his empire over all of Europe. WE KNOW that those who said they "only" wanted to "bring the boys home" from Vietnam lied, because when the troops were all safely home they only redoubled their efforts in undermining, demonizing and demoralizing America's allies in Indochina, blocking enforcement of the Paris Accords, and repeatedly slashing aid to Vietnam and Cambodia.

These people never say what they mean but, given the repeated lessons of recent history, any failure to properly decode the real meaning of "bring the troops home now" -- and energetically respond to the intent -- is feckless and inexcusable.

21 posted on 11/17/2005 6:58:04 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: river rat

Murtha = EX-Marine.

The term is rare. But there it is.

Semper Fi


22 posted on 11/17/2005 6:59:00 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: Stultis
Murtha is no conservative anything and from the looks of it he forgot everything he learned in the Corps and from the Vietnam Experience.

In fact,, one could easily say that Murtha is a liberal.

23 posted on 11/17/2005 7:00:43 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: JoeSixPack1

Was Ritter Marine or Army???


24 posted on 11/17/2005 7:00:44 PM PST by cynicom
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To: Stultis

(Insert colorful, profanity-laced, cutting, yet witty DI monologue here)

25 posted on 11/17/2005 7:02:07 PM PST by LongElegantLegs (Yarn-ho.)
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To: JoeSixPack1
Murtha = EX-Marine.

The term is rare. But there it is.

You beat me to it! I suspect the SOB was a REMF anyway.

26 posted on 11/17/2005 7:11:47 PM PST by chesty_puller (USMC 70-73 3MAF VN 70-71)
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To: DoughtyOne

"...er, ah... Ms. Pelosi, Ma'am, can you hold the cue cards a little closer?"
27 posted on 11/17/2005 7:12:30 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Stultis; river rat

Well I called Murtha's office today and read him the "riot act!"
I told him that the Marine Corps was not going to disgrace the memory of all those who paid the ultimate price and their families by "bugging out!" And that we would not leave until we had finished the job.

I also told Murtha's office that Murtha disgraced the Marine Corps today and that he should resign.

Semper Fi,
Kelly


28 posted on 11/17/2005 7:13:16 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: river rat

Thanks for the ping. I wish there was some way his retirement could be terminated. This Jerkoff Sh!tbird should spend about 24 months in an old (circa 1950's) USMC Brig.
That might straighten his dumbass out.


29 posted on 11/17/2005 7:17:40 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: kellynla
"... also told Murtha's office that Murtha disgraced the Marine Corps"

Actually, the past 230 years of Corps History - has safely enshrined the honor of our Corps for all eternity...

The honor of the Corps is impervious to the acts of man..
The honor of our Corps is forever safe in the hearts of men, both alive and our brothers gone before us...

Murtha disgraced himself.....not MY Corps..
At the core, it's STILL the Corps..

Semper Fi

30 posted on 11/17/2005 7:32:11 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: cynicom

Former Marine Officer...

Semper Fi


31 posted on 11/17/2005 7:34:49 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: BnBlFlag

Not going to happen.....
Democrats, America haters and surrender monkeys get a free pass in America..

Semper Fi


32 posted on 11/17/2005 7:41:11 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: jwalsh07

Try to name more than five Dem congressmen north of the Mason Dixon line that are more conservative than Murtha. The guy has been a hawkish type in general. I am not sure he laid out his case as to why the US should "cut its losses" in Iraq. Did he? The problem is, as time goes on, whether or not US troops are just the thin green line between a Shia and Sunni all out civil war. How much of it is about killing terrorists going after the US, and how much of it, is Sunnis going after Shias? At some point, if that is the case, the Shias will have to carry most of the load themselves. Bush's time is running out, and the Shias need to understand that. I don't have the heart however to abandon the Kurds ever. But that is just me.


34 posted on 11/17/2005 8:57:03 PM PST by Torie
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To: river rat
I think Murtha is being faithful because he believes that the final product of this war is not worth our Marines losing their lives for ....

The Final Product:
If the final product is another Oil Rich, Sharia Law, infidel(thats US) hating arab country, then he may be right. And from what can be seen .... the Constitution of Iraq now states NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM, the Iraqi Prime Minister states he wants to establish Sharia Law, and is laying wreathes at Iran's Ayatollah's grave, and even the Iraqi President says he will oppose any attack against Syria, by the USA, launched from Iraq.

and he may also notice how similar it seems to Vietnam.

Casualties higher ( 4 of 6 months with 80 Coalition KIA for the first time)
Sanctuaries for the enemy then and now = Cambodia/Laos then, Syria/Iran now.

Or again he may be another Veteran who sold his soul to the devil... via the democratic party.
35 posted on 11/17/2005 9:25:26 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: chesty_puller
Sounds like a Remington Raider to me.

I remember 3MAF.

VQ 1, Danang. 69-71
36 posted on 11/17/2005 9:34:26 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: kellynla

Good for you. I second the emotion.


37 posted on 11/17/2005 10:14:39 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Stultis

LOL


38 posted on 11/17/2005 10:15:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Stultis

Why is this in blogger?


39 posted on 11/17/2005 10:18:32 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Capt. Tom

"I took a break from FR and went upstairs to tell my wife about this article. She was watching a cooking show because she said Hannity and Colmes had on Gen Wesley Clark and Clasrk was agreeing with Murtha."

I was mad too and had to shut it off. Gen Wesley Clark makes me sick. He's nothing but a stinking politican and doesn't give a rip about this country. Why Fox News hired Clark as a spokesperson is beyond me.


40 posted on 11/17/2005 10:24:02 PM PST by Pepper777
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To: Gordongekko909
" He isn't saying that any soldiers should cut and run, but rather that the President should order them to leave Iraq."
Please become un-confused. Read your above. That spells cut and run not only to our Marines but our Army,Navy, and Airforce. They are commisioned to do a job, and that is to free Iraq from the leftover evil doers of all flavors and fully train the new Iraqi forces to be self sufficient. This asshole is suggestion we cut and run. I listened to him on PBS tonight. He made it clear they could be removed and put in Kuwait! What an ass&hole! And he was a Marine Colonel! He has lost touch with what one would expected him to fully understand. Imagine moving 130,000 plus US forces into Kuwait in holding pens! Think about the ramifications. No this guy has gone over the edge and some republicans with a clear speaking voice with all the facts better had start sticking up for the POTUS or the damn demos and the L/MSM are going to win their NAM engineered fiasco once again.
41 posted on 11/17/2005 10:27:29 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Gordongekko909

"bring the troops home stuff"

is "RAT speak" for "cut and run"---Murtha is an 'old fool' who is up for election in 2006 and has to toe the 'RAT" line for money and other support---Pittsburgh, in my state of PA., is a "RAT" city and deserves Murtha-- with his resume on the services and defense he should know better than to say such a thing when his beloved? Corp is in harms way---God Bless all of our troops and Semper Fi--

Semper Paratus--US Coast Guard WW2 combat vet


42 posted on 11/17/2005 10:33:08 PM PST by cmotormac44
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To: river rat

He was nearly in tears because he knew he was doing wrong. He knows appeasement and pulling out now is death to the military. A "date certain" with death. The terrorists all over the world would rejoice and ululate themselves into a frenzy. Attacks on Americans and American interests would increase in number and intensity. "The Great Satan can be defeated!" they would scream as they cut off the heads of innocents. The open borders of the southwest would be look like a hurricane evac route, to terrorists intent on doing their nefarious acts. He either believes his party's own propaganda or he's an old fool who's been in there too long........


43 posted on 11/18/2005 5:14:52 AM PST by Red Badger (United States Marine Corps, Saving France's Bacon Since 1775.............)
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To: Torie
Try to name more than five Dem congressmen north of the Mason Dixon line that are more conservative than Murtha.

Why? His voting record is pretty clear,his votes on foreign policy and defense and more liberal than two thirds of his peers. Geography has nothing to do with it. He votes as a liberal despite his portrayal as a hawk.

The guy has been a hawkish type in general.

No he hasn't, the guy was a staunch Dean supporter. He voted for war in Iraq but has been a critic ever since.

The terms "hawk" doesn't describe Murtha at all. He's entitled to his opinion, he's earned that in spades but he's not entitled to the bs opinion that you can't favor the war if you aren't a veteran and he deserves scorn for this pull out immediately crap because he is a Vietnam Vet.

Screw him.

44 posted on 11/18/2005 5:35:57 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: kellynla
I called Murtha's office today and read him the "riot act!"
Marines UP! Time to "rock and roll." Semper Fi ...

Washington, D.C. Office
(202) 225-2065
PA District Office
(814) 535-2642

Via the web
45 posted on 11/18/2005 5:50:42 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Stultis

Zarqawi has a new best friend. Murtha.


46 posted on 11/18/2005 5:53:04 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: oh8eleven
All attempts to contact Murtha the traitor via email lead to this:
"The requested page could not be found."
47 posted on 11/18/2005 5:59:31 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Stultis

ouch, thats gonna leave a mark


48 posted on 11/18/2005 6:43:09 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Calpernia; Admin Moderator
Why is this in blogger?

[shrugging shoulders, spreading hands palms up]

I posted it in News and indexed to Editorials. Maybe because it was published in MensNewsDaily? I'm not aware that "Gunny Bob" is a blogger. He has a radio show.

49 posted on 11/18/2005 7:13:39 AM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: jwalsh07
The terms "hawk" doesn't describe Murtha at all.

Yes it does. He's been a "hawk" several time now, then a "hawk" who "suddenly" turned against the war. Then we don't hear anything about him for awhile and he turns up as a "hawk" who "suddenly" turns against the war. Then Bill Murray kidnaps "Phil" the groundhog...

50 posted on 11/18/2005 7:19:26 AM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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