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THOMAS JEFFERSON QUOTES...
USA Patriotism ^ | 11-30-05 | Jo Nuvark

Posted on 11/30/2005 2:10:58 PM PST by Jo Nuvark

Thomas Jefferson 3rd President (1801-1809)

Periodic revolution, “at least once every 20 years,” was “a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.”


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: constitution; democracy; founders; jefferson; libertarian; patriotism; presidents; quotes; thomasjefferson
A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government, and what no just government should refuse, or rest on inference.

In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.

Determine never to be idle. No person will have occasion to complain of the want of time who never loses any. It is wonderful how much may be done if we are always doing.

We confide in our strength, without boasting of it; we respect that of others, without fearing it.

Nothing gives one person so much advantage over another as to remain always cool and unruffled under all circumstances.

Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.

Never put off till tomorrow what you can do today.

A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.

All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to ... remain silent.

Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.

It is our duty still to endeavor to avoid war; but if it shall actually take place, no matter by whom brought on, we must defend ourselves. If our house be on fire, without inquiring whether it was fired from within or without, we must try to extinguish it.

I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

1 posted on 11/30/2005 2:10:59 PM PST by Jo Nuvark
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To: Jo Nuvark
Periodic revolution, “at least once every 20 years,” was “a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.”

This is obviously true, as can be seen by the success of the policy as applied in Africa and Latin America.

2 posted on 11/30/2005 2:12:09 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Jo Nuvark

This is year 19, isn't it?


3 posted on 11/30/2005 2:18:22 PM PST by thoughtomator (What'ya mean you formatted the cat!?)
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To: r9etb

I believe Jefferson was one of the ones who thought that a constitutional convention every generation was the way to go.

Jefferson's generation was rather fond of using the word revolution for non-violent departures from the past.


4 posted on 11/30/2005 2:18:44 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: r9etb
Boil it down to modern simple english:

"Politicians, like diapers, need to be changed often...
Often for the same reason."


5 posted on 11/30/2005 2:20:45 PM PST by xcamel (a system poltergeist stole it.)
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To: r9etb

I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic about Africa and Latin America. Surely Mexico could use a good restructuring. It's just that sometimes you need to just hit "reset".


6 posted on 11/30/2005 2:22:35 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

His 20 year comment gave me an interesting idea on how to make it happen: You have an elected body meet every 20 years that can't spend a dime or pass any law but can fire any government employee, repel any law and stop any spending. Since this is essentially the opposite of what Congress does now and pro is the opposite of con I'd call this once only every 20 year body the "Progress".


7 posted on 11/30/2005 2:23:47 PM PST by Nateman
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To: Nateman

Repel should be repeal.Opps


8 posted on 11/30/2005 2:25:29 PM PST by Nateman
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To: coconutt2000

[...non-violent departures from the past...]

If Jefferson were here today would he reset/rescind Social Security, Abortion, Income Tax, Salary for elected officials (other than executive branch and Judiciary), term limits for Supreme Court?


9 posted on 11/30/2005 2:27:58 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: xcamel

That... "Depends". LOL


10 posted on 11/30/2005 2:29:17 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Nateman

[...20 year "Progress"...]

There are a lot of bright people on this thread. Are you running for office?

Seriously... The Bible has the year of Jubilee every 25 years where everything goes back to its original owner or is "reset". We've got a house of cards built on top of a lot of cr*p that needs to be cleared away. Like New Orleans, it needs to be leveled or they are buiding on a layer of decay.


11 posted on 11/30/2005 2:33:54 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: xcamel

[..."Politicians, like diapers, need to be changed often...
Often for the same reason."...]

That "Depends"! LOL!!!


12 posted on 11/30/2005 2:36:12 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: thoughtomator

Hi Thoughtomator... I don't know what you are trying to say... "this is year 19, isn't it"?

Good to hear from you.


13 posted on 11/30/2005 2:41:40 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: coconutt2000

Beautiful home page. Wonderful pix.


14 posted on 11/30/2005 2:43:30 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun.
While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind.
Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind.
Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks.
Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to his nephew


15 posted on 11/30/2005 2:44:42 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5% of the time!)
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To: Jo Nuvark

In reference to periodic revolutions.


16 posted on 11/30/2005 2:57:36 PM PST by thoughtomator (What'ya mean you formatted the cat!?)
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To: Jo Nuvark
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

And to think Jefferson was a Democrat!

17 posted on 11/30/2005 3:04:30 PM PST by RockinRight (Itís likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: coconutt2000; Jo Nuvark
I believe Jefferson was one of the ones who thought that a constitutional convention every generation was the way to go. Jefferson's generation was rather fond of using the word revolution for non-violent departures from the past.

You mean, we should change the structure of our government as often as Italy and France do?

Sorry, I don't but the "revolution every 20 years" bit, even if it's non-violent revolution. Jefferson said a lot good stuff, but also a number of stupid things. That particular quote is among the latter.

18 posted on 11/30/2005 3:28:08 PM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
er, I don't buy the "revolution every 20 years" bit.
19 posted on 11/30/2005 3:29:26 PM PST by r9etb
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

[...Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks...]

Shhhh. Don't tell the millenium Democrats. They can't handle the truth.


20 posted on 11/30/2005 3:36:44 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: r9etb

Jefferson had a point. It wouldn't be a bad idea for the states to revisit the Constitution every generation, if only to debate the amendments, intent, and meaning.

It would also provide an object lesson to state legislatures that they are sovereign legislatures, in sovereign states, subject to Federal jurisdiction in very narrowly defined areas.

Jefferson was a big one for State and Individual empowerment. The two biggest dangers to our liberty are that the states would give up their powers to the Federal government, and that individuals would give up their liberties to either governments.


21 posted on 11/30/2005 3:39:31 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: r9etb

I'm pretty happy that Canada is throwing out their liberal, avaricious government... in a non-violent revolution. Jefferson was talking about throwing out a corrupt government, not the constitution. And incremental ratification of existing entitlements doesn't count. I'm advocating a full on, knock down, drag out, reset.


22 posted on 11/30/2005 3:44:29 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: RockinRight

[...And to think Jefferson was a Democrat!...]

It is not hard to agree with Jefferson. He is so practical. PRACTICALITY and REASON... that's what is missing from our leaders. Do these guys know how to read?


23 posted on 11/30/2005 3:50:39 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: r9etb
Why? Just 19.99 plus shipping and handling!

Thomas Jefferson was one of the 19th Century's Universal Men along with my mentor Goethe. Did you know that Jefferson is the Father of Modern Archeology. Just ask Schliemann who found Troy after 3000 years!!

More importantly, Jefferson was a "Thinker". He understood that each Generation must place its imprimateur on our government so that it can be fresh and dynamic.

Presient Jackson would establish the National Bank in 1839. Abraham Lincoln would lead the country through the Civil War. If you look at the 20 year cycle the Industrial revolution in the 1880s the Spanish American War and the Globalization of the US's power in 1900 are examples. Jefferson could not provide the laws and regulations for the Telecommunications Revolution which has spanned the 20th Century from Alexander Bell to Bill Gates but each succeeding generation can.

"Think About It"

24 posted on 11/30/2005 3:52:14 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: thoughtomator

PERIODIC REVOLUTIONS: Kuhn, Thomas Samuel 1922–1996.

American philosopher and historian best known for his work The Structure of Scientific Revolutions (1962), in which he challenged the view that the history of science is a smooth and cumulative process, arguing instead that scientific change occurs through “revolutions” in which one paradigm of inquiry and explanation is replaced by another.


25 posted on 11/30/2005 3:52:51 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Young Werther

[..If you look at the 20 year cycle the Industrial revolution in the 1880s the Spanish American War and the Globalization of the US's power in 1900 are examples...]

I think the "macro" revolution is evident. But without an an equal "micro" revolution, we will snap like an old rubberband due to stress and corruption.


26 posted on 11/30/2005 3:59:33 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: coconutt2000
[...revisit the Constitution every generation, if only to debate the amendments, intent, and meaning...]

When I was in grade school I had to memorize the Preamble and the amendments, the Presidents in order, Patrick Henry's Speech, the Gettysburg Address and the Ten Commandments. When my children went to school, these great fundamentals were not being taught and the Founders intentions could be easily distorted. Democracy depends on an informed populace.
27 posted on 11/30/2005 4:07:53 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Same here... It wouldn't hurt if our legislators had to do the same after taking their oath of office.

In fact, it would be interesting to have a tradition of legislators having to write papers and give speeches on their interpretation of the Constitution, our history, and the intent of the Founders.


28 posted on 11/30/2005 4:13:24 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: coconutt2000

I like the idea of a periodic "Constructionist Review" of our legislators. After all they take an oath to uphold the constitution. New citizens know more about Democracy than public school students. Public school students become legislators. Hmmmm. Maybe Arnold should be allowed to run for President. Doh! Not a good idea. Imagine OBL running, or Zarquawi. Bad thought. Baaaaad thought.


29 posted on 11/30/2005 4:25:23 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark
LIBERTARIAN QUOTES
30 posted on 05/04/2007 3:24:34 AM PDT by Capitalism2003 (http://www.LP.org/issues/platform_all.shtml)
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To: Jo Nuvark

2007 The year before the great hi jacking of America amazing after Obamas Election Revolution is a scarce word and an even scarcer commodity if you think a tea party is going to make them listen and OBEY you better just have a seat and drink the tea your tossing cause it aint gonna work...


31 posted on 07/04/2009 7:17:54 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Jo Nuvark

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32 posted on 07/04/2009 7:21:21 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to ... remain silent.)
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