Ruger P345PR: Should I buy this?

March 21, 2006 | JewishRighter

[JewishRighter]

I am considering buying a pistol for personal, home protection. I don't expect to have any concealed carry needs/opportunities/license. I am pretty well settled on 45ACP as a benchmark for stopping power. I am also limiting my preferences to American manufacturers. I don't expect to do a lot of shooting, except for regular practice to maintain proficiency.

I've seen a lot of discussion of various weapons and I'm really asking for views on reliability, durability, user-friendliness, safety and degree of kickback for the Ruger P345PR. If anyone suggests another American made 45, please tell me why it would be preferred over the Ruger.

Thanks to anyone who can weigh in.

[Uri’el-2012]

Sorry

I do use a Ruger pistol in training :

I start people on a Ruger 22/45
for the form and grip leading into a larger caliber.

b'shem Y'shua

[ExSoldier]

I do use a Ruger pistol in training: I start people on a Ruger 22/45 for the form and grip leading into a larger caliber.

LOL Actually, I do too. I used to have the 22/45. Very accurate gun. But I use the .22 Super Single Six SA for true novices who've never really fired a handgun as this tends to remove the fear of multiple shots some folks display. It makes them feel more in control if they have to manually cock the gun to fire each shot. It too, is superbly accurate. I've taken rabbit and squirrel on the run with this gun.

[B4Ranch]

From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia
>
> Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real figures
> from Down Under. It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia
> were forced by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be
> destroyed by our own government, a program costing Australia
> taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.
>
> The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides
> are up 6.2 percent, Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent ;
> Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!
> In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up
> 300 percent. (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in,
> the criminals did not! and criminals still possess their guns!)
>
> While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in
> armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in
> the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that
> their prey is unarmed. There has also been a dramatic increase in
> break-ins and assaults of the elderly, while the resident is at home.
>
> Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has
> decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in
> "successfully ridding Australian society of guns." You won't see this on
> the American evening news or hear your governor or members of the
> State Assembly disseminating this information.
>
> The Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns in the hands of honest
> citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only
> the law-abiding citizens.
>
> Take note Americans, before it's too late!
>
> FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST. [I DID ]
> DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE SILENT MAJORITY.
> BE ONE OF THE VOCAL MINORITY WHO WON'T LET THIS HAPPEN IN THE U.S.A

[timydnuc]

Here's my stuff (just as a suggestion):

1) Loaded 12 gauge Remington pump in the upstairs closet (sawed off 2"). The load in the shot gun is .00 buck.

2) Loaded Colt .45 1911-A in the night stand (my favorite because I was introduced to it in the US Army Rangers, and I'm dead solid perfect with it).

3) I have conceal/carry permit and when I do carry it's either the .45 or my beautiful Taurus .357 double action revolver 2.5 inch barrel (works like a swiss watch).

On the pistols, I have leather shoulder holsters for both my pistols. The wife, when she carries, has a S&W double action snub .38 that is a beautiful old weapon. It clicks like it was made yesterday and she can hit the eye of a fly at 50 feet.

All weapons are maintained in immaculate condition.

I also have a "hog leg" .44 Mag single action revolver in my closet, in it's holster loaded and ready. It's an Interarms replica of an old Calvary horse pistol.

I collect, so I have other weapons that are not in regular use but I take them out and fire them every once and a while.

Set aside a "collection" and go for a good shoot gun, I'd suggest a pump (the sound of a round being breached in a pump shot gun will give your average scum bag a case of the "Hershey squirts"). Keep a load of .00 buck in it just in case he has a piece himself. If you have to fire, you'll have a hellofa mess to clean up, and a few broken things, but you'll have your life.

A definition of a hellofa mess: blood, lots of it, guts, brains, tissue of unknown origin, hair, nails. Thing like that.

One more tip: clean and oil all of your firearms at least every 2 months. I do mine once a month, usually on a day that there is nothing else to do. Also, learn your firearms. Be able to take them apart and put them back together. You may never use it, except for the range, but this one tip will keep every thing in perfect running order in case you have to use it. Remember this, scumbags don't clean their guns, you have to.

[Nathaniel]

I'm not a "cerified instructor".

I DON'T want an intruder to hear me "rack" a pump shotgun.
I don't want him to hear anything, unless it's my voice telling him to "freeze" in an authoritative manner. Other than that, the only thing I WANT him to hear is the sound of sirens as the local donut-munchers arrive, (finally).

My Winchester M1200, (with magazine extension), stays loaded with 3" 00 Buckshot, except for the last two, which are 3" rifled slugs, with a buckshot round locked and loaded, safety on.

I am not going to give away my position by "racking" a slide.

I do not "lawyer proof" anything. I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.

Most people would be well served in the home defense role, by a quality double action, (with full single-action capability intact), revolver in 38 Special, loaded with good JHP +P loads.

A shotgun's "spread", at room distance is next to nothing. My 12 gauge is meant for the wife's use. She also has her Beretta M21 in 22 LR, loaded with CCI Stingers close at hand.

I live out in the country and over-penetration doesn't concern me - we have no children sleeping in adjacent rooms.

By my side of the bed rests either a Winchester M94 Trapper, (16" barrel - Williams FP peep sights),in 44 Magnum, loaded with 240 grain standard JHPs or a semi CAR 15. Either will have one "up the spout", ready to go. My Ruger P89DC with tritrium sights, 18 round Ram Line magazine, loaded with CorBon 110 grain +P JHPs rests there also. I favor the 45 ACP over the 9, but the 9 will do the job, and my Llama 45 does not have night sights.

Of couse Mag-Lites with fresh batteries and charged-up cell phones are there, too.

I agree, though about SOME training. A person should be well-aquainted with his piece and know how to use it.
It is more important - especially at room distances - to be safe and willing with your weapon than it is to be tack-drivingly accurate.

And if you are placed in that most horrible of situations in which you MUST shoot somebody, make sure they're DEAD. Dead men cannot sue.

Also, make sure you describe your appearance to the 911 dispatcher. "Barney" will show up, barking orders to re-affirm his or her authority, with his/her piece drawn, hoping to get in the news. You want him or her to know that you're not the intruder.