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Those pesky new Iraqi documents
Stingray: a blog for salty Christians ^ | March 23, 2006 | Michael McCullough

Posted on 03/23/2006 10:18:22 AM PST by DallasMike

Hat tip to Ace of Spades on this one. The ABC News Investigative Unit has provided summaries of 5 documents that have been newly released by the US government.. The documents do not have a seal but they indicate that they were personally reviewed by Saddam. The mainstream media may be getting hot under the collar -- sooner or later they'll have to report that what they've been telling us for 3 years has been a lie:

"Osama Bin Laden Contact With Iraq"

 A newly released pre-war Iraqi document indicates that an official representative of Saddam Hussein's government met with Osama bin Laden in Sudan on February 19, 1995 after approval by Saddam Hussein. Bin Laden asked that Iraq broadcast the lectures of Suleiman al Ouda, a radical Saudi preacher, and suggested "carrying out joint operations against foreign forces" in Saudi Arabia. According to the document, Saddam's presidency was informed of the details of the meeting on March 4, 1995 and Saddam agreed to dedicate a program for them on the radio. The document states that further "development of the relationship and cooperation between the two parties to be left according to what's open (in the future) based on dialogue and agreement on other ways of cooperation." The Sudanese were informed about the agreement to dedicate the program on the radio.

The report then states that "Saudi opposition figure" bin Laden had to leave Sudan in July 1996 after it was accused of harboring terrorists. It says information indicated he was in Afghanistan. "The relationship with him is still through the Sudanese. We're currently working on activating this relationship through a new channel in light of his current location," it states.

(Editor's Note: This document is handwritten and has no official seal. Although contacts between bin Laden and the Iraqis have been reported in the 9/11 Commission report and elsewhere, (e.g. the 9/11 report states "Bin Laden himself met with a senior Iraqi intelligence officer in Khartoum in late 1994 or early 1995) this document indicates the contacts were approved personally by Saddam Hussein.

It also indicates the discussions were substantive, in particular that bin Laden was proposing an operational relationship, and that the Iraqis were, at a minimum, interested in exploring a potential relationship and prepared to show good faith by broadcasting the speeches of al Ouda, the radical cleric who was also a bin Laden mentor.

The document does not establish that the two parties did in fact enter into an operational relationship. Given that the document claims bin Laden was proposing to the Iraqis that they conduct "joint operations against foreign forces" in Saudi Arabia, it is interesting to note that eight months after the meeting — on November 13, 1995 — terrorists attacked Saudi National Guard Headquarters in Riyadh, killing 5 U.S. military advisors. The militants later confessed on Saudi TV to having been trained by Osama bin Laden.)

Ace of Spade commenter Sue Dohnim reminds us of how easily the media saw the connection between Osama and Saddam in the Clinton years.


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KEYWORDS: alqaeda; binladen; bush; iraq; islam; osama; prewardocs; saddam; terror; terrorism; war; wot
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1 posted on 03/23/2006 10:18:25 AM PST by DallasMike
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To: DallasMike; eyespysomething
Heavy discussion threads:

Prewardocs keyword list

2 posted on 03/23/2006 10:21:46 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: DallasMike

Do you realize how fast the MSM would collapse like a house of cards?

If you thought the fallout and market consequences was significant for the Corvair after "Unsafe at Any Speed" that would look like a bright sunshiny day.

You'd be talking about a complete collapse of every notable news organization in the country.

Quite frankly the most reliable sources and reporting would then fall to **GASP** the new media.


3 posted on 03/23/2006 10:24:24 AM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; DallasMike; Chena; Valin; M. Thatcher; DocRock; Calpernia; Madame Dufarge; ...
Thanks y'all. for the thread and for the ping!

TITLE OF THREAD

Release/Translation of Classified PreWar Docs ping. If you want to be added or removed to the ping list, please Freepmail me.

Please add the keyword prewardocs to any articles pertaining to this subject.

Operation Iraqi Freedom Documents

Documents from the Harmony Database

4 posted on 03/23/2006 10:24:28 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: DallasMike; Owl_Eagle; Sam's Army; Lazamataz; Darksheare; pissant; Dashing Dasher; najida; ...
MSM EGG ON FACE AGAIN...PING!!!
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5 posted on 03/23/2006 10:24:51 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; eyespysomething; jveritas
Don't you love being on top of the media food chain! How long have we know about this? 48-72 hours? Thank you Jveritas
6 posted on 03/23/2006 10:30:29 AM PST by MNJohnnie (To Dems: Communism has been tired repeatedly and it doesn't work.- Freeper Lizma)
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To: MNJohnnie
LOL, I think I read it last week from jveritas actually.

But yeah, I like knowing things early on.

How are the libs going to spin this. They have been preaching "No Connection" for so long?

7 posted on 03/23/2006 10:33:11 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
What a sad lot the MSM have become!

Be Ever Vigilant!


8 posted on 03/23/2006 10:37:58 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: DallasMike; Ernest_at_the_Beach

I'm going to take some aluminum foil over to the Palestine Hotel and rub it on CNN's satellites they have there.


9 posted on 03/23/2006 10:45:15 AM PST by Allegra ("Trollspotting." A New Movie Starring a Bunch of Kitties)
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To: Allegra

ROFL!!!


10 posted on 03/23/2006 10:46:40 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: eyespysomething; All

I'm trying to point some people to the best repository for translated documents - someplace on the internet that is easy to get to and the documents are easy to find.

So far, the best I could find is right here ... between jveritas and all the linked articles, FreeRepublic seems to have the most complete grouping of information and translations on the prewardocs.

But for people who aren't Freepers and might have trouble as first time users with navigating the site, is there someplace else I can send them?


11 posted on 03/23/2006 10:51:38 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
How are the libs going to spin this

Ignore, ignore, ignore.

12 posted on 03/23/2006 10:52:34 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: MNJohnnie

You welcome :)


13 posted on 03/23/2006 10:54:29 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: SittinYonder
True, very true.

We cannot let them get away with that!

14 posted on 03/23/2006 10:55:12 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: SittinYonder

You're such an idiot. Just send them this link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=prewardocs


15 posted on 03/23/2006 10:56:21 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: SittinYonder

Start here:

The Mother of all connections: a special report on the new evidence of collaboration between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and al Qaeda
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0RMQ/is_41_10/ai_n15622078

For the best articles they need to read stuff by Stephen F. Hayes at the Weekly Standard ( http://www.weeklystandard.com/Search/FreeSearch.asp )(and all over the net)

For a listing of documents, videos and audio, they can go to the military websites:

http://70.169.163.24/default.aspx

or

http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm#iraq

and

http://www.ctc.usma.edu/harmony_docs.asp





16 posted on 03/23/2006 11:04:57 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: eyespysomething
Here's another one...

Secret intelligence memo links Saddam, bin Laden: Relationship involved training in WMD, financial support for 9-11 hijacker Atta (Nov 2003)

There is a link at the bottom of that article to several other articles.

17 posted on 03/23/2006 11:23:13 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Allegra
"I'm going to take some aluminum foil over to the Palestine Hotel and rub it on CNN's satellites they have there."
Heheh. Now your into special operations.
18 posted on 03/23/2006 11:59:45 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: DallasMike; SittinYonder
All the links I can locate on this subject ( with synopsis's, when available ) are here, updated as conditions warrant:

-The Iraq Documents--

BTW, I have settled on the keyword iraqdocs for indexing to the keyword database.

19 posted on 03/23/2006 12:48:00 PM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe

Thanks.


20 posted on 03/23/2006 12:55:05 PM PST by DallasMike
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