Posted on 03/29/2006 1:59:58 AM PST by Bob Haran
By Bob Haran; The recent marches in opposition to Rep. James Sensenbrener’s bill, H.R. 4437, that would make it a felony to be in the country illegally, has raised a question in my mind.
Why don't we make the people responsible for causing people to enter our country illegally, felons? Congress should amend H.R. 4437 and instead of making it a felony to be in the country illegally, make it a felony to illegally hire someone in the country illegally. To make people who are for the most part, law abiding, into felons, is ludicrous. Why does our government refuse to go after the real law breakers, the employers that illegally hire and profit from using undocumented workers?
Let's enforce all our immigration laws.
Bob Haran, Phoenix www.Bob-Haran.info
I mentioned Ohio, that happens to be where I live, and where I live is where I see the welfare travesty and it's typical of the whole nation. And this keeps people from doing jobs that are waiting here for the illegal alens. It's on topic, whether you understand this or not.
People that are too proud to do this work are never too proud too scam the welfare system. Why should they work? They don't have to!
BS. You act like Americans are the most helpless bunch of screwups on the planet. We run this joint, remember? We can certainly rebuild anything worth rebuilding- which is the real underlying point- is rebuilding an underwater city worth doing? This New Orleans rebuilding is the most expensive pandering project I've ever witnessed.
If the market weren't skewed and jacked up by artificially cheap labor, I doubt any smart investor would do it. But, nooooo, we have the geniuses in DC deciding for us.
It's really long past time for you to get a new screen name.
I'd suggest Never Right or Always Wrong. Either would be closer to the truth.
Ruh roh, you went against the twitch of the nose and everything is solved caucus on FR.
Didn't you know that throwing Farmer Joe in the can for hiring someone to pick oranges on his property will solve everything, you FROBL.
Our welfare rolls in Virginia are far lower ~ in fact, all your state welfare people have to do to remove the cheats is run "Move Update" against their mailing/address lists for recipients. Federal laws existing since the days of Franklin Roosevelt provide that if a welfare recipient has a change of address on file they get cut off until they are re-examined by a welfare case worker.
Clue ~ welfare cheats ALWAYS have a change of address on file with the post office. It helps them cheat!
I don't believe Ohio has done this yet although everybody else did it first in 1997.
Why not target our elected officials who have chosen to look the other way for so long?
Interestingly, passing the FairTax would fix a lot of the economic effects of the illegal invasion. But Always Right doesn't like that idea either.
I am an I.T. worker who supplements his income nicely by doing painting, tile, and exterior trim work on the weekends. Homeowners don't mind paying an extra %20 over what the illegals charge for someone they can communicate with.
Instead, Farmer Joe should be put out of business so that Farmer Bob can bring in an orange picking machine!
Correct. There are millions of recently arrived LEGAL immigrants, all of whom have obtained their green card visa and are on their way to becoming a LEGAL, PRODUCTIVE American citizen as soon as they fulfill their 'probation' period and then take the oath of citizenship.
But to simply reward those who've broken the Prime Directive by jumping the border (in front of law abiding people) is INSANITY in the first degree.
Heck, I want to further MY family's financial well-being so maybe I can jump the Social Security or welfare system and begin taking globs of money while I continue working at my job.
Hey, what the heck. I'm just trying to put food on the table for my family, dontcha know.
Don't you realize that most every conservative on FR simply has to check your opinion on any given subject, and go 180 opposite, to figure out what's the logical way to think?
You're doing a great service.
Then I guess the great increase nationwide of people receiving government assistance must have been mostly people in Ohio.
hey, time flies, 1997 was long time ago. The beaucracies are promoting and encouraging people getting government assistance.
Start here. Then download their flyer, make copies and send them to employers you suspect are hiring illegals.
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YAWN!
Instead, Farmer Joe should be put out of business so that Farmer Bob can bring in an orange picking machine!
Spoken like the central committee politburo of old.
Everything old is new again.
If only it were that easy.
Even if we cut off legal means to earn a living, illegals would simply join the underground economy, just like millions are already doing now.
Even as we speak, illegals are being paid cash under the table, and they are buying (non-taxed) consumer products at inner-city hock shops.
No, my friend, it will take a threat of incarceration and forced deportment IN ADDITION TO DRYING UP ILLEGAL JOBS to stop this insanity of unchecked illegal immigration.
What a great way to impose a national ID card on a people who find it reprehensible. Piss off Americans with illegal immigrants until we demand a card for 'them'. Trouble is that we'd all need to have the card.
We're at war.
Seal the borders. Stop the flow of illegals. Increase scrutiny of 'legal' immigrants and visitors. Repeal welfare for the able bodied. Punish those who hire illegals. Deport illegals after tattooing "ILLEGAL" on their forehead. Execute those who commit violent crimes.
Fire Congress if they refuse.
Not at all. We just don't have enough healthy young bodies who want to do hard labor. As I have said, we are having fewer children and those we do have are getting educated and do not want to do landscaping work. There simply are not enough young American bodies to do the work that legal and illegal immigrants are doing.
THe difference between legal and illegal is arbitrary. Congress and the President could wave a wand tommorrow and make all illegals 'legal', then you would not have an arguement as they all would be legal.
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