Posted on 08/02/2006 9:06:37 PM PDT by oslonor
| Background to War in Lebanon Contrary to belief the Jews support Mr. Ahmadinejad provocations to start the war in Lebanon. Just read the article by Mr. Kissinger. Mr. Ahmadinejad destroyed everything that was built in last 16 years in Lebanon in two weeks. It seems nobody is aware of the background to the war. Two days before the war started, Mr. Larijani the national security president of Iran was on the way to negotiate with European Union on the nuclear issue. Mr. Ahmadinejad went to airport and with a gun threat took Mr. Larijani out of the plane in Tehran. This was reported in the mass media in Iran. The reason for this was a conflict in the leadership in IRI about how to deal with EU. Mr. Ahmadinjead was recommending the war in Lebanon instead for negotiations. And that is what happened. Also Mr. Ahmadinejad was behind the Pakistani terror bombings of Mumbai. Pakistan was probalby carrying out these bombings at the request of Mr. Ahmadinejad. All these manuevers were to strenghten the hands of Mr. Ahmadinejad in the ruling elite. Also he went to Azerbaijan with his Pan-Turkist slogans. To understand these developments read this text: [img] President Ahmadinejad is showing grey wolves pan-turkist sign in Azerbaijan. Ahmadinejad speaks fluent Azeri Turk language and is an Azeri Turk. Grey Wolves are Pan-Turkist nationalist. Mr. Ahmadinejad is a Pan-Turkist. But he is not a secular Pan-Turkist. Iran is planning to destablize Turkey and impose a Taliban state on Turkey. Recent developments in Lebanon has started the process in Turkey with mass demonstrations. Mr. Ahmadinejad is seeking the talibanization of the whole region from Afghanistan to Turkey. That is what is going on. This is Pan-Turkism in reverse. Pan-Turkism by Anatolian turks aims to bring secular turkish states in the region. Pan-Turkism in Iran aims at to impose a Taliban state on neighboring countries. Also you should follow their politics in Iraq and Lebanon. More long term targets for Talibalization are both Pakistan and Suadi Arabia. Parts of US government together with CIA are planning a massive Talibanization of the whole region from Turkey to Iraq to Iran to Afghanistan even going into central Asia. The aim of this Talibanization is get control the oil resources in the Middle East with the least costs. This is the "Greater Middle East Project" or "Taliban European Union" for Middle East by US. The "Taliban European Union" is supposed to limit the influence of Europeans in the Middle East. To do this it is necessary to remove all Secular states in the region. Turkey is the primary target. But even countries such as Pakistan and Suadi Arabia are considered as "Secular states" in this scheme. To do this Mr. Ahmadinejad is promoted as the "champion of Moslems" in the Middle East. The Lives of the Arab Palestians and the people of Lebanon is used as the business assets of Mr. Ahmadinejad. US had no plan to install secular states or democracy in the region. This also avoids direct US military intervention. Mr. Ahmadinejad is going to carry out these plans on behalf of the US. After starting the war in Lebanon, the Azeri Turk Mr. Ahmadinejad went to Tajikstan as some kind of "Cyrus the Great, The King of Persian Empire". To understand the theory behind these developments, check sources on Mr. Brezhinski , advisor to President Carter who is the creator of these theories. The "Islamic Green Belt" theory was originally directed at the Soviet Union. Today it is directed also at Europeans. Both Taliban in Afghanistan and the "Islamic Revolution in Iran" are the results of these theories. Both Russians, Chinese and Europeans have exposed these American plans. The regime in Tehran have the support of Jews internationally to carry out these plans. Just check latest articles in New York times about Lebanon. The Policy of Turkification of Iran http://azeriturks.blogspot.com
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| Quote: Trap in Lebanon It seems that Lebanon was a trap for Mr. Ahmadinejad. One of the conditions for the normalizations or Iran relation with west offered by Europeans was to cut off aid to Hezbollah. Mr. Ahmadinejad beleived that a short war would serve his purpose. It seems Israel has destroyed a lot of Hezbollah infrastructure in Lebanon and have started to isolate them politically. This trend would undermine the position of Mr. Ahmadinejad in Iran's leadership. Mr. Ahmadinejad is looking desperately for a cease-fire now. [img] |
| Newsweek Interview with Hossein Shariatmadari How do you define America's "greater Middle East plan"? This is an American plan to create a safety zone for Israel. The plan has three axes: One, Israel. Two, an American military force stationed in the region to be ready to help Israel and three, transforming the countries of the region to sterile secular governments. All these three goals have not been realized. Israel does not have the security that it aspired to have. Americans are in a quagmire in Afghanistan and Iraq. Also, as you can see, there are Islamic movements from Algeria to Turkey .A new Middle East is being shaped now-not one led by the Americans but by the Islamic Republic of Iran. |
| Who is Shariatmadari Sanctions Dont Mean Anything A representative of Iran's supreme leader discusses why Tehran won't give up its uranium enrichment plans, the effect of the Israel-Hizbullah conflict and relations with the United States. WEB EXCLUSIVE By Nisid Hajari and Maziar Bahari Newsweek Updated: 2:44 p.m. MT Aug 1, 2006 Aug. 1, 2006 - Hossein Shariatmadari is much more than a journalist. The president of the conservative Kayhan group of newspapers and magazines has traditionally been a mouthpiece for the regime in Tehran, and is appointed personally by Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khameini. |
| Oslonor: The interview Shows clearly what Azeri Turk regime in Tehran is suggesting. It confirms the previous analysis. Azeri Turks are suggesting "The Great Middle East Plan" under an Islamic cover instead for secular one. The "Taliban Middle East" has the support of parts of US government, The CIA and the Jewish Lobby in US. The "Taliban Middle East Plan" under the leadership of Azeri Turks in Tehran would eliminate the need for US military intervention and provides secure oil supply and control at the cheapest price for US at the expense of Europe, Russia and China. It will also expand into the central asia in subsequent stages. All this is achieved with some simple slogans about "Zionism" "Jihad" and "Islam" entertaining people with demonstrations against the "Great Satan" on the streets of the middle east. To increase the drama it is also necessary to shoot some rockets at Israel once in a while. |
Two days before the war started, Mr. Larijani the national security president of Iran was on the way to negotiate with European Union on the nuclear issue. Mr. Ahmadinejad went to airport and with a gun threat took Mr. Larijani out of the plane in Tehran. This was reported in the mass media in Iran. The reason for this was a conflict in the leadership in IRI about how to deal with EU. Mr. Ahmadinjead was recommending the war in Lebanon instead for negotiations. And that is what happened. Also Mr. Ahmadinejad was behind the Pakistani terror bombings of Mumbai. Pakistan was probalby carrying out these bombings at the request of Mr. Ahmadinejad. All these manuevers were to strenghten the hands of Mr. Ahmadinejad in the ruling elite.
Thanks for posting this!
This whole claim is as bullshitty as bullshit can get. The IRanian regime telling the Pakistani ISI to bomb Mumbai is as fantastic as it can get. The regime runs a big risk in doing something like that. And what is this Pan-Turk crap? A new "fear-factor" like the Zionist fear factor before the NAzis did what they did?
I am not a fan of this regime and I hate it. But lets be rational in our hatred. This article really makes no sense and doesn't explain the way things are unfolding.
Ping!
First of all Iran and Pakistan are in alliance to destablize Afghanistan and divide it between the two countries. India is trying to stablize Afghanistan and consequently is on the same side as US. Secondly India canceled the Gas deal with Iran and was going to buy the Gas from Turkemenistan through Afghanistan. Thirdly all these events happened just days prior to war in Lebanon. Fourthly the Azeri regime in Tehran was carrying out distractions from the nuclear issue and provoking conflicts all around in the region. This would neutralize American response as US is not capable to deal with multiple centers of conflict at the same time. No. The motives for bombings in Mumbai does not look strange at all.
You are welcome to make logical points and please avoid using slogan such as "Zionist" , "Nazis" and "Pan-Turk crap" as you have not explained your views.
Ok, you're right in that I havent substantiated my views and was wrong to dismiss the article as crap without having done so. So my apologies.
First of all Iran and Pakistan are in alliance to destablize Afghanistan and divide it between the two countries. India is trying to stablize Afghanistan and consequently is on the same side as US.
1) I agree that there is some truth to this in that Iran would like to see America fail in Afghanistan, but don't think for a moment that they will co operate with Taliban to do this. The Iranians are Shiite. Taliban is Sunni. In Pakistan atleast, barring the "modern-minded" military, the ISI and the radicals hate the Shiites as much as they hate the Hindus. Everyday, shiites in Pakistan are murdered. So although the objective of the ISI and the Islmaist radicals are same as that of Iran, they will not cooperate for this. An example is S. Arabia's criticism of Hezbollah. Its the same Sunni-Shiite politics. If you notice, the Al-Qaeda (Sunnis) fled to Pakistan where they are "hunted" instead of going to Iran where they could have expected the US not to follow. Iran does not have territorial or influential ambitions in Sunni Afghanistan, they'll get butchered the day they try this, even Taliban will be considered better than submitting to Shiites.
Secondly India canceled the Gas deal with Iran and was going to buy the Gas from Turkemenistan through Afghanistan.
2) True, but there are no direct frontiers between India and Afghanistan. Such a pipeline will have to go through Pakistan, so it stands to gain anyway. It doesn't have to do it at the bidding of Shiite Iran, which most PAkistanis don't like anyway. If you noticed, the bombings were sophisticated. It would have taken atleast a year of planning. I don't think Iran had these designs that far back. At best, it could have pushed the button, but this is unlikely.
3) India has been smart enough to disguise its withdrawal from the pipe-line project a a matter of price. It is actually now the Iranians who don't want to go ahead because the Indians tweaked the price aspect taking advantage of a certain loop-hole in the agreement. So in the end, it was Mottaki who said that Iran can't supply at th price India wanted.
Thirdly all these events happened just days prior to war in Lebanon.
4) I agree that the Lebanon attack was orchestrated at the bidding of the Iranians, but if you think they have the kind of intelligence and terror network to pull one off in India which till then was a "friendly" country, you are giving them too much credit for what they are worth.
Fourthly the Azeri regime in Tehran was carrying out distractions from the nuclear issue and provoking conflicts all around in the region. This would neutralize American response as US is not capable to deal with multiple centers of conflict at the same time. No. The motives for bombings in Mumbai does not look strange at all.
5) Yes, here you have a point. But in this you are expecting that the Americans will actually get involved and take sides in the event of a war between India and Pakistan. At worst, it will mean that Pakistan will pull out its troops from the Anti-Al Qaeda operations near the Afghan border. NATO is already increasing its presence in Afghanistan and the Americans are getting enough support there. Another point to make is currently the biggest threat to Afghanistan is the Taliban. The Pakistanis are going slow on the Taliban. They are not showing the same zeal as when they were hitting Al Qaeda. The Al Qaeda is not the same as it was when America attacked Afghanistan. They are more dispersed now than the Taliban which is actually resurgent. So Pakistani troops are of little help to America right now anyway.
I am an Indian and I sincerely wish that the Americans get the Iranians and that our government goes after the Pakistanis behind the Mumbai blasts, but I am not convinced there s an Iranian hand in this.
You are welcome to make logical points and please avoid using slogan such as "Zionist" , "Nazis" and "Pan-Turk crap" as you have not explained your views.
6) I apologise again.
Just a question. I thought the IRanians are Farsi and not Turk. Can you clarify the difference between PAn-Turk and Farsi. I am at a loss here.
I know the Iranians and the Turks are a different ethnic group. I wasn't aware that the regime in Iran is of turkish ethnicity.
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Sure. Actually Azeri Turks are a majority. I explain this in two blogs.
Persians and Hollywood
http://oslonor.blogspot.com
The Policy of Turkification in Iran
http://azeriturks.blogspot.com
Al Qaida leadership has fled to Iran and Tehran regime supports Mr. Hekmatyar in Afghanistan.
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