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ISLAM:What the West Needs to Know
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Posted on 11/11/2006 7:55:59 AM PST by kronos77

Main IdeaVirtually every major Western leader has over the past several years expressed the view that Islam is a peaceful religion and that those who commit violence in its name are fanatics who misinterpret its tenets. This claim, while widely circulated, rarely attracts serious public examination.

ContentThe documentary consists of original interviews, citations from Islamic texts, Islamic artwork, computer-animated maps, footage of Western leaders, and Islamic television broadcasts. Its tone is sober, methodical, and compelling. Outline of the Documentary

IntroductionWe hear from prominent Western leaders that Islam is peaceful and that those who commit violence in its name are heterodox fanatics.

Part 1: ‘There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his Prophet’Our interviewees affirm their belief that Islamic violence is entirely orthodox behavior for Muslims and stems directly from the teachings and example of the Prophet Muhammad and the commands of the Koran. We learn that the example of Muhammad is one of a violent warlord who killed numerous people. The Koran – the verbatim words of Allah – prescribes violence against non-Muslims and Muhammad is the perfect example of the Koran in action.

Part 2: The StruggleWe learn that jihad, while literally meaning 'struggle', in fact denotes war fought against non-Muslims in order to bring the rule of Islamic law to the world. Violent death in jihad is, according to the Koran, the only assurance of salvation. One of our interviewees tells of his personal involvement in terrorism and his leaving Islam.

Part 3: ExpansionFollowing the death of Muhammad, his 'rightly-guided' successors carried his wars to three continents, fighting, enslaving, and massacring countless Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, and others. Islam did not spread through evangelism or through its natural appeal, but through aggressive wars of conquest.

(Excerpt) Read more at whatthewestneedstoknow.com ...


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KEYWORDS: corruption; eurabia; globaljihad; gwot; hadiths; islam; islamofascism; jihad; kosovo; muslim; nukemecca; religionofpeace; rop; terror; terrorism; trop; wot
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1 posted on 11/11/2006 7:56:01 AM PST by kronos77
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...
Must see movie about Islam ant danger of becoming slaves to fore mentioned
2 posted on 11/11/2006 7:57:28 AM PST by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org and www.kosovo.net Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77

Multiple Choice Test

1. In 1968, Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated in Los Angeles by
(a) Superman,
(b) Jay Leno,
(c) Tiger Woods,
(d) a man from Palestine between 17 and 40 years old.

2. In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were kidnapped and killed at the Munich Olympics by
(a) the kid who cuts your grass,
(b) Sitting Bull,
(c) Arnold Schwarzenegger,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

3. In 1979, the US Embassy in Tehran was over-ran & 52 Americans were held for 444 days by
(a) Bruce Lee,
(b) Elvis Presley's deceased twin brother,
(c) a tour group of Minnesota grandmothers,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

4. During the 1980s, several Americans were kidnapped in Beirut by
(a) O J Simpson,
(b) the king of Sweden,
(c) the pope and a gang of Cardinals,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

5. In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Lebanon was blown up, killing 220 Marines, by
(a) a Domino's Pizza delivery man,
(b) the president of the Southern Baptist Convention,
(c) Catherine Zeta-Jones,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

6. In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70-year-old American passenger thrown overboard in his wheelchair by
(a) Sugar Ray Leonard,
(b) your next door neighbor,
(c) the Little Mermaid,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

7. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens and a U.S. Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by
(a) Captain Kangaroo,
(b)Walt Disney,
(c) Mother Teresa,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

8. In 1988, Pan American Flight 103 was destroyed by a bomb in midair by
(a) Butch Cassidy,
(b) the Sundance Kid,
(c) the Tooth Fairy,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

9. The World Trade Center was bombed the first time in 1993 by
(a) Stonewall Jackson,
(b) Michael Jordan,
(c) Winston Churchill,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

10. In 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by
(a) Santa Claus,
(b) your sister's cat's grandmother's first owner's son's basketball coach's ex-wife,
(c) the World Wrestling Federation,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

11. On September 11, 2001, airliners were hijacked to crash into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon by
(a) Bugs Bunny,
(b) Bob the Tomato,
(c) Ricky Martin,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

12. In 2002, Daniel Pearl of the Wall Street Journal was kidnapped and beheaded by
(a) Bonnie and Clyde,
(b) the Michelin man,
(c) Barney Fife,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

13. In July of 2005, several targets were attacked in central London, killing 52 persons, by
(a) the Orkin Man,
(b) Margaret Thatcher,
(c) Mr. Goodwrench,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.


3 posted on 11/11/2006 7:57:51 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: kronos77
Read Mark Steyn's book "America Alone" to calculate when the end of Western civilization will come.
4 posted on 11/11/2006 8:01:20 AM PST by blam
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To: kronos77

This is why voting was important. Because the Democrats were elected and will now take back power in January, the Islamic Fascist see us as weak.

God Help This Country. If we are seen as weak, then how will the rest of the world fight off this Terrorist threat? The answer is, they won't.


5 posted on 11/11/2006 8:03:13 AM PST by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: kronos77

The C-SPAN interview with Robert Spencer (which is linked from the above site) is well worth the time spent watching, about an hour.


6 posted on 11/11/2006 8:05:30 AM PST by angkor
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To: blam

A sad side note to the destruction of America will be the fight inside the Democratic party between the Muslims and the pro-homo crowd. It will be curious to watch how the MSM whores will cover the fight between their two favorite partners.


7 posted on 11/11/2006 8:07:54 AM PST by ScubieNuc
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To: blam

8 posted on 11/11/2006 8:09:37 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: kronos77

I learned everything I need to know about it on 9/11.


9 posted on 11/11/2006 8:12:22 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: george76

Russia is rapidly de-populating...I don't know what exactly will happen there. They won't have the population to even sustain a military force of any consequence.


10 posted on 11/11/2006 8:16:22 AM PST by blam
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To: george76

Great add to thread. Let the Freepers keep adding to your multiple chilce quizz...it could go on forever...

(1) Which fighting force uses women and children as shields?
(a) Napolean's army
(b) the Apache
(c) the Samurai
(d) men in the Mideast who wear diapers on their head


11 posted on 11/11/2006 8:24:34 AM PST by gallaxyglue (Have we lost our civilization as we know it?)
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To: gallaxyglue

Thanks.

The list is into the thousands.

add the USS Cole,

Nick Berg's beheading,

the Barcelona bombings...

May 13,1981, 23-year-old Turkish terrorist Mehmet Ali Agca shot Pope John Paul II three times.

Sgt. Hasan Akbar stole grenades and attacked fellow members of the 101st just days into the March 2003 invasion of Iraq. In addition to the two people killed, 14 soldiers were injured.

and John Allen Muhammad, 41, and John Lee Malvo, 17, The DC snipers.


12 posted on 11/11/2006 8:27:44 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: blam

The Russia birth rate can not maintain their current population numbers.

They are aborting their own future.

except for the Muzzies who are reproducing and who will take over much of Russia too.


13 posted on 11/11/2006 8:30:33 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: kronos77
Everything I need to know about Islamo Fascism, I learned on 9/11.
14 posted on 11/11/2006 8:31:11 AM PST by NavVet (O)
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To: NavVet

15 posted on 11/11/2006 8:33:37 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Really. You have to be a real stooge to miss the connection you so aptly illustrate.


16 posted on 11/11/2006 8:36:39 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse (Unite)
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To: Paige
"God help this county. If we are seen as weak then how will the rest of the world fight off this terrorist threat?"

Good question. We are the supposed "Super Power" but we lose the Iraq war. Talk about encouraging terrorist recruitment-"We defeated the great Satan in Iraq- join us-Allah Akhbar". If they can beat us- they can beat everyone. I'm suprised they haven't made their move in Europe-especially France- should be an easy take over.

The worst part is, most of the democrats think this is just some little problem that can be solved with diplomacy. Did you hear Bill Clinton's joke about it? "You'll be running from a terrorist and trip over an illegal immigrant." It seems sort of funny at first-but- really-it shows that the dems don't think the terrorist threat is real. That's what they've been telling the public, since 9/11-it was just a one time event-nothing to worry about.

Scary. "God Help Us" is right

17 posted on 11/11/2006 9:21:08 AM PST by Pajamajan (SOS ReCALL)
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To: mtbopfuyn
ditto!!!

Everything I need to know about Islam, I learned on 9/11.

18 posted on 11/11/2006 9:22:09 AM PST by stockstrader ("Where government advances--and it advances relentlessly--freedom is imperiled"-Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: kronos77
massacring countless Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, and others

Bogomils? Whatever happened to them?

19 posted on 11/11/2006 9:24:16 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: kronos77

Class let us learn and understand what the west needs to know about islam...

The five pillars of Islam..... murder, bestiality, terrorism, cowardice and abuse of women and children.

Know islam, no peace;
No islam, know peace

If the Arabs put down their guns, there would be no more violence.
If the Israelis put down their guns, there would be no more Israel.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

Class dismissed!!!


20 posted on 11/11/2006 9:47:55 AM PST by hnj_00
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To: kronos77

Islam and its subscribers are pure evil....that is all I need to know.


21 posted on 11/11/2006 9:49:32 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: He Rides A White Horse

22 posted on 11/11/2006 9:54:39 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; SoldierDad; leadpenny
Darn....now this is scary!

SoldierDad and leadpenny...please thank your son's for what they do. Your family is protecting my family from these rabid killers.
23 posted on 11/11/2006 10:00:54 AM PST by Chgogal (Pelosi, what do you have against a Free Iraq? How are you going to fight terrorism Pelosi?)
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To: george76

Great post. But don't forget Pope John Paul II shot in Rome in 1981 by (d).


24 posted on 11/11/2006 10:02:54 AM PST by carola
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To: blam

it has been said that the chinese are taking over siberia.


25 posted on 11/11/2006 10:06:36 AM PST by telemachus
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To: kronos77
If you have not read Robert Spencer's "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades)" and "The Truth about Mohammed" then I highly recommend that you consider adding these two books to your library and that you read them as soon as possible. These two books will put an end to any "religion of peace" understanding of Mohammedanism.
26 posted on 11/11/2006 10:07:06 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Mohammed Lied; Jesus Died (For Your Sins) and Rose Again.)
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To: carola

Thanks.

May 13,1981, 23-year-old Turkish terrorist Mehmet Ali Agca shot Pope John Paul II three times.


27 posted on 11/11/2006 10:09:48 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: telemachus
"it has been said that the chinese are taking over siberia."

Steyn says in his book that Russia will realize that their best deal is to sell Siberia (natural resources rich) to China (as they did Alaska to the US) because when the Chinese want it, Russia couldn't defend it and may as well get some cash for it.

28 posted on 11/11/2006 10:16:36 AM PST by blam
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To: kronos77

Bangkok- Buddhist monks have put away their alms bowls in the south of Thailand amid escalating violence in the majority-Muslim region that on Saturday claimed the lives of two police officers.

Naratiwat Buddhist authorities announced that followers of the religion wishing to make food donations to monks would have to go to the temples as it had become too dangerous for the monks to make their early morning rounds, said the state-run Thai News Agency (TNA).

Narathiwat is one of three provinces that comprise Thailand's deep South, where 80 per cent of the two million residents are Muslim. The other two provinces are Pattani and Yala.

More than 1,700 people have died in the three-province area since January, 2004, when a long-simmering separatist struggle took a turn for the worse.

On Saturday, in the latest spate of attacks on authorities, four gunmen armed with M-16 automatic rifles opened fire on two policemen in Yala's Yaha district, wounding them before slashing them to death and making off with the sidearms, said TNA.

Earlier this week threats against Bhuddists in Bannang Sata district of Yala forced 120 non-Muslims to flee their homes for safety.

Buddhist monks have been the target of beheadings and bombing in the past three years in the region, where attacks on religious leaders and civilians were once avoided.


29 posted on 11/11/2006 10:21:05 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: kronos77

I just ordered the CD of "Islam: What the West Needs to Know" a couple of days ago, but haven't received it yet.

There is a very long clip of it (if not the whole film) here: http://www.bolt.com/samhamburgerspam/video/What_The_West_Needs_To_Kn/2517600 I watched here and it made want to buy the film.


30 posted on 11/11/2006 10:21:14 AM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: kronos77

I'm really tired of all these articles about what the west needs to know about Islam. I think the west knows all it needs to know. Certainly, in the US, we learned more than we needed to know about Islam on 9/11 - nothing has changed.

It's time for Islam to understand that the west knows them better than they think we do. We know Islam to be a cult of death, slavery, murder, oppression, hate and abuse. The practitioners of Islam live in the 7th century reality that they created for themselves and can't deal with the fact that civilization and the rest of the world passed them by well over 1,000 years ago. We don't need to know about Islam, Islam needs to catch up on over 1,400 years of history and civilization and try to live in the 21st century.

Frankly, I'm NOT optimistic.


31 posted on 11/11/2006 10:29:12 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: kronos77

There may indeed be moderate Muslims, but there is no moderate Islam. [Mark Steyn]


32 posted on 11/11/2006 10:33:35 AM PST by Ramius
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To: kronos77

That was quite an eye opener. I had no idea that Islam used the Bible in their perverted book, the Koran.


33 posted on 11/11/2006 10:38:26 AM PST by sokit2mebb
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To: kronos77

That was quite an eye opener. I had no idea that Islam used the Bible in their perverted book, the Koran.


34 posted on 11/11/2006 10:38:27 AM PST by sokit2mebb
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To: DustyMoment
It's time for Islam to understand that the west knows them better than they think we do. We know Islam to be a cult of death, slavery, murder, oppression, hate and abuse.

I agree with you, totally. The reason Muslims hate us so much, is because we know the truth about Islam and we want no part of it. Well, that is, no one except that bunch of idiots who 'rule' us from DC. While they're scheming on how to appease Islamics, Islamics are planning to kill all of us. Hopefully, they start with those 'rulers' because they're the ones who should/could have protected Americans, before it became too late. I said "became too late as in past tense, because I think those Islamic terrorists are already in the US, and they will kill as many Americans as possible before long. Now, the 'powers to be' have met with Muslim leaders in the US, which is a sign that there's going to be much more appeasement with the Democrats in power than there has been under the Bush doctrine of appeasement.

35 posted on 11/11/2006 10:49:37 AM PST by sokit2mebb
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To: george76
Re: Your post #3.

The list says it all. It should be handed out as a multiple choice test to the House and Senate members.

President Bush HAS TO MAKE THE DEMOCRATS UNDERSTAND THE TERRORIST THREAT.

FIRST PRIORITY: the movie "Obsession"
needs to be shown to ALL members of congress. It must be shown during a session-Make sure EVERY member watches the film- No excuses. They don't want to face this. They have to see what the threat is. "Obsession" and film "Islam: What the the West needs to know"- help to make it clear. You can't just tell them - they won't believe it.

If I were president Bush, I'd show "Obsession", then have discussion afterward . He has to make them wake up .The threat of radical Islam is not "politics".
IT IS REAL.

The dems are in charge of Congress now. They are responsible for protecting this nation.
(It scares the living hell out of me to have to write the previous two sentences-a GREAT BIG THANK YOU AGAIN-to all you Christians and other stayed-home protest voters.)

36 posted on 11/11/2006 10:58:53 AM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for president Bush-pray for our military-pray for our congresss-pray for our nation)
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To: DustyMoment

One thing I do know, how to reload .308 and 5.56.

Its our job to keep our leaders from being maipulated by outside sources, everyone has a weakness especially those that crave power.

The democrats have obviously the Muslim support in as much the equal to making a pact with the devil, I would even propose that a person with strong presidential ambitions may have had or is seeking alternative ways to achieve that position even if it requires siding with Muslim leaders, protecting them, giving them positions of influence in our government and of course getting their votes my means of the sheer mass that are now allowed to enter the US.

Its comforting to know there is still the death penalty for treason.


37 posted on 11/11/2006 11:20:48 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: sokit2mebb
I think the West should abandon using the term islam or islamic and revert back to what they were called in the Middle Ages "mohammedans" and their nasty cult as "mohammedanism". mohammedans do not like the term.
And the term terrorist should be amended in all our dictionaries as a synonym for mohammedan(s), a follower of the cult of mohammedism. And vica-a-versa, mohammedan - a terrorist.
38 posted on 11/11/2006 12:05:57 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC Back to basics)
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placemark


39 posted on 11/11/2006 12:14:21 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: blam; cardinal4
That was Napoleon's reasoning when he "unloaded" the Louisiana Territory on Thomas Jefferson.

I seem to remember hearing reports of open warfare being waged in the Soviet Far East against the CHICOMS back in the late 1960s/early 1970s along the Amur River.

40 posted on 11/11/2006 12:29:58 PM PST by Ax (Cheer, cheer, for Old Notre Dame.)
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To: george76
1. In 1968, Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated in Los Angeles by

(a) Superman,

(b) Jay Leno,

(c) Tiger Woods,

(d) a man from Palestine between 17 and 40 years old.

A CHRISTIAN man from Palestine between 17 and 40 years old. That's what you meant right?

41 posted on 11/11/2006 12:49:59 PM PST by zimdog
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To: zimdog

42 posted on 11/11/2006 12:54:47 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: zimdog; george76

Except Christians don't assassinate politicians. Yeah, they have rules against that kind of thing.


43 posted on 11/11/2006 12:55:16 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: george76

On the subject of terrorism, Yitzhak Rabin was murdered by a terrorist between the ages of 17 and 40. I think I see a pattern here...


44 posted on 11/11/2006 12:55:54 PM PST by zimdog
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To: george76

I'll take that as an open-mouth stare.


45 posted on 11/11/2006 12:57:27 PM PST by zimdog
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To: FormerLib

Ha.


46 posted on 11/11/2006 12:57:50 PM PST by zimdog
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To: zimdog

47 posted on 11/11/2006 12:59:22 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: FormerLib

I think george76's post above was commenting on the fact that Sirhan Sirhan was a Christian is "not the best ad for the supposed peacefulness of Christianity."


48 posted on 11/11/2006 12:59:52 PM PST by zimdog
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To: george76

Are you threatening to beat me?


49 posted on 11/11/2006 1:00:27 PM PST by zimdog
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To: zimdog

Except that a Christian will tell you that an unrepentant assassin will not enter the Kingdom of God while a Muslim will tell you that they actually get preferential treatment there.


50 posted on 11/11/2006 1:08:35 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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