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Posted on 12/06/2006 1:44:01 PM PST by FARS
SERIOUS CHATTER INDICATES SOME HEAVY DUTY EVENTS ARE ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE IN OR RELATIVE TO IRAN.
Far bigger activity than Human Rights student demonstrations scheduled for Iran today. More when I get clearer details but it appears some serious political activity or plan has come into play.
As a side bar, note Iran has virtually stopped accepting Dollars for oil payments being made to it. This unlinking of the dollar from oil can create a worldwide disaster as the Dollar loses its underpinning - oil.
NOTE: the Dollar has already lost strength against other currencies in the past couple of weeks.
Central Banks would begin to lighten their Dollar holdings to minimize their losses as the value of the dollar declines, putting ever more pressure on the Dollar.
Even creating a run on it, similar to a run on a bank which becomes insolvent and depositors rushing to withdraw their money. Destabilizing the bank even further.
The downward spiral of the Dollar will soon drag down other currencies. One of the reasons we went into Iraq was to prevent this slippery slope. Russia, Saddam Hussein and a couple of other countries like Nigeria had put selling their oil mostly in Euros on the table.
Had OPEC been allowed to follow suit, the whole world, not just the USA would have suffered inconceivable economical dislocation.
Go to "Oil Story Revisited" via the Archive Details link in the left hand column. Far more dangerous than nuclear weapons, if the dollar crashes - and under some circumstances it will be hard, or impossible, to prevent this. The world economy crashes with it.
Because there was some vestige of sanity in the old Iranian Mullah leadership, till about a year ago, when Ahmadi-Nejad was "selected" President, mostly to protect their own enormous wealth, the Mullahs were careful not to destabilize the value of the Dollar.
Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, who was a destitute cleric at the time of the 1979 Khomeini revolution, fairly recently moved some two BILLION Dollars of personal assets from various holdings around the world into a couple of Moslem Asian countries like Malaysia, Brunei and also Singapore.
(Ahmadi-Nejad - on behalf of Iran, emptied Swiss bank vaults of gold bullion owned by Iran at around the same time).
Khamenei used to live in a two room dwelling in the poorest part of town feeding himself and his family through sporadic, tiny, charitable donations in the city of Mash'had in North-East Iran.
His only income came from joining (unsolicited) a multiple of other insignificant clerics at burials, following the casket or shroud to the grave and singing "dirges" hoping to receive a tip from the family and mourners.
Were it not "religious" we would rightly term it begging.
By contrast, Ahmadi-Nejad, also coming from an impoverished family has lived frugally all his life, owns little or nothing and cannot imagine not being able to supply himself with the unleavened bread and Fetta cheese, tea and daily stew on which he lives. World crash or no world crash.
Interestingly, when "ayatollah" Khamenei was an indigent cleric, he was asked his philosophy about how he might operate were he to wake up and find himself the most powerful man in Iran. The allegory used was "find himself in the shoes of the Shah".
After protests he could not imagine himself in such a high position, he stated he would take the wealth of the nation and distribute it all among the populace, specially the poor, so nobody would have to face the misery and poverty he was enduring.
Look at the misery, torture, imprisonment and poverty he has inflicted since then on his erstwhile (beloved??) fellow citizens.
He showed the same mentality and ignorance of fiscal and economical requirements that Khomeini did when he arrived on scene in 1979. Both these ignorant clerics could recite the Koran but in all other subjects knew next to nothing - and I am not exaggerating. They resemble students who go to school forever but only study one subject - philosophy - to the exclusion of everything else.
Shortly after his return, Khomeini responded to a question about Iran's forthcoming budget, with "I have it on a piece of paper in my pocket!" Referring to what required several thick volumes (just as indexes) and suitcases in which to carry them to the Majliss (parliament) for ratification.
By the way, the self-righteous Ahmadi-Nejad, apparently is not as righteous as he pretends, reportedly passing sizeable contracts to his brother while mayor of Tehran and according to some sources lining his own pockets.
And the pockets of the representative of the Hojatieh spiritual leader, Mohammad Taghi Mesbah Yazdi, attached his personal office/secretariat and "keeper of the gate" without whose approval nobody gets to see Ahmadi-Nejad.
Not even his own staff or Cabinet Ministers.
Putting all this into perspective, Ahmadi-Nejad has suddenly ratcheted up his threats to cover the whole Western civilization, not just Israel, disappearing from the face of the earth. He only has a half dozen nukes, so he is certainly referring to his oil/currency disruptive capability.
A far deadlier weapon than the subject of nuclear weapons, which has kept focus off the radar screen of the news media, tactical and strategic analysts, intel assessments and those in power.
Hopefully, the new Democrat Congress will get over their myopic Bush bashing and rise to the occasion and literally help save the world.
If they wish to be around long enough to enjoy their win. Not politically but in real life as millions of Americans lose jobs, incomes etc., which even the US government cannot help overcome with Welfare or soup kitchens.
This applies in Spades to the European Union that still has its head stuck deep in the sand, pretending it cannot happen, when it certainly will. Unless stopped just as drastically as the drastic consequences of not doing so.
Hitler will have been a walk in the park compared to what we are about to receive.
I ask this question of all readers: better destroy 400,000 Revolutionary Guards and all of their equipment (simply burying the entrances to nuclear facilities will suffice for now on that aspect), perhaps inflict somewhere in the region of 40,000 civilian deaths as collateral damage and thus open the way for a suddenly freed populace to rise up and destroy the Mullahs - or play nice and civilized (they do not) and suffer tens of millions, perhaps hundreds of millions of casualties around the globe, in death and suffering when the global economy crashes?
Inconceivable? Not if you follow the dotted lines and know your global economy and how fragile it really is. There is not enough money in the world to buy up suddenly available dollars to bolster the currency, even if every Central Bank decided to do that instead of divesting itself out of self-preservation.
Think carefully about being goody-goody two shoes in this clash of cultures led by an Islamic nutcase.
I'm headed out to jump off a bridge. It's the end of the world as we know it!
You won't have to. It will be done for you. Seriously, this is not a "sky falling down" commentary.
There's always the secret moon base...
As long as your secret decoder ring works at the door.
Gee .. aren't you just full of cheery news
I think I'm going to go hide under my bed for a bit
The Iranians moving to a euro or gold basis for oil transactions is not news. They have been threatening to do it for a long time. I wasnt aware they had started to do it though. If so, it WILL lead to war. Its boring, mind numbing economics, but it will take control out of our hands and that, put simply, is not acceptable.
Did it strike anyone watching how many world leaders Bush and his crew have met with in the past two or three weeks. They are all very friendly, short, "how's ya doin'" type meetings. Methinks there is something more in the works than whining about Iraq.
Unfortunately, I think Iraq will be little potatoes in the next six months.
Interesting. Thanks for posting.
Relegated to Bloggers, though it's editorial and based on feedback from inside Iran and some contacts outside. The AntiMullah source link has generally been accepted as a valid one by FR in the past. Different Moderator today perhaps.
An editorial from Investors.com is on active News so not a blog or is it?
Somehow we fail to conceive the extent of lunacy Iran can turn out to destroy us.
I'm serious! I'm jumping!
After I buy dollars!
Perspective my friend!
Chicken Little Lives
B-U-Y M-O-R-E O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E
I keep having dreams where I'm working in Iran.
After...something has happened there.
That's like saying I'm going to buy a house that's burning to the ground. Great perspective. Even the land value will not cover the price you pay.
The real big announcement isn't due until Feb, according to Ahmadinejad.
However, the Assembly of Experts election is only 9 days away.
And I feel fine.
Are you walking on glass?
It will in California...
Thanks for the ping..........i think?
The one thing the world doesn't understand is that in a depression, the US will still survive.
This is from today's patriot post http://patriotpost.us/pub/06-49_Chronicle-print.htm
Very hardheaded realist terms: interest, stability, regional powers. But stringing them together to suggest that Iran and Syria share our interests in stability is the height of fantasy. In fact, Iran and Syria have an overriding interest in chaos in Iraqwhich is precisely why they each have been abetting the insurgency and fanning civil war. Perhaps in some long-term future they will want a stable Iraq as a tame client state of the Syria-Iran axis. For now they want chaos. What in Gods name will a negotiation with them yield? Charles Krauthammer
There is growing evidence that US pressure on Iran is having an impact on what had been Iran's major conduits to the rest of the world through the City of London. They seem to be pulling out of Iran-related business right and left. As one senior anonymous London banker is quoted as saying to The Independent, "The consequences of not toeing the American line on Iran have not been made clear, but we were left in no doubt that we might not want to find out."
December 4, 2006 02:58 PM
It did yesterday, tomorrow might be at issue.
If 'the world' doesn't understand, then the world just might go ahead and do it.
Could also be that the sick banking system of China is about to have a major hiccup.
LOL! Are you back in the States yet?
The Lunacy of Iran won't kill us, the Lunacy of the LEFT will!
If genuine men, who had a sense of just what is coming would wake up and demand that immediate steps be taken to prepare for open warfare with Islam, we need not fear Islam.
However, the Neville Chamberlain Democrat Party will see to it that Feminists will be wearing Burkhas before 2009 innauguration day...as a sign of tolerance.
Sunlight is ~1 kW/m^2 at peak, and only on during the day, and only about .2 of that averaged over a full, sunny day. Less when there are clouds, rain, etc. These devices have holes between them, about half the area or a little less. So say 100 W/m^2 generated, average. So, to equal the power output of a 10 GW nuke, you'd need 10^8 m^2, or 10 km x 10 km of these things, 6 miles x 6 miles - about the size of a city. Care to estimate the real estate cost of that, vs. the nuke power plant? Let alone the cost of the millions of arrays? Solar energy is too dilute to run cities with, let alone nations. Individual houses, maybe, for the rich, but only for the rich. And only then with the generous tax incentives ( = market distortions) provided for "renewable" energy. It isn't environmentally friendly, though, no trees allowed, they make shade.
Sick because it has ingested too many fiat dollars, maybe.
More than that. There are a lot of "loans" made by state banks that will never be repaid. Lots of money floated out that went into vapor, never to return.
China is trying to keep the lid on.
Hitler didn't have nukes or germ bombs with a religious bent to use it. We may not have time for a Churchill, especially when it is 2 more years to find one!
And Marines were kicking ass in Guadalcanal before Patton saw combat in WWII!! :)
Just like in Iraq, the US has killed more jihadis than they have killed US troops. It's just that they have a higher willingness to lose 10,000 than we have for losing 1,000
Similarly, they will ask the next Dem president: are you willing to send the US into depression during your administration? We didn't think so
If they do, they do. You can't do much to stop people from cutting off their nose to spite their face, even if it hurts us. All we can do is pull together and survive and not worry about the crashing economies all over the world.
The $US has stabilized versus the $EU the past few days.
And does Alan Peters have a source of his own for his assertion that Iran already has half a dozen nukes?
True fact. We will complain bitterly and continue as usual, maybe cutting back on some things a little, but the emerging economies will be in flames.
Maybe I can use that old Mexican 1991 5000-peso note that I have tucked away somewhere and buy some pennies with it.
Not that he wasn't ready, willing and able all along.
I'd probably call it an Assembly of Idiots. If Iran really does start buying oil in Euros, and that severely hurts the world economy, how are they going to acquire suddenly-scarce food and gasoline for their people? Idiots.
They'd rather have millions of fellow muslims die of starvation from lack of imported food than see America continue to succeed.
Yahoo! Goods manufactured in the US will become more marketable.
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