Yeah Right.
Posted on 03/16/2007 3:57:02 PM PDT by TitansAFC
Once again taking sharp exception with the dominant conservative wing of his own party, Mr. Giuliani said in an interview that the proposed crackdown on illegal immigrants was deliberately intended to play to the public’s worst fears of foreigners and did not take into consideration the positive effects of immigrants on cities like New York.
New York Times, August 23, 1995 (Emphasis Added)
Mayor Rudolph Giuliani struck a blow for decency and common sense when he criticized Congress’s proposed crackdown on both legal and illegal immigrants….
Some of what the Mayor finds disturbing emerged from a Republican- dominated panel on immigration reform that issued its recommendations in June. Mr. Giuliani was right to characterize key parts of the package as pandering to an irrational fear of foreigners.
New York Times Editorial August 27, 1995
The Mayor did not mention the Republican Party by name and said in an interview later that he was not singling out his party or fellow politicians. Still, his defense of the United Nations’ achievements and of immigrants’ contribution to the nation marked the latest in a series of attempts by Mr. Giuliani to set himself apart from the newly dominant conservative wing of the Republican majority. Many of those Republicans want to end or cut back financing to the U.N. and favor severe immigration restrictions.
New York Times, September 20, 1995 (Emphasis Added)
Rudy would continue to make city services available to all immigrants, regardless of immigration status.
Prohibit city workers from reporting undocumented immigrants to the INS, unless criminal activity is involved….
Make sure that city workers understand what benefits immigrants are entitled to….
Encourage outreach to immigrant communities to encourage their utilization of city services….
Support the use of interpreters and translators in city government
Support bilingual and bicultural education with goals of learning fluent English and maintaining native language skills….
Oppose making English the “official language” of the U.S.
Support adding alienage to protected class under City’s Human rights Law.
The New York Immigrant Coalition Press Release, August, 1989
Rudy keeps demonstrating that he is weak when it comes to protecting this country. I would not trust him on WOT.
Screw the East Coast Liberal. So much for the so-called "Law and Order" candidate...and I'm not talkin' about Fred.
What then, may I ask, would be Giuliani's choice for an official language? Is not English already the de facto official language of the United States?
"Rudy. Liberal before liberal was cool."
He sure is an independent one. But, the Pres doesn't get to do much. Everything aside from the Commander In Chief stuff is done by Congress. The rest is for show.
All this is old news!
Instead of harping on this old news, we should be praising giuliani for all his 'accomplishments' that happened at the same time! Those things aren't old news!
Rudy has said that all immigrants must learn English. And he wants the borders closed!
China Post
Giuliani also has faced questions on illegal immigrants. He favors putting them on a path to citizenship as long as they learn English and wait their turn behind lawful immigrants --
RUDY ON IMIGRATION - FROM THE WEEKLY STANDARD
Last night, in an interview with Fox's Bill O'Reilly, Rudy Giuliani again put himself squarely in the president’s camp on immigration reform. The mayor is for tough border security, but he has also made the case in recent speeches that real reform must include a guest worker program and a “path to citizenship.” On Fox, Giuliani argued that comprehensive reform is not only practical but also aides in fighting crime and thwarting terrorists. Some highlights:
GIULIANI: Yes, yes. National Guard short-term solution makes a lot of sense. Increasing the border patrol.O'REILLY: In the long term.
GIULIANI: Long-term over a period of time would be the permanent way to do that.
But you've got to seal the border. And you've got to do it with personnel. And you've got to do it with technology. You've got to have both.
And we have to know who's in the United States. We need to have information about who's in this country. And then you have to have a way in which people can regularize themselves as well. I mean, you need to get people out from under the table.
O'REILLY: So you would give them a pathway to citizenship?
GIULIANI: I would say -- this is a classic thing where you've got to do both, carrot and stick.
O'REILLY: Yes, but you got to do -- I think the stick first.
GIULIANI: You've got to do both.
O'REILLY: You know, you stop it and then back.
When you were the mayor in New York, illegal immigration rose in this city tremendously. I mean, you can't get a cab now with an American in there.
GIULIANI: But crime declined immensely….
GIULIANI: The Immigration and Naturalization Service would only deport 1,500 to 2,000 a year. So I said to myself I have 398,00 illegal immigrants because the federal government is not going to do anything about this. It can't. So I had to figure out how do I deal with it so that I regularize them, so that I.O'REILLY: So how did you do that?
GIULIANI: They don't commit crimes. They don't - well, we made sure that their children were allowed to go to school for which we were criticized. But if I didn't do that, I would end up with children on the streets. If I had just said well, illegal immigrants can't have their children in school. And we tried to make their lives reasonable.
O'REILLY: How about city services?
GIULIANI: It would have been.
O'REILLY: Did you give them city money?
GIULIANI: Sure, we did. If they were necessary services. We allowed them, for example, to report crimes.
O'REILLY: Without being -- asked what their status was.
GIULIANI: Because we wanted the criminals who were committing the crimes.
O'REILLY: Right.
GIULIANI: A criminal can beat up an illegal immigrant today. He can beat you up tomorrow. So we need the.
O'REILLY: So you took the practical approach to it?
GIULIANI: But you've got to take a practical approach to it. There are 12 million illegals in this country. We got to stop illegals from coming in. And a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security that's needed to do that.
People and technology. At the same time, you've got this tremendous number of people who are below the table. As long as you don't know who they are, as long as you can't get them to come forward, you can't identify them, you can't photograph them, you have to figure out who they are, then you have a dangerous situation.
O'REILLY: It's interesting.
GIULIANI: Now terrorists can hide in that group.
O'REILLY: Oh, absolutely.
GIULIANI: And criminals can hide.
Yes we must wait for them to rape and steal first. How can he prohibit a city worker from talking to the INS?
"The rest is for show."
Yeah, determining who runs the BATFE and how they run it, who runs the INS / ICE programs are just 'show' things that a president does.
I don't see anything in your post than indicates he has flip-flopped.
It's all funded by Congress. Presidential appointments are also subject to approval by Congress. Even as CIC he can do only what the funding says he can do.
Strike 1 - Juli is pro-abortion and wants Federal funding for it
Strike 2 - Juli wants fudge packers to be married (and cross-dressing mayors to get free Make-overs)
Strike 3 - Juli says it ok NOT to have English as our official language
Folks - Juli is also a RINO!
I will not vote for him or McPain!
Rochester NY school board is actively promoting Ebonics: RUDY!
Maybe you think it's an excuse, or no excuse, but it's just reality. Giuliani was the successful mayor of that city, but he will never carry the city in a presidential election. This is just the political reality of how left wing NYC is..
BTW you are not going to get English as our "official" language. I am sure no candidate will have a platform on English any stronger than what Giuliani said (recently).
Then there is this from original post.
"Prohibit city workers from reporting undocumented immigrants to the INS, unless criminal activity is involved"
How do explain that? If they could not deport them, why would you even care if they report them?
Yeah Right.
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