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Captain's Quarters: Fred Wins, Chris Loses (Update: My Prediction Comes True)
Captain's Quarters ^ | 10-9-07 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 10/09/2007 6:58:46 PM PDT by STARWISE

The first debate with Fred Thompson was expected to reveal whether the lanky actor had what it takes to make a national run for the office. Instead, it revealed Chris Matthews as a hack of the first order, one who tried his best to torpedo Thompson -- and failed utterly. He got so desparate that he demanded to know whether Thompson knew who the Canadian Prime Minister was -- and he did. Matthews grew so frustrated that he openly critiqued one of Thompson's answer for being too detailed, which prompted a scolding from Thompson.

That was the game behind the debate, and Thompson stomped Matthews into a laughingstock. In the rest of the debate, Thompson showed that he was comfortable and prepared, even for the silly attacks from other candidates. Mitt Romney went into a long, telegraphed, and obviously gag-written punch about how the debates resemble "Law and Order" and how Fred shows up last, which Fred neatly returned by feigning surprise that he wasn't the best actor on the stage -- jabbing at Romney's perceived plasticness.

Rudy wisely chose to stay away from Thompson. Romney pulled Rudy into a catfight, but neither man scored a knockout punch. Rudy's team sent out a flurry of e-mails showing that Romney didn't have his facts straight, but Rudy shrugged it off anyway. He showed poise, humor, energy, and personality. He continues to show his mastery of the format.

Romney and McCain did pretty well, although they had rough spots. When asked about war powers, Romney's insistence that he would have to check with his lawyers sounded like he didn't have a firm grasp on the mechanisms of war. Fred got it right first, and McCain answered well. McCain started off shaky, with the unusual "angry man" gambit in the opening minutes, but relaxed and was much more himself.

As for the rest, well, they occupied subplots most of the evening. Paul mostly continued his odd hand-flailing and high-pitched shouting. Tancredo couldn't seem to get words out of his mouth. Brownback faded into Tommy Thompson-like dullness. Duncan Hunter did well and his protectionism may have sounded good to the Michigan audience, but it won't sell to the GOP. Mike Huckabee again did well, but after Ames, he needed a breakout performance and didn't get it -- in part because he didn't get a lot of opportunities to respond. Matthews spent too much time hunting the Great Fred Whale, and coming up empty.

Fred's in now, and he will find new momentum after this performance. Matthews will become more of a joke, if such a thing is possible at a network that employs Keith Olbermann.

UPDATE: Earlier this morning, as Rick Moran reminded me during the Debate Central roundtable, I urged Republicans to engage against Chris Matthews:

Mike Allen at The Politico believes that Chris Matthews will be lying in wait to find a "gotcha" moment for Thompson. Allen thinks it will come from an economics question, but it could just as well come from a foreign-policy query. Matthews has been accused of having a "man crush" on Thompson by some of his critics on the Left, and will no doubt want to establish some credibility with a tough attack on Thompson. Thompson will have an equal opportunity to pop Matthews' bubble by responding calmly and in the same 30-second generalities as everyone else on stage.

I guess I had that about right, didn't I? Also, I suggested that "the candidate who can push back best against Matthews' potential low blows should be strongly considered for the nomination." I think Fred qualifies as someone who can fight for himself.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: fredthompson; matthews; romney; rudy; thompson
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I thought the time was unevenly apportioned between the candidates, and it's confirmed .. with thanks to calcowgirl:

Mr. Giuliani: "... " 43 occurences.
Mr. McCain: "... " 21 occurences.
Mr. Tancredo: "... " 15 occurences.
Mr. Hunter: "... " 11 occurences.

1 posted on 10/09/2007 6:58:48 PM PDT by STARWISE
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To: calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; Bahbah; Fudd Fan; Lancey Howard; Enchante; SE Mom; Laverne; AliVeritas; ..

PING~~!


2 posted on 10/09/2007 7:00:04 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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When asked about war powers, Romney's insistence that he would have to check with his lawyers sounded like he didn't have a firm grasp on the mechanisms of war.

Poor Willard. Maybe next time he'll have a lawyer on stage with him, to hep him wit duh tuf stuff (like high school civics).

3 posted on 10/09/2007 7:03:12 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: STARWISE

My favorite Fred comment was after Matthews said that Fred would have been better served to just answer yes or no, and Fred said, “who asked you?”


4 posted on 10/09/2007 7:03:24 PM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs....doing the job of the media.)
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To: STARWISE
Thanks for the post. Captain's Quarters is one of my favorite sites to visit regularly.
5 posted on 10/09/2007 7:03:46 PM PDT by jdm
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A gift for Slick Willard:


6 posted on 10/09/2007 7:06:33 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: STARWISE; Petronski

I love Captain’s Quarteres..good observations!

Thanks for the ping!


7 posted on 10/09/2007 7:06:45 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Willard, what do you think your powers are in this case?

Ask my lawyer.

Well, Willard, do you need to ask the Congress?

I SAID ASK MY LAWYER!


8 posted on 10/09/2007 7:07:53 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: mware

>> Fred said, “who asked you?”

As I recall, Fred said “Well, that’s your opinion, Chris”.

But if your point is, Fred was in control of the exchange— then I agree completely.


9 posted on 10/09/2007 7:10:35 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: STARWISE

BUMP!


10 posted on 10/09/2007 7:10:55 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Petronski

You know, people keep knocking Fred on lack of executive experience, but Romney and Giuliani lack foreign affairs experience, which I think showed very clearly in the debate tonight.


11 posted on 10/09/2007 7:13:45 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Nervous Tick; All
I think you may be right. Anyone have the transcript of that exchange between Matthews and Thompson

I know I noticed a silence in the audience, who seemed to be waiting for Matthews to "rip

12 posted on 10/09/2007 7:14:02 PM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs....doing the job of the media.)
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13 posted on 10/09/2007 7:15:25 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Nervous Tick
Nope. Fred said, "That's *your* opinion, Christopher!" like a parent chiding a child. :-)
14 posted on 10/09/2007 7:19:36 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: Politicalmom

Thompson did well, and slapped Chris too!


15 posted on 10/09/2007 7:20:51 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Nervous Tick
Just found the quote. It was a beaut.

"No one asked you your opinion, Christopher."

LOL that had to hurt.

16 posted on 10/09/2007 7:21:49 PM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs....doing the job of the media.)
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To: Petronski
I love the fact that they were able to predict that Chris Matthews was going to attempt a ‘gotcha’ with Thompson.

As if that in any way would prove his manliness.

17 posted on 10/09/2007 7:22:19 PM PDT by JRochelle ( Soros is evil.)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for posting. Thank you Ed Morrissey!


18 posted on 10/09/2007 7:22:47 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: mware
WSJ Debate transcript
19 posted on 10/09/2007 7:25:47 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: STARWISE

Great analysis. I watched the debate so fast (with a Tivo control in hand to fast forward through commercials and Ron Paul) that I missed Fred’s gotcha moment with the ‘who asked you’ comment. Might have to go back and catch that.


20 posted on 10/09/2007 7:28:44 PM PDT by altura
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