Posted on 05/27/2008 8:34:18 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
I had intended to do no more than one DUFU edition based on the HBO fiction movie Recount which you can see in yesterday's DUmmie FUnnies EDITION. However, DUmmie Lorien has spun a Florida Recount fiction so egregious in its mendacity that I am not only DUFUing his/her THREAD titled, "RECOUNT: My own Florida election day 2000 nightmare" but I am also calling out DUmmie Lorien as a flat out LIAR. This DUmmie's entire thread post has the odor of fraud hanging all over it but the most blatant indication that it is a LIE is the accusation that on Election Day 2000 in Orange County (Orlando area), a white racist redneck cop stood outside a polling station in a black neighborhood and loudly made fun of voters entering to cast their ballots. DUmmie Lorien claims to have witnessed it but the biggest tell that this is a LIE besides the fact that such a cop would at the least have been reported to the authorities and likely assaulted for his insults is that DUmmie Lorien did not even bother to note the cop's name nor badge number. This is one DUmmie thread that I would like franksolich, the curator of the CONSERVATIVE CAVE, to investigate in detail along with the author, DUmmie Lorien. Perhaps DUmmie Lorien thought that he/she could just post lies in DUmmieland and get away with it. Sorry DUmmie Lorien but your lies are so over the top that I am even encouraging the news media to investigate the charges about the supposed white racist redneck cop outside the polling station taunting black voters on Election Day 2000. Let's see. All DUmmie Lorien has to do is tell the news media at which polling station he/she saw the cop and it should be quite easy to check police records as to which cop was stationed there that day. A charge of voter intimidation narrowed down to a specific location and person. So go ahead news media, check this one out. In fact, I think I will be sending a link to this DUFU edition to the media in the Orlando area. So let us now watch DUmmie Lorien spin Recount LIES in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, calling on the news media to check out this fiction about the racist redneck cop loudly taunting black voters on Election Day 2000, is in the [brackets]:
RECOUNT: My own Florida election day 2000 nightmare
[Stand by for yet more Recount fiction.]
As always, I volunteered with my local Democratic party (Orange county, FL in 2000) during the election year. I was appalled by the attitude of the director of our downtown HQ "Jared" towards Gore: "We won't be focusing on the Presidency here because we can't win it. We'll work for our local candidates instead". Jared stated. He didn't even order more than a handful of Gore bumper stickers or lawn signs to give away to supporters because "signs don't win elections", and what we did have on hand he charged the public for. $5 for a bumper sticker, $10 per lawn sign. Many Democrats who came in left empty handed and grumbling "well, if they are going to take THAT attitude then why bother? I don't have to go anywhere on election day". Despite my hectic schedule as a self employed illustrator and animator, I volunteered to man the front desk and phones just to improve relations and slip good Democrats a few free stickers and signs.
[Charging $5 for a political bumper sticker? I've heard of them selling for about a buck but $5 is mighty steep. Since DUmmie Lorien claims this exorbitant sale price took place at the downtown HQ, this should be easy for the NEWS MEDIA to investigate along with director "Jared."]
But those annoyances were NOTHING compared to what I experienced on election day. I was taken into an all minority section of town to distribute Democratic voter guides (lists of candidates and our positions on the issues) outside of the polling place. I had to stand 20 feet or more from the front door and was eyed warily by the only other white person there, a cop. Once voters started arriving the cop started intimidating them-especially the elderly and women. "What ya gonna do when your boy loses, huh? Ya gonna CRY when your boy loses"? he sneered in their faces. I was absolutely shocked by his behavior ;I had grown up in a liberal college town in the midwest and had never seen such unprofessional and stereotypical "southern white cop" behavior in action before. Hell, I had never even heard a white person utter the "N" word! I turned to my team leader who was there with me (thirty something African American guy) and asked what we can do. He said that all we could do is file a complaint later, and that would probably go no where.
[Here is where DUmmie Lorien steps over the fiction spinning line. Yeah, a white racist cop in the year 2000 can get away with "sneering" into the faces of black voters with no reaction from them. And why didn't DUmmie Lorien simply jot down the name and/or badge number of redneck cop? Of course, no report on this incident back in 2000 when a horde of Gore lawyers were sifting thru the state for the tiniest bit of evidence for voter intimidation and other irregularities. I am hereby calling out DUmmie Lorien as a flat out LIAR and calling upon the news media to investigate his fairy tale.]
I went back to HQ during lunch and told Jared what was happening. "We're getting a lot of complaints from every minority precinct about police intimidation, but there are so many other problems right now we can't deal with it" he didn't elaborate. I went back into a storage room for bottled water and found the 20' canvas overpass sign I had worked on for a week laying in a corner with my "For I-4 overpass-election day" sign still attached. I asked Jared why it hadn't gone out with the volunteers who were rallying for Gore at strategic areas in the city, and he once again said "nobody cares about signs". Two young male volunteers who were headed out to the overpass heard the conversation and grabbed my massive sign on their way out, thank goodness.
[Orlando police department. You have been accused of voter intimidation on Election Day 2000. I urge you to investigate this to prove DUmmie Lorien to be a flat out LIAR. In fact, I will also be sending a link to this DUFU edition to the Orlando police department. Hmmmm... Could there be a lawsuit for making fraudulent allegations about a police department?]
I went back to the polling place. The cop was still there, still getting in the voters faces. By 5:30 the traffic had really picked up, and suddenly we were being told that our poll would close at 6 instead of 7 like every other poll. My team leader was on his walkie talkie and cell phone, and he persuaded the poll workers to stay open another hour as REQUIRED BY LAW. Near 6PM all hell broke loose. Suddenly he and I were swarmed with voters who looked desperate. They had all been told by the poll workers that they had come to the wrong place to vote, and that the "right" place was across town. Since most had either come on foot or used public transportation, it was unlikely that they would get there in time. Dozens were heading home. My team leader and I told them all to stay with us, that their votes were important and we would find a way to fix this. He made many more calls and within minutes a fleet of church busses arrived. They were loaded up and took off, but didn't get far; the cops pulled our buses over and demanded to see their "taxi licenses". They forced the passengers off the buses when the drivers couldn't produce any.
[Yeah sure. A redneck cop in a black neighborhood is somehow going to get away with "getting in the voters faces" all day. I somehow think NOT. And no reports about this redneck cop until now. DUmmie Lorien, I hope you are prepared to name the polling station so the Orlando police department can investigate your fiction. Your election 2000 "nightmare" hasn't even started to begin, DUmmie Lorien.]
I went home for dinner, very discouraged, and found a message from one of my students on my voicemail. He sounded very upset and asked that I call back before the polls closed . It was 9pm, but I called anyway. He answered in a tense, tired voice. His story was just a capper to the day. He's was in his mid 20s, white, and registered as a Democrat for the first time eight months earlier (he had been an independent). He received his voter card in the mail, which told him to go to the same polling place where he had voted in the past. When he arrived at 9am they asked to see his ID. His name and address matched their records, but the woman signing him in stopped, then gave him an odd smile and said "you won't be voting today"." Why not"? asked my student "I have my voter card, my ID, all the information is correct on that sheet of paper in front of you-why can't I vote"? "You just can't Not today". she repeated, then nodded towards a cop who was standing by the door. The cop came over and said "Time to leave, son. You won't be voting today" My student protested so the cop took him by the arm and escorted him out of the building "Don't come back. It ain't worth your time". the cop said as he pushed him out the door. My student simply couldn't believe what had just happened. He went home and called everyone he could think of, but every voter, state official and democratic office line was busy. At eight PM he had been able to leave a message on a machine for the Orange county elections board. Days later he was asked to sign an affidavit about his experiences, but of course there was no way for him to vote at that point.
[And of course this student never noted the name nor badge number of this intimidating cop. Again, we want the polling station and name of the student to check out this piece of fiction as well.]
Naturally I wasn't surprised by what followed. I was shocked, however, that NONE of these local stories made it into the Orlando Sentinel or any other Florida papers or news outlets. Thousands of affidavits had been signed, but the media didn't give a crap. I marched on Tallahassee on inauguration day with thousands of others. I had made many protest signs, some of which called out the media for their GOP bias, and I handed them out to my fellow protesters from Orlando. We were at the head of the march and very visible to the media, so I was pulled aside by several reporters and asked about my signs. I repeated to them what I told you here, and I asked them to look into all those signed affidavits by disenfranchised voters. Days later I could find only one significant story on page 14 of the Orlando Sentinel that even mentioned our march. I could be seen with my sign in the photo that accompanied it, but there was no mention of voter fraud, just "voter anger". Fed up, I started to send out our story to political websites. BushWatch made it into a feature story, and soon I was contacted by Greg Palast of the BBC. He documented everything and followed up with several emails. He is still the ONLY reporter who has shown any real interest in it.
[And of course you never contacted at that time any of the media with information about the redneck cop taunting black voters. A situation that so "shocked" you that you didn't even note the name nor badge number of the outrageously racist cop. Riiiiiight!]
So understandably I get very, very pissed off whenever I hear someone say " Florida went for Bush in 2000". Even during the hellish hurricanes of 2004-three of which hit my home- I was told BY DUERS that I and every other Floridian deserved to be wiped off the map because we "gave" the election to Bush. I still hear this crap spewed on DU from time to time. If my story doesn't reinforce the realities of that day, maybe the movie "RECOUNT" will; Florida went for Gore but was stolen By BushCo. Many, many of us fought for our party and our country, and we don't deserve disrespect or outright hostility because they had the media and the Supreme Court in their pockets. Let's do all we can to not allow it to happen again
[Good news, DUmmie Lorien. By stupidly posting an absurd story about a racist cop openly taunting black voters on Election Day 2000, you may well have your "shocking" charges investigated. Of course, you will be able to supply simple details such as the location of the polling station where this incident supposedly occurred? Or will you have a convenient memory loss. And now on to the DUmmies swallowing this ridiculous story...]
The fix was in. I hope that someday the stories of you and millions of others will be collected and published and actually reported by journalists.
[I hope so too. Please, news media, investigate DUmmie Lorien's charge about the racist cop openly taunting black voters all day on Election Day 2000.]
My next door neighbor is the news director for our local PBS station, and even she won't do a story about it because her boss-a repug-won't allow those kinds of stories. Neither she nor her top reporters even knew that these things had happened!
[Yeah, PBS is a notorious hotbed of "repugs."]
It's horrible. My mother and sister have similar stories from Ohio in 2004. Gore Vidal talks about it. The story was suppressed and Congress sat on their hands. Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have done nothing about it.
[I call on both Hillary and Barack to investigate this redneck cop fairy tale.]
I think of Florida as being stolen by the efforts of Jeb and the Supreme Court putting their stamp of approval on it. Thanks for your efforts that day too.
["Efforts" that failed to take note of the name or badge number of a redneck cop taunting black voters all day.]
NOTHING will change until the truth is acknowledged.
[I would love either the news media or the Orlando police department to check out the "truth" of DUmmie Lorien's charges.]
Please send this off as an OP to as many newspapers as you can think of. It is an important experience and we need to keep shoving it in front of the American public's collective face.
[Yeah, send it off to all those newspapers. I would love for them to investigate that redneck cop fairy tale. In fact, if you don't, I will.]
I think someone should make a collection of these recollections for publication. Everyone needs to hear about these stories.
[Especially the redneck cop fairy tale. That should be an EASY one to investigate. DUmmie Lorien, even though you were too conveniently lazy to note the cop's name or badge number, surely you remember the polling station where the incident supposedly occured ALL DAY on Election Day 2000. I'm sure the Orlando police department would like to find out who that racist cop was...IF he ever existed in the first place. Hee! Hee!]
Your story literally brings tears to my eyes. The last 8 years have left me numb. I can't even bring myself to get fired up over the upcoming election. I'm just going through the motions at this point.
[There might well be some legal motions filed against DUmmie Lorien.]
In the final weeks he jacked up the price to $8 for a sticker and $20 for a sign. Democrats aren't the wealthiest lot, so that was a bit uncalled for. It turned voters off, and that, I believe was a very bad thing indeed. I personally bought muffins and other bakery items from Costco and sold them at the front desk, using the money to buy stickers and signs for those who wanted them but couldn't pay. It was a matter of public relations and gaining support, not merely an issue of how effective signs are.
[LOL! Not content with claiming that a mere Gore bumper sticker sold for $5, DUmmie Lorien now alleges the price was finally boosted to 8 bucks. Riiiight! And you were stupid enought to have a bake sale to buy those 8 dollar bumper stickers? Riiiight! If Jared were such an idiot whom you disliked, why didn't you just give those bumper stickers away for free? Or was Jared hovering over you all the time with a sales sheet?]
I was standing by the front desk one evening when a middle aged couple came in for signs and button. They were told that that would be $25.00 for one of each.
[This is even FUnnier than the bumper sticker fairy tale. $25 bucks for a lousy campaign button. Did this make the Guinness Book of Records? It might cost that much for campaign campaign buttons way back in the past but for a CURRENT campaign?]
It was our local rank and file Fascists that stole 2000 and 2004And how they were all co-ordinated, I'll never know I guess. The cop, the election worker, even the do nothings in local dem management, the religious righties. They must have been under instructions to foul up things however they could because they are the ones who were at fault for most of it.Sure, the voters were caged and the machines were rigged but it seemed like the rank and file zombies in our midst they were the ones who robbed us
[Stabbed in the back by secret Rovian agents. Paranoia they name is DUmmie.]
I still think that "Jared" was a mole while the rest of us were making phone calls, stuffing envelopes, delivering absentee ballots, etc. he was always there reading CNN online or surfing the net. He wouldn't place orders for supplies for weeks at a time. He pissed off voters who came in to volunteer. I locked horns with him many times, but he would never take any kind of significant action personally to help the cause. I wonder who the hell had put him there. The cops and election workers were quite obviously organized by someone, but who? We may never know how many agencies were in on it.
[And quite obviously the cop who you accused of harrassing voters and "Jared" both have grounds for suing you, DUmmie Lorien. Hmmm... It shouldn't be hard to find "Jared" since you claimed he was the director of the downtown Orlando Democrat HQ in 2000 and I'm sure you can remember the polling station where the redneck cop was harrassing the voters...unless you had a very convenient memory loss.]
I am Tired of the Right Telling Me "To Get Over It!" We must never forget that we all got screwed by Bush and co! I won't ever"get over it!" I know if we get over it that it will happen again and again.
[Hey, I'm giving DUmmie Lorien the opportunity to PROVE his/her accusations. I ENCOURAGE the news media to contact this DUmmie to verify the story. Hee! Hee!]
VIDEO -- next time, we need cameras at every polling place Whenever something like this happens, it needs to be taped. And blasted to the media.
[You don't need video. It should be easy enough to track down that redneck cop who supposedly harrased minority voters on Election Day 2000. Also it shouldn't be too much of a problem to track down stab-in-the-back "Jared" who charged $25 for a campaign button. Now we can find out if both were secret Rovian agents working actively to undermine Al Gore in Florida in 2000.]
Everyone should have a camera with them this time around. Up the memory in your phone cameras if it is indeed expandable, carry extra media with you if you can. We can't let this happen again, and this time around, our candidate is either black or female. It's going to be a wild ride.
[I'm just hoping that DUmmie Lorien can up the memory in his skull to the point he can remember where the redneck cop was harrassing the black voters as they meekly refused to protest their treatment or even report him. ...Okay, gang, I'm calling BS on DUmmie Lorien's Recount fairy tale. This DUFU edition is going out to the news media. The allegations of DUmmie Lorien are so outrageous that they MUST be investigated. BTW, the redneck cop should be fired not only because of his unprofessional conduct but also because he demonstrated incredible STUPIDITY by risking the loss of his pension for harrassing voters all day. Of course, this is assuming the cop even exists which is a mighty big assumption.]
My next door neighbor is the news director for our local PBS station
Orlando’s PBS station has a NEWS DEPARTMENT? What is it... the local CPUSA’s branch? The 2 TAMPA PBS stations doesn’t have a news department.
He went to Jared!
(He went to Jared...)
The DUmmies never met a 'Gore' they didn't like...
I found this picture of Jared on line....
You would probably be the best investigator of this farce! Maybe this “Lorien” is so obscure, and the DU so far off the radar of the police, that the authorities just don’t have a clue this is being bandied about on the internet. Bring it to their attention, by all means....lets see what happens!
I am sure that if a cop made fun of voters then, his name AND face would have been all over the TV news and print news! They never missed an opportunity to show how “put-upon” they were...when the authorities could find NO evidence of voter fraud or intimidation....except by the lefties themselves!
They can only whine...it’s their only weapon...while we have THIS ultimate weapon! LOL!
I think our response should be to have them point to any legitimate recount that shows Gore won. I have spend years explaining the 2000 Bush win but nothing gets through. Asking for them to provide which recount declared gore the winner seems to stop them in their tracks because at that point there is only data and not emotion to deal with.
He was in a SUBWAY having a $5 footlong sub.
It’s mythology, but mythology that fits a template, i.e. that all Republicans are Bull Connor (never mind that the real Bull Connor was a Democrat), and America is forever stuck in 1961 Mississippi, which is why helpless black people forever need the intercession of white liberals.
Now I ask, how can anyone vote under those conditions, really.
moonbat mocking --- *off*
If I remember correctly, of all the recounting done by various members of the press after this whole mess came to an end...the only method by which Gore would have received the nomination was the the method suggested by George Bush. And then it was by only 1 vote.
Ironic to be sure, but did the media give it any significant play? Nope.
(Rolling Stone - (Posted Oct 06, 2004) - By MATT TAIBBI)
My cover story was a travesty, an idiotic tissue of halfhearted lies. I said I was a New York City schoolteacher named Tom Hamill, in Orlando to spend a summer with a girlfriend who was from the area. It was the best thing I could come up with to explain my Northern accent, my lack of local connections and all that free time.The story's only saving grace was that the truth was so much more unbelievable. Republicans are paranoid enough to expect a mole from the Kerry campaign, but I was far worse than that -- a dissolute, drug-abusing anarchist who reads the battle diaries of Vietnamese generals on rainy days, roots for Russia at the Olympics and once published an article titled "God Can Suck My D**k." I was, in short, the most offensive individual who could conceivably be planted in the campaign of George W. Bush. I was tempted to feel guilty about this. But in the end I figured that it was only fair. Since John Ashcroft has made it easy for FBI agents to infiltrate anti-war groups, it seemed to make sense that an anti-war journalist should infiltrate Ashcroft's party.
Great minds think alike. (see Post #28)
Isn't this illegal within a certain distance of the voting areas? What will be fun is to have about half of the idiot libs pumping up this idea. Then tell the other half the evil conservative Repugs are going to polls to video tape people so as to intimidate the voters. Also tell them that the video taping group is going to claim to be good liberal progressives. Then watch the fun happen as the one group of liberals start beating up the other group of liberals for video taping polls.
I saw a cop at the DMV in Texas when Motor Voter came into being. I was renewing my license.
He said to some people that had paperwork in their hands that they could also register to vote now and to be sure to check the box that says Democrat. He then patted his hand on his gun (TRUE!) while he laughed.
Did he MEAN that he would shoot anyone who didn’t register as Democrat. Most likely not, but the threat was still made. Made me sick. I didn’t report him but I did tell people about it when I got back to work.
I know what Democrats do.
Exactly, they call it “intimidating” voters when you videotape the polls to see if the same people are going to vote at multiple polling places.
Anybody out there have suggestions as to who else to contact?
the director of our downtown HQ "Jared"
Inauguration day he/she marched on Tallahassee ...Days later I could find only one significant story on page 14 of the Orlando Sentinel that even mentioned our march. So he/she has their picture on page 14 of the Orlando Sentinel a few days after the 2001 Inauguration
He/she is/was a teacher (college/Jr. or Community) of a mid 20's student. Some connection to a college here.
From the Florida Election Laws - link below, page #45, 101.051 (2)
It is unlawful for any person to be in the voting booth with any elector except as provided in subsection (1). A person at a polling place or early voting site, or within 100 feet of the entrance of a polling place or early voting site, may not solicit an elector in an effort.....
This DUmmie was breaking the law in the first place. Florida election laws.
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