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Posted on 06/12/2008 1:20:55 PM PDT by SmithL
Hot on the heels of my column yesterday, "Islam in America's Public Schools: Education or Indoctrination?," which included mention of the Islamic Saudi Academy (ISA) in Fairfax, Virginia, comes news that the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom has released its findings from a review of the school's textbooks and found that they promote hatred, intolerance, and violence. As reported by the Associated Press:
-The authors of a 12th-grade text on Koranic interpretation state that apostates (those who convert from Islam), adulterers and people who murder Muslims can be permissibly killed.Lovely stuff, but par for the course for the Saudi government-run school, which has been operating as a base for radical indoctrination and Wahhabi influence within the United States for years - and all under the seeming protection of the State Department.
-The authors of a 12th-grade text on monotheism write that "(m)ajor polytheism makes blood and wealth permissible," meaning that a Muslim can take with impunity the life and property of someone believed guilty of polytheism. According to the panel, the strict Saudi interpretation of polytheism includes Shiite and Sufi Muslims as well as Christians, Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists.
-A social studies text offers the view that Jews were responsible for the split between Sunni and Shiite Muslims: "The cause of the discord: The Jews conspired against Islam and its people. A sly, wicked person who sinfully and deceitfully professed Islam infiltrated (the Muslims)."
More generally, the panel found that the academy textbooks hold the view that the Muslim world was strong when united under a single caliph, the Arabic language and the Sunni creed, and that Muslims have grown weak because of foreign influence and internal divisions.
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“. . . strict Saudi interpretation of polytheism includes Shiite and Sufi Muslims as well as Christians, Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists.”
The little I know about the religion, I can see how Hindus could be deemed polytheistic.
And I’ve seen it logically argued (arguments with which I disagree) that the Christian Trinity is semi-polytheistic.
No clue about Buddhists.
But Jews? GMAFB.
“Panel Findings: Islamic Saudi Academy Textbooks Promote Hatred, Intolerance, and Violence”
We will be discussing this subject until the moment they try to cut off our heads as we wonder why Muslims hate us so much. Our indecisiveness is just beyond belief.
Good Lord, (Allah not included)
We have become so wimpy, that Islam in the politicians minds
could never be a hate crime itself..
What is a hate crime, violence against another for reasons of race religion etc..
Come on Washington, grow a sack!!!
You know what is coming, you can make it better now, later it will be much worse. Islam should be outlawed as a hate crime..let em live in Europe..
It will be like it is in europe now if we don’t wake up.
Gas $7 gallon now, and the workforce is muslim and within the next generation will begin to vote sharia(puke be upon them)law in.
I have faith that Heaven is much better, but I can’t say we will be around much longer as a country unfortunately. I have traveled worldwide extensively, “there’s no place like home”!!!!
God Bless the USA!!!
Yeah, I’ve never heard even the most radical Muslims say that Jews were polytheistic. That’s a new one. Shi’a polytheistic? I’ve never heard that one either, just that they are idolatrous & way out of the bounds of Islam.
I was always told that Christians believe in 3 gods, both by other Jews & Muslims.
“I was always told that Christians believe in 3 gods, both by other Jews & Muslims.”
That’s a nasty slander, rejected by no less than the “RamBam.”
Not sure I understand the trinity concept, but it’s like water, ice, and vapor -— more or less the same thing, different aspects.
I am Christian, and I have no doubt the one and only God, my Lord, is the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob.
In further follow up, and clarification, I can see how the “3 Gods” story gets going, but it is wrong.
My imperfect understanding is that, like Jews, Christians believe that the Messiah shared/will share God’s perfect soul -— the distinction being who the Messiah is.
In Christianity, there is a distinction, theologically, between Jesus and God-the-Father, and technically, Christians worship God by-and-through Jesus, as the high priest, whose sacrifice makes Christians sritually pure so as to ask for forgiveness from God and/or pray to God for other matters. (In short, the last Passover sacrifice.)
The “Holy Spirit” is the spirit of God-the-father that comes forward and helps Christians (who listen) know the will of God-the-Father. Never could figure out why this counted as a “third”
Not a religious scholar here. Just my redneck understanding.
Maimuni said that Christians are idolators. But Islam & Christianity serve HaShem’s purpose in bringing the gentiles closer to the true religion that will culiminate in the times of Moshiah.
I never learned much about Christianity, so I won’t argue details of the religion with you. My world consisted only of Jews & Muslims.
I am surprsed that RamBam’s kid would say that, still, Jr. had a rough life in Egypt, colored by the ignorance of the times and the resulting persecution.
That said, I understand there are intractable differences between Jews and Christians (and I have ZERO interest in pushing my religion on others), but I think SOME rundamentary understanding (understanding, not belief) of the theology of others goes a long way in preventing conflict.
In that vein, I’ve been reading the Talmud (in English) for that reason. Bought a JCC study book and just started at the beginning.
Periodically pray for understanding.
Theologically, for Christians (who know what they are talking about), it goes like this:
1. God is God. One God. No other God. Same God that promised Abraham, wrestled with Jacob, and plucked Daniel from the den of lions.
2. The promise to Abraham is a valid and binding promise (more on this later); covenent of Sinai a valid and binding deal, etc. (Sinia for Jews, Noahadic for everyone else).
3. The prophets were speaking from God, etc.
In sum, the entire “old testament” is true, correct, and completely valid. Jews were/are the Chosen People, the Apple of God’s eye. (Christians do differ on their interpretations of key prophecies from Jews, and bigoted Christians deny that Jews remain the Chosen People -— a position not backed up by the scripture, but you will sure find them, probably in response to this post.)
____ Now here is where the differences start _______
4. Christians believe Jesus is the Mesiah, and, as such, shared God’s perfect soul. He was different than God, in that he prayed to God, did not directly effect the material world, etc, except by-and-through the power/authority of God. (Not sure I understand the fine points of this.)
5. Christians believe Jesus is, in effect, a perfect King and replacement for the Aaronic priesthood at the same time -— e.g., the connection to God. This is why Christians pray “in Jesus’ name.”
6. Chrisitans believe Jesus was killed wrongfully. Jews would say he got what he deserved, as he was spouting heresy.
7. For Christians, the theological impact of this “death of an innocent” fulfils key scriptures, is a mirror of what God did not require Abrham to do with Issac, and, most importantly, was the ultimate fulfilment of the Mt. Sinai covenent and the “ultimate” Passover. (This is why Easter generally coincides with Passover.)
Trivia: the “Last Supper” was a Passover meal -— incomplete, with the final cup not drunk (to be completed upon return). “Communion” or “The Lord’s Supper” is similarly a truncated Passover ritual.
8. For Christians, the theological impact of this was to open up direct access to God to everyone on an equal basis. They are “ritually pure” by accepting the sacrifice of Jesus, and can thus repent (and be heard by God), and otherwise seek to conform themselves to God’s will (the “Holy Spirit”) — still not sure why that counts as a third.
9. Christians believe they get into heaven by essentially an extension of the promise to Abraham — they are “grafted on” to the promise -— basically Jews by adoption.
10. Christianity is not, as some state, a “license” to do whatever you want. Mere “faith” may get a Christian into heaven, but “faith without works is dead” and not a proper fulfillment of a Christian’s obligations.
In short, While there is not a codified checklist like the 614 Mitzvah, there is still the obligation to conform to God’s will, with at least Eartly punishment for sins. The 614 (with the exceptions of those related to ritual purity -— e.g., food -— with the exception of meat with “lifeblood” which remains, although most Christians don’t realize that) remain a handy checklist for behavior and a “safe harbor” if you will. A Christian can muddle through just fine with the summary of “Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and love your neighbor as yourself.”)
That’s it in the basics.
There is bunch of stuff about Mary from Roman Catholics that I do not believe to be valid — I deem it a corruption from pagan Rome related to Diana worship. Opinions differ in this regard, and it distracts from the core above.
We send $300 bill a year to Saudi Arabia for oil so they can build and operate these schools. What a wonderful world!
Maimuni is what we call Maimonides in Arabic. His son we call ‘Abraham Ha’Nagid. Maimuni said that Christians are idolators in the discussion on avodah zarah in the Mishneh Torah.
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