Obama BOGUS Birth Certificate, Why Wont He Come Clean ?

The controversy surrounding Senator Obama's birth certificate continues. Last week we reported that Israelinsider compared the Obama-issued birth certificate to an authentic Hawaiian birth certificate for another Hawaiian individual The authentic one includes an embossed official seal and an authoritative signature -- features that Obama's alleged certificate lack, as well as a certificate number referencing the birth year that was blacked out in the image claimed as genuine by Obama's campaign. According to Hawaiian authorities, authentic certificates are printed and sent by mail: there are no electronic-only copies.

A senior official in the State of Hawaii's Department of Health, Director of Communications Janice Okubo, confirms that the image published and circulated by the Obama campaign as his "birth certificate" lacks the necessary embossed seal and signature. Backing away from a quote attributed to her that the image on the campaign site was "valid," she told the St. Petersburg (Florida) Times in an article published yesterday: "I don't know that it's possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents." There is more surrounding this story that throws doubt about Obama's birth certificate including:

Where is the embossed seal and the registrar's signature? [Required for validity]

Isn't the date stamp bleeding through [in reverse] the back of the document [image] "June [6] 2007?" (Odd since it was supposedly released in June 2008.)

There's no crease from being folded and mailed. [Hawaii requires printing and mailing, according to Okubo. Electronic images are never released, she assured us, nor are they valid.]

Even if it turns out that Obama IS a natural born US Citizen, the question becomes why wont he come clean to the People of this country?:

Suspect Obama birth certificate, not showing required official seal, signature nor certificate number.

A senior official in the State of Hawaii's Department of Health, Director of Communications Janice Okubo, confirms that the image published and circulated by the Obama campaign as his "birth certificate" lacks the necessary embossed seal and signature. Backing away from a quote attributed to her that the image on the campaign site was "valid," she told the St. PetersburgFlorida) Times in an article published yesterday: "I don't know that it's possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents."

Barack Obama has claimed in writing to have a valid printed document: In the first chapter of his book Dreams From My Father, describing his origins, he wrote about finding a local Hawaiian newspaper article about his Kenyan father: "I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school."

So where is that birth certificate? It got lost? The dog ate it? No matter. Barack Obama or an immediate family member can plunk down $10 ($11.50 if he orders online) and have Hawaii mail a certified document to him within a week or two. But more than two weeks have passed since the Obama campaign adopted the suspect, uncertified image of a purported birth document published by a left-wing blog Daily Kos, and nothing certified and nothing on paper has since has been forthcoming. Nor has there been any official comment about the issue from the campaign. They may cling to the hope -- however audacious -- that the one issue that could disqualify their man constitutionally from gaining the presidency will just go away.

Amy Hollyfield of the St. Petersburg Times, and a reporter for the paper's "Politifact" blog, said that she has been seeking the birth certificate "for months." She was frustrated: "Hawaii birth certificates aren't public record. Only family members can request copies, so when the campaign declined to give us one, we were stalled."

Finally, the campaign released the image (resembling the one at the top of this article). Hollyfield e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real.

Israel Insider contacted Okubo several days. She could not refer to Obama's specific case, she said, because no one but an authorized family member can do so. But she did confirm that a valid "certification of live birth" would need to have an embossed seal and signature and that it can only be printed and mailed. There is no such thing as an electronic only certification.

In our previous article on this subject we published an example of a certified birth certificate of another Hawaiian citizen, Patricia DeCosta, reproduced below. The stamp and signature are reversed because the embossing is done from the back as per law, as Okubo noted is required by law.

Speaking to National Review Online, Okubo admitted that the Obama image lacked those required features but thought that perhaps the embossing was applied too lightly.

Maybe so, but all the certificates we have seen have the embossed imprint clearly visible, as well as horizontal fold marks.

There's only one way for Obama to show he's a natural born citizen eligible to be President: produce the paper proof.

We got an email yesterday from Bryan Suits who has a radio show on KFI Los Angeles. He writes:

"I have just received my State of Hawaii certified birth certificate for my 1964 debut on the planet earth. It looks....nothing like Obama's. We've scanned it at 72dpi, 300dpi. Nuthin. We can't make the emboss disappear. Also, we can't make THE FOLDS disappear!! How did FightTheSmears do it?

I got curious when I compared his (with the 2007 date bleed) to my old beat-up1986 copy. then I went online on June 13 and ordered the thing. It got here yesterday tri-folded in a state of hawaii envelope. I called the State and asked if I could get an unfolded copy. No dice.

Hollyfield brings up other issues that her readers raised, although she does not address them or explain them [bracketed comments from Israel Insider]:

• Where is the embossed seal and the registrar's signature? [Required for validity]

• Comparing it to other Hawaii birth certificates, the color shade is different.

• Isn't the date stamp bleeding through [in reverse] the back of the document [image] "June [6] 2007?" (Odd since it was supposedly released in June 2008.)

• There's no crease from being folded and mailed. [Hawaii requires printing and mailing, according to Okubo. Electronic images are never released, she assured us, nor are they valid.]

Hollyfield, frustrated by failing to access the required original, being refused by the Obama campaign, and finding only secondary documents from his subsequent career, asks what's "reasonable" and then claims that skeptics about Obama's published birth certificate believe that there's a conspiracy afoot:

Because if this document is forged, then they all are. If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State's office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.

But Hollyfield is mistaken. There would be no need to invent a conspiracy among officials. All Obama needed to do would be to pass off an uncertified document as being certified. He may have done so unwittingly. Then the rest can follow without any need to conspire with any other official. They just take it on faith that the person is an American citizen.

They don't check about the embossing requirements of the State of the Hawaii. They believe Obama. Why should they doubt him, certainly after he becomes a lawyer and a state senator? The officials believe that the claimed document is authentic, and therefore issue other documents, based on the phony one, buried deep in the documentary chain. Unwitting or not, however, the high stakes for basing one's citizenship on an uncertified birth certificate must be pretty obvious to the campaign now.

Nothing else explains why Obama's campaign refused to release the original paper document, to make this distracting controversy go way. Because Hollyfield is right about one thing:

"If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud."

U.S. citizens who have written to Israel Insider or have posted on the Internet are not satisfied. Ordinary people are compelled to produce certified paper birth certificates to get a passport or a driver's license. Why, people are asking, doesn't Obama needed to show one to run for President?

In a follow-up contact by Hollyfield, Janice Okubo backtracked and qualified, pointing to the main issue that Israel Insider and others have brought into focus [our comments in brackets]:

"I guess the big issue that's being raised is the lack of an embossed seal and a signature," Okubo said, pointing out that in Hawaii, both those things are on the back of the document. "Because they scanned the front -- you wouldn't see those things." [But of course, as in the DeCosta sample and others, you can see it clearly.]

Okubo says she got a copy of her own birth certificate last year and it is identical to the Obama one we received. [Well, "identical" cannot be correct. Her name is not Obama, Her certificate number was not blacked out, and her certificate had the required embossed certification. So she can only be saying that the form looked the same, as she said to the National Review Online's Jim Geraghty.]

And about the copy we e-mailed her for verification? "When we looked at that image you guys sent us, our registrar, he thought he could see pieces of the embossed image through it." [Except that she received only what was published on the Internet and circulated by email, and no "pieces of the embossed image" do come through that. We have published the highest resolution available and there is no trace of embossed seal or signature. Readers can see for themselves.]

Still, she acknowledges: "I don't know that it's possible for us "to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents."

And there you have it. Okubo can't "even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents" because she is not allowed access to Barack Obama's personal records. State law prohibits it.

Only Barack Obama (or another immediate family member) can authorize the release of the paper birth certificate, and submit it to objective analysis. He refuses to do so, even though it would seem to be in his interest to do so, to silence the skeptics, to show that they are wrong and he is right, to settle once and for all that he is a "natural born citizen" entitled by the US Constitution to be President of the United States. Yet there is only silence and inaction from Obama and his campaign on the subject. The palpably uncertified document remains online, with an explanation that refers only to the date of Hawaiian Statehood and an irrelevant passage from the Constitution.

Admitting her failure to obtain a demonstrably authentic birth document for the candidate, Hollyfield falls back at the end of her latest article into her reliance on the "straw man" of a conspiracy theory.

And there's the rub. It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice [sic] of the world's biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything's possible.

But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what's reasonable has to take over.

There is not one shred of evidence to disprove PolitiFact's conclusion that the candidate's name is Barack Hussein Obama, or to support allegations that the birth certificate he released isn't authentic.

Here Hollyfield is again incorrect. He didn't release a birth certificate, but an image of a purported "certification of live birth" that contains dubious features, lacks a traceable certificate number and -- as the Hawaiian state official Okubo admits -- lacks the stamp and signature required to make it valid. There need be no conspiracy by state or federal officials, just a willingness to believe Obama and accept an image that might look real but might not be.

If Obama is confident that he has a valid paper birth certificate from Hawaii, it is unreasonable for him to be withholding it.

But if he lacks a valid US birth certificate, and therefore cannot prove that he is an American citizen, then he would have good reason to put up a smokescreen and stonewall as long as he can. He would have good reason to try and slide by, as he may have done in the past, by putting up something that would pass as legitimate to the untrained and uninformed, as the one posted by the left-wing Daily Kos blog did, and which much of the media accepted as such, on his say-so.

Because if Obama lacks a valid birth certificate from Hawaii, it would mean that he has been living a lie his whole life: an illegal alien born outside the country who never obtained American citizenship, never became naturalized, and yet has been passing himself off as a citizen to the Illinois Bar, the Illinois Legislature, the US Senate and now, as a candidate for President.

To give Obama the benefit of the doubt: he may not know that he was not born in Hawaii. This may also be part of the family legend his mother communicated to him. As he himself admits in the first chapter of his Dreams, this would not be the only half-truth or outright life his white family told him. The chapter skips over completely anything about the circumstances of his birth or what preceded it: "First the baby arrived, eight pounds, two ounces, with 10 toes and 10 fingers and hungry for food." Subsequent reports have him born in two different hospitals.

Has Obama -- by the "white lie" of claiming to be born in Hawaii (whether the lie came from him or from his mother) and not Kenya or Canada as some have a suggested -- been misrepresenting himself -- wittingly or unwittingly -- to the people of his state and his nation all along?

If so, he would have every reason to put up a web site accusing his critics of conducting a smear campaign to avoid answering valid questions about his identity and background. He would have every reason to accuse political opponents of planning a campaign that raises these questions -- as if to ask whether a candidate for US President is in fact a US citizen is an illegitimate question.

To this day, the question about Obama's national origins remains unanswered, because the proof offered to date is inadequate, even according to the responsible Hawaiian state officials.

The question is not whether he's black or white or somewhere in between. The question is not whether he's a Muslim or Christian, a Democrat or a Communist. The question is whether he can document that he was born in Hawaii and thus meet the requirements of the Constitution.

Yes, the question about whether the candidate is a natural born American citizen is legitimate. But is Obama?

If Obama lacks a certified Hawaiian birth certificate, he's not a natural born American. If he's not a natural born American, he can't be president. That's the law of the land.

If Obama is a legitimate candidate, a natural born citizen of the United States, he must prove it. If he is not, he must admit the truth, and accept the consequences. Now, not later.

This is a matter of US national security. Because there are people in this world who know the truth and can prove it. They would be able to hold that knowledge and proof over his head to make him do their bidding, or else expose him as a fraud, liar and, yes, an illegal alien. That is not a risk that it is reasonable for the American people to take.

Beyond the vulnerability to blackmail, there is a more fundamental question that must be asked if Obama is not forthcoming in producing the requisite documentation of his citizenship: does the American people really want to elect a man who would conceal his past and identity? Does it want to elect a man who would withhold the full truth and stonewall legitimate questions in his pursuit of the presidency, all the while claiming to be a victim and accusing others of fraud?

Even if it turns out that Obama IS a natural born US Citizen, the question becomes why wont he come clean to the People of this country?:

If he is on the up and up he has nothing to gain by coming clean, right? He has thousands of his opponents running in circles over this thing, why stop them if he knows he's a natural born citizen? The upside for him isn't proving he's right...it's in keeping people busy with their conspiracy theories. It's not like any of the people question his birth cert. would vote for him should he release the original doc, right?

Not only that but, when Birth Certificate-Gate has been blown up to the level of Hurricane Katrina, he will then simply bring out the original birth certificate and make the entire Obama opposition look like tin-foil hat kooks.

All valid objections to his election will be swept aside and labeled Conspiracy Theories.

How could Obama NOT be a U.S. citizen?

Only by having his mother fly out of Hawaii, back to Kenya, to risk her life delivering in a Third World country where Obama, Senior's Wife Number One was waiting to ask who the h*ll that pregnant American was and where Obama's mother would then find out that she is not really Wife 1.0 but, actually, only Mistress 7.1.

Really, what are the chances of that Barack Obama, Sr. would be that stupid?

Slim to none.

By obsessing on technicalities (which will ultimately won't hold water) of why Obama should not be allowed to run, you give the impression that you cannot provide any other reason why he should not be President when there is an entire warehouse of reasons why Barack Obama should not be President.

Missing from this article - is the question of why “African” is shown as race — when “African” is NOT a description of race, nor was that term likely to have been used in that era.

The common terms in that era would have been Negro, Colored or Black.

Secondly — even if the Certificate currently under scrutiny is a forgery, I suspect the Obama mania and reach is capable of “creating” a perfectly “legal” and “official” certificate to replace the current document..

"By obsessing on technicalities (which will ultimately won't hold water) of why Obama should not be allowed to run, you give the impression that you cannot provide any other reason why he should not be President when there is an entire warehouse of reasons why Barack Obama should not be President."

You make good points, except that releasing the fraudulent electronic bc itself is problematic. Hawaii didn't use "African" as a race in the 1960's, for example, and the released bc has no folds from being mailed or certification stamp embossed, as another.

Obama may, as you point out, be able to release his actual real paper bc...but it won't match...can't...match the electronic version posted on Daily Kos due to the above examples.

So even releasing his actual bc won't help him. That would just bring up the question as to why a fake bc was posted on Daily Kos and "verified" on Obama's campaign web site as "Real."

"If he is on the up and up he has nothing to gain by coming clean, right? He has thousands of his opponents running in circles over this thing, why stop them if he knows he's a natural born citizen? The upside for him isn't proving he's right...it's in keeping people busy with their conspiracy theories. It's not like any of the people question his birth cert. would vote for him should he release the original doc, right? "

That's politically naive. Millions upon millions of American voters are centrists who pay little attention to politics, but who wouldn't vote for someone who can't show that he's a U.S. citizen.

Even bringing up the *potential* of such an issue cost Goldwater a large percentage of votes in 1964, and he even scored a SCOTUS ruling in his favor to help put the matter to rest.

Personally, I see this whole issue as a smokescreen to make Obama a “victim,” a ploy right out of Saul Alinsky.

Democrats are very effective painting themselves as “victims” and conservatives too often fall for it, spreading rumors hoping they have teeth.

In the meantime, while desperate searches continue looking for Birth Certificates, Muslim connections and what have you, his Marxist Roots and values receive little attention.

I imagine that if the Right suddenly dropped the Birth Certificate matter, the Obama camp would release something to stir it up again.

The Muslim by birth issue pretty much played out and what happens? The WaPo runs an article from an Obama supporter about all the rumors on FreeRepublic claiming his Muslim roots just yesterday.

Never mind Hawaii, let’s focus on Chicago and what he was doing there these past 20 odd years.

Rank speculation: His father’s race is listed as Caucasian (He was 7/8’s Arab, which makes him only 1/8 Negro). Urkel as just about minus zero street creds as an “authentic” Afro-American. That wouldn’t help.

I’ve seen many posts claiming that he is 7/8th Arab, is there any evidence of this?

This is really getting ridiculous, guys.

Barack Obama, Senior was blacker than 90% of African-Americans and you are speculating that he was "7/8 Arab"?

Compared to Barack Obama, Senior, Jerimiah Wright looks almost as white as the King of Norway.

By obsessing on technicalities (which will ultimately won’t hold water) of why Obama should not be allowed to run, you give the impression that you cannot provide any other reason why he should not be President when there is an entire warehouse of reasons why Barack Obama should not be President.

Politics is perception, not reality. If this guy won’t produce his birth certificate then he cannot (or declines to-) prove he is a citizen. The accusation then becomes, “You say you’re a citizen, prove it.”

The other issue-arguments aren’t obviated or somehow diminished by this matter. It’s like saying if you challenge Obama on energy policy then you can’t ever challenge him on foregn policy. It’s politics. It’s ALL fair game.

So, I say the guy isn’t a citizen. And I say that’s a fairly significant problem for him.

However, the digital certificate that everybody is micro-dissecting did not come from the Obama campaign.

It came from the Daily Kos. (I don't want this post deleted by Admin Moderator for "Daily Kos links not welcomed at FR" reasons so just Google "Obama's birth certificate, by kos, Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 08:44:37 AM PDT" and you will hit the origin of the digital birth certificate in question.)

In addition, I would not put too much stock on the "African is not a race" issue as "race" was a rather loosely used term before the mid-1960's.

On another thread, one poster posted the Daily Kos digital birth certificate and, besides it, posted a genuine certificate (belonging to somebody other than Obama) for comparison in order to show how the Daily Kos certificate lacked the embossed seal, etc., etc.

The funny thing was that the "genuine" certificate that was posted listed the "Race" of the father as "White" but listed the "Race" of the mother as "Caucasian Hawaiian".

Since when is "Caucasian Hawaiian" a race?

It seems that Mainland Whites were listed on Hawaiian birth certificates as being of the "White" race and Hawaiian-born Haoles were listed as being of the "Caucasian Hawaiian" race.

So, place of origin did play a role in what was listed under "Race". Just as a White born on California was listed under "Race" as simply "White" but a White born in Honolulu was listed as a ""Caucasian Hawaiian", a Black born in California may have been listed as simply "Negro", a Black born in Hawaii may have been listed as "Negro Hawaiian" and a Black African born in African may have been listed as simply "African".

Also, while searching through a friend's Ancestry.com account for records of U.S. entries by my family in the 1910's, 1920's and 1930's (my grandfather and my father both studied in the U.S.) the "Race" of my blond and blue-eyed grandfather and father were listed as "Cuban" on the U.S. Customs logs.

There is no such thing as a "Cuban" race any more than there is a "Canadian" race, but, there it was, put there by a U.S. Government employee.

Notice on Obama's official site, his birth certificate says OHBM 1.1 in the lower left corner.
The original document displayed on the Daily KOS website says OHSM 1.1 in the lower left corner.
The million dollar question is: If the Daily KOS document was supplied by a Obama campaign staffer, as was reported, then how on earth can these two documents differ?
There may be a Hawaiian state agency or department with the initials 'OHBM', but I'm not aware of any.
The agency that you request a copy of a birth certificate from is the 'Office of Health Status Monitoring', OHSM.
The genie is out of the bottle now and it's impossible to "take back" the images. They are immortalized all over the web on different sites. Anyone can see this hard proof of skullduggery for themselves.
Why is the certificate # blacked out?
African is not a race! In 1961, wouldn't Negro or Negroid have been used to describe his Father's race instead of African?
Where is the indentation of the official seal and the folded marks, the rest of us have on our valid birth certificate copies?
Last but not least: What are the reverse purple lettering past the last entry line on the lower middle right? What do they mean, and why are they there?

Did Dan Blather's liar/chief forger, Mary Mapes create this bs?
Is this phoney birth certificate just another example of the Real but Fake Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas, the Islamofacist Manchurian Candidate for Changing America?
Compare this doctored and phoney BC with a real one shown below:
Hey Obami, man of undocumented place of birth. You can settle this very quickly. Just authorize the officials in Hawaii to send official copies of your birth certificate to Jim Robinson and other conservative sites. Then, they can post the real authorized copies for everyone to see. We will take up a collection to pay for the authorized copy and Fed Ex overnight delivery to Jim Robinson/Free Republic so you will not have to worry about the cost.

Reality break: We probably have as much chance of seeing a real copy of Obami's birth certificate as seeing John Kerry’s full military record. Kerry refused to release his military records, and Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas, the Islamofacist Manchurian Candidate will probably not show his BC. We will be labeled as racists for daring to question his birth place. The lying spinning MSM will continue to cover for Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas.

I suspect the document was doctored in some fashion, but not totally manufactured. It is my recollection that in the 1960’s if the birth mother was not married, the father’s name was listed as ‘unknown.’ This was routinely done even if the father was indeed known.

Further, the child’s surname would have been, in that case, ‘Dunham,’ and not Obama. With an Anglo name like that, it is my further speculation that the birth mother actually named him Barry, this being buttressed by the fact that he was known as Barry in his early youth. So at some point he was able to produce something that changed his name, or he just started using a different name, and that was honored.

Personally, I have done name changes for people late in life whose names as used in life differed significantly from their birth records and made social security or a deed or other old document an issue.

But then the real question comes around again that there is a fundamental lack of integrity in this man that surfaces again and again. He knows that the public reaction to Hillary’s misspeaking about Bosnian sniper fire was devastating. It was understandable by the general populace. Altering a public document, and a prosecutor could argue that even blacking out the certificate number is such an alteration, is a criminal fraud. Everyone will understand that.

A lie is still a lie.

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