Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Being a citizen is not sufficient for holding the office of the President.
Otherwise we’d probably have a Schwarzenegger/McCain RINO ticket...
-PJ
Hopefully, I've answered your questions about who these people are.
-PJ
FReepers are the BEST!
Cyropeadia, see #1640
However if he was really born in 1964 as claimed here on this site, url below, then it wouldn't have been late:
http://www.mydamnchannel.com/blog/tag/Stanley%20Ann%20Durham%20Soetoro/page/1/default.aspx
Notice they claim that he was 3 years old in the picture and he looks like he is 3 years old there and they state that the picture was taken in 1967. Again 1967-3=1964.
1964 does not equal 1961.
There is that 3 year discrepancy and the 3 years between whether the mother was 18 or 21 and the 3 years between when his named biological father was reportedly in the US and when he was reportedly in Kenya.
3 year differences again and again.
Well, I actually do have a full-time job, and have to scramble to catch up on this everyday...
Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro is (was)the mother of President hopeful and Senator Barack Obama. Born in 1942 in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, Stanley Ann Dunham attended the University of Hawaii in the late 1950's. It was during her study in UH that Ann Dunham met Barack Obama's father Kenyan student Barack Obama Sr. and got engaged, (became pregant)and later married (maybe, he was already married with children in Kenya)at an age of 18 in 1960. Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. divorced in 1965, (do bigamists get a divorce?)when he left for Harvard University to continue his education.(Obama Snr commenced Harvard in 1962) In 1967 (I THINK IT WAS 1968)when Barack Obama was 3 years old (he was SEVEN)
What a load of tripe! (bold is mine) -----------
Obama's book and his campaign have both claimed that Obama was approximately 2 years old when his father abandoned the family. This claim is not true. Obama Sr. graduated from the University of Hawaii in June, 1962. He entered Harvard that fall. He deserted young Obama when Obama Jr. was barely 1 year old. Neil Abercrombie said of Barack Sr., "I know he loved Ann," but "I think he didn't want the impediment of being responsible for a family. He expected great things of himself and he was going off to achieve them." This is the guy who Obama romanticized in his first book, writing, "It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself..." -- some role model -- Obama Sr. selfishly abandoned his family. Anna will file for divorce in 1964 and remarry two years later, when her son was 5.
could you give me a link to that image please?
http://www.mydamnchannel.com/datastore/UserFiles/obama%20and%20mom.jpg
do you mean this one, from the website you linked? If that’s the one, there’s nothing I can see that identifies when it was taken.
The site does however claim that he was 3 in 1967 which wouldn't fit in with a 1961 birthdate, it would mean he was born in 1964, just as the date that his father left to attend Harvard of 1965 doesn't fit in.
Obama Sr. leaving when Obama was 1 year old would fit in with either leaving in 62 when Obama was born in 61 or leaving in 65 if Obama was 1 year old in 64.
Should read if he was born in 64.
If we could know the date for certain that would help though.
Interesting that now we have a discrepancy between when Obama Sr. supposedly began at Harvard too and left his wife.
You could be correct that the site is just apparently wrong on everything.
I think he does.
Look at the caption they give that picture on the chicago tribune site: www.chicagotribune.com/.../2007-03/28585960.jpg
"A young Barack Obama is shown with his mother, Ann, in Hawaii shortly after his father, Barack Obama Sr., left the two to pursue his studies at Harvard. Barack's mother was given the name Stanley Ann Dunham because of her father's strong desire to have a son."
I know that she was kind enough to post a copy of her CoLB where the certification number was still visible.
Secondly, I know that she is not running for President of the United States.
Obama, on the other hand, is the Democratic Party's nominee for the Oval Office, and stands a damn good chance of becoming our next Commander-in-Chief.
If you tried to submit a CoLB where it was required for a job or endeavor, and it had the certification number blacked out, they throw it right back your face and ask you what kind of stunt you were trying to pull.
Yet we let Illinois' Junior Senator slide just because he's running for President...??
That doesn't make sense, -and it's certainly not right.
Now, if Obama could just follow Ms. DeCosta's example... :>)
I am inclined to think that most of the captions to obama images are quite meaningless.
That would also explain routine discrepancies in the reporting of his age.
One site claims he was 3 in 67.
His birth certificate says he was born in 61.
The other site says that he went to Indonesia in 67 when he was 6 after his parent's marriage failed.
Would his parents marriage have failed though in 62 or 65?
Those are the alternate dates listed for when his dad went to Harvard.
Could he have been 6 sometime between 62 and 65 rather than 67 as mentioned in the article and could he have been born before Hawaii was a state?
Didn't Obama support an interpretation of natural born as including born in a US territory outside of a military base?
It has been mentioned on this thread that he was told by an advisor not to answer a question about Hawaii's statehood right?
A real birth certificate needed to answer all of these questions I guess.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/14/politics/main3831108.shtml
If that other site was to be correct on Obama being 3 in 1967 and if Obama's reported biological father left in 62 to Harvard then could Barack have a different father?
http://www.mydamnchannel.com/blog/tag/Stanley%20Ann%20Durham%20Soetoro/page/1/default.aspx
Doesn't seem this second site is correct though.
Would be a lot easier if they would just produce an easily authenticated birth certificate.
This would mean that she was born in 1963. So how could she have been a baby in this picture where Obama looks clearly older than 2 years old?
If Obama is over 4 years old in this picture as he appears wouldn't that mean that he was born before Hawaii became a state?
It appears that there is a larger than 3 year age difference between Obama and Maya from the picture.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/05/08/1210291434_9729/539w.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/05/09/sharing_dreams_from_his_mother/&h=408&w=539&sz=37&hl=en&start=53&tbnid=Ooxr3_GkvMgdPM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=132&prev=/images%3Fq%3DBarry%2Bsoetoro%2Bchildhood%26start%3D40%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/14/politics/main3831108.shtml
This would put her birth year as 1963. In the picture of her as a baby though Obama appears older than 3 years old. There appears to be more than a two year age difference between the two children. If so he would have been born before 1960. Could Obama have been born in Hawaii before it became a state?
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