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Execution set for today for Mexican man (Illegal alien murderer)
Denver Post ^ | 08-05-08 | Denver Post Wire Report

Posted on 08/05/2008 7:08:19 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe

NUEVO LAREDO, Mexico — Texas officials cleared the way Monday for the execution of Jose Medellin, one of 51 Mexican nationals on U.S. death row, for his role with five other members of a Houston gang in the 1993 murder and rape of two teenage girls.

The Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles on Monday rejected Medellin's request for a reprieve. Medellin, 33, is scheduled to die by lethal injection at 6 p.m. CDT today.

The decision violates the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, according to the International Court of Justice. President Bush ordered Texas to comply with that decision, but the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the treaty couldn't dictate state court actions.

For more background on this story.......

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5922356.html


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; buhbyetoananimal; crimaliens; deathpenalty; deathrow; illegalalien; immigrantlist; immigration; judiciary; medellin; worldcourt
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1 posted on 08/05/2008 7:08:20 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
Medellin, 33, is scheduled to die by lethal injection at 6 p.m. CDT today.

The ultimate zotting.

Go Texas!

2 posted on 08/05/2008 7:11:02 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: doug from upland

Illegal alien murderer ping.


3 posted on 08/05/2008 7:11:31 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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4 posted on 08/05/2008 7:12:20 AM PDT by bcsco (Obama: SPINciple in chief!)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

“The decision violates the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, according to the International Court of Justice.”

Oh DEAR!!!! NOT the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations!!!!!


5 posted on 08/05/2008 7:13:01 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: rabscuttle385
Medellin, 33, is scheduled to die by lethal injection at 6 p.m. CDT today.

I just may pour a couple fingers of Woodford Reserve in honor. Not of his death, but of Texas ignoring the World Court and doing the right thing. As for his death, it doesn't warrant any special acknowledgment.

6 posted on 08/05/2008 7:15:06 AM PDT by bcsco (Obama: SPINciple in chief!)
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To: WayneS

What isn’t reported here is the fact that he didn’t say a thing about being illegal or ask to talk to the Mexican Consul until he had been on death row for over a year. Seems a little late to me.


7 posted on 08/05/2008 7:15:28 AM PDT by engrpat
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

If the globalist US feds want they could actually stop his execution. Bush could issue a pardon.


8 posted on 08/05/2008 7:16:00 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (A citizen using a weapon to shoot a criminal is the ultimate act of independence from government.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
Bears repeating:

Randy Ertman, father of Jennifer, a 14-year-old girl Medellin raped and murdered, criticized the World Court for attempting to intervene.

"The world court don't mean diddly," he said. "This business belongs in the state of Texas. The people of the state of Texas support the execution. We thank them. The rest of them can go to h-ll."

Adolfo Peña, father of Elizabeth, a 16-year-old girl Medellin also raped and murdered, concurred with Ertman.

"I believe we've been through all the red tape we can go through," he told the Houston Chronicle. "It's time to rock and roll."

9 posted on 08/05/2008 7:18:29 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: bcsco

“As for his death, it doesn’t warrant any special acknowledgment.”

Well, I for one would CONSIDER crossing a street to piss on his grave; but only if I was going in that direction anyway.


10 posted on 08/05/2008 7:18:39 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
This article has a phenomenally bad error. Under the US Constitution, President Bush has no power "to order the State of Texas" to do any particular thing with this or any other criminal matter. Furthermore, this precise issue has been to the US Supreme Court. That Court ruled that under our Constitution, the federal government has no authority over a criminal case in a state.

Any competent reporter would have known about this case. Any honest editor would have insisted that it be included in the current report. I conclude that the Denver Post is both incompetent and dishonest in its reporting.

Congressman Billybob

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11 posted on 08/05/2008 7:18:57 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Why do taglines sometimes just disappear? www.theacru.org)
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To: WayneS
Well, I for one would CONSIDER crossing a street to piss on his grave; but only if I was going in that direction anyway.

You wouldn't have to wait in line...

12 posted on 08/05/2008 7:20:05 AM PDT by bcsco (Obama: SPINciple in chief!)
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To: 3AngelaD

“”The world court don’t mean diddly,” he said. “This business belongs in the state of Texas. The people of the state of Texas support the execution. We thank them. The rest of them can go to h-ll.””

Yep.


13 posted on 08/05/2008 7:21:09 AM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Centurion2000

Virtual popcorn scheduled for consumption at commencement of countdown to American justice...


14 posted on 08/05/2008 7:21:10 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: Congressman Billybob

Are you saying that the Denver Post is [gasp] incompetent? That they are intentionally slanting this story? You’re talking about the MSM now.


15 posted on 08/05/2008 7:21:36 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe ("Victory at all costs...for without true victory, there is no survival." Winston Churchill)
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To: bcsco
Wait till Jimmah gets buried. The 7-11 store in Plains will sell out of six packs.
16 posted on 08/05/2008 7:23:03 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Lethal injection NOT sufficient for the crime. I have a few ideas though...........


17 posted on 08/05/2008 7:23:19 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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To: bcsco
Bump!

We get to off a rapist AND give the Wold Court the finger!

I shall celebrate along with you tonight as well.

18 posted on 08/05/2008 7:25:06 AM PDT by poobear (“…individual salvation depends on collective salvation." Barack Hussein Obama Wesleyan University)
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To: WayneS

Hell, I violate that POS document everyday!


19 posted on 08/05/2008 7:25:06 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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To: 3AngelaD

And that is what is lost in such World Court flippery, the fact that two children are dead, raped and murdered at this person’s hands, he should face the Highest Sanction that the State can provide.

That “court” has no concern for the Rights of his Victims, were the State of Texas does, Texas should impose such sanctions on him, there is no doubt of his guilt, and appealing to the Mexican Consulate is no defense of his rape and torture and murder of those two children.


20 posted on 08/05/2008 7:25:20 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Romans 10.10/Eze 11.2)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Wait till Jimmah gets buried. The 7-11 store in Plains will sell out of six packs.

I'm skeptical about them waiting until the burial...

21 posted on 08/05/2008 7:25:45 AM PDT by bcsco (Obama: SPINciple in chief!)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

This stinking smear of slime actually has a website.

http://www.ccadp.org/josemedellin.htm

Good riddance, Jose.


22 posted on 08/05/2008 7:27:47 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains...)
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To: poobear
I shall celebrate along with you tonight as well.

That ol' Woodford's gonna taste especially good tonight :)

23 posted on 08/05/2008 7:28:44 AM PDT by bcsco (Obama: SPINciple in chief!)
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To: 3AngelaD

“The world court don’t mean diddly,” he said. “This business belongs in the state of Texas. The people of the state of Texas support the execution. We thank them. The rest of them can go to h-ll.”

Well, I believe that boy’s a Texan. God bless that family for having to wait so long to see justice served.

Colonel, Texan.


24 posted on 08/05/2008 7:29:20 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

The only thing these girls did wrong was take a short cut home through the woods. This gang of monsters was in the woods doing who knows what, probably taking drugs. The sooner this guy is dead the better. Go TDC!


25 posted on 08/05/2008 7:30:56 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: bcsco
I just may pour a couple fingers of Woodford Reserve in honor. Not of his death, but of Texas ignoring the World Court and doing the right thing.

You have very good taste in whiskey. I think I may do the same to celebrate Texan independence.

26 posted on 08/05/2008 7:38:40 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (A citizen using a weapon to shoot a criminal is the ultimate act of independence from government.)
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To: bcsco

...and I shall honor Texas tonight with a bit of Rare Breed and a nice cigar.


27 posted on 08/05/2008 7:39:25 AM PDT by WayneS (And now I shall return to my hovel and cling to my guns ... until it is time to go to Church)
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To: Centurion2000; WayneS

Woodford, Elijah Craig and Elmer T. Lee are my go-to bourbons. Everyone’s taste is different, those are just the one’s I’ve settled on. I do have a Montecristo in the humidor but am saving it for my birthday next month. I smoked one on Sunday and have only one left. I’ll have to pass on the cigar tonight. Oh, well...


28 posted on 08/05/2008 7:45:24 AM PDT by bcsco (Obama: SPINciple in chief!)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
... the execution of Jose Medellin ...

Hasta luego, jose. In the words of a seldom used malediction here in my parts, "I hope you die o' the screamin', bleedin' sh!ts."

29 posted on 08/05/2008 7:46:57 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Wait till Jimmah gets buried. The 7-11 store in Plains will sell out of six packs.

ROFLMAO

30 posted on 08/05/2008 7:56:48 AM PDT by E. Cartman (Would you want your surgeon from the bottom 1% of his med school class?)
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To: bcsco

Now that you mention it, I’ve got some Booker Noe at about 121 Proof in my cabinet. I may pass on the Rare Breed and imbibe in a bit of that.


31 posted on 08/05/2008 7:59:15 AM PDT by WayneS (And now I shall return to my hovel and cling to my guns ... until it is time to go to Church)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

32 posted on 08/05/2008 7:59:41 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: bcsco

PS - Elijah Craig is NICE stuff.

I have never tried Woodford or Elmer T.

Which is fine, now I have a goal for the rest of the summer!!


33 posted on 08/05/2008 8:01:24 AM PDT by WayneS (And now I shall return to my hovel and cling to my guns ... until it is time to go to Church)
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To: libh8er

Poor baby!!!!


34 posted on 08/05/2008 8:02:17 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: WayneS
Now that you mention it, I’ve got some Booker Noe at about 121 Proof...

I don't enjoy the heavy stuff very well. Woodford and Elijah are about it for me. But then again, Maker's Mark is like water to me...

35 posted on 08/05/2008 8:05:25 AM PDT by bcsco (Obama: SPINciple in chief!)
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To: Centurion2000
Bush could issue a pardon.

These convictions were of Texas law, in the Texas Court system, they don't implicate any powers of the federal government. (which is why the Supreme Court held that US treaty obligations were of no avail to this miscreant).

36 posted on 08/05/2008 8:07:00 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky

And they don’t let former governors issue pardons.

Good.


37 posted on 08/05/2008 8:08:08 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
Mark Leven on his radio show yesterday described what happened to the girls and how these sweet innocent young girls were brutally killed. Such a sad sad story.

This barbarian must die. I don't care what country he came from.

38 posted on 08/05/2008 8:09:59 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: WayneS
I have never tried Woodford or Elmer T.

Which is fine, now I have a goal for the rest of the summer!!

Go for it! Zum Wohl!.

39 posted on 08/05/2008 8:10:33 AM PDT by bcsco (Obama: SPINciple in chief!)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Go, Texas!
Fling the floodgates to hell wide open, beginning today at 6:00!


40 posted on 08/05/2008 8:12:29 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Fresh Wind
Here's a little excerpt from Jose's webpage, this shows exactly how he feels about his victims:

"The crime I am charged with matters not at this time. I'd rather tell my story on a personal note but every now and then I'll add to my webpage. It depends on how I feel. Give me a chance, let me make a move, I'm sure I can become a worthy friend."
41 posted on 08/05/2008 8:15:06 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Centurion2000

Apparently, according to a recent article, Bush injected himself into this matter by asking Texas to review the case.

But, of course, he remains silent on the matter of Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean. And on the matter of the remaining two Haditha Marines still waiting for charges to be dismissed.


42 posted on 08/05/2008 8:16:00 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

He chose to lie about his status.

Now that he has lost all avenues he admits he was illegal and now wants to speak to his consulate. OR rather his lawyers figured this out at the 11.75th hour.

This was also an attempt to deal a superiority claim to the same international tribunal that has TRIED to intervent before with “stays” to allow review.


43 posted on 08/05/2008 8:29:40 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: bcsco
As for his death, it doesn't warrant any special acknowledgment.

I watched the interview Glen Beck had with the Texas governor last evening. The governor said he would wait until the pardon board made a decision before he decides about a reprieve, but his tone sounded like he had already decided to let the execution proceed today. After learning how the Mexican murderers tormented the 14 year old American girls who they raped, tortured, and murdered I would have no qualms whatsoever about hanging each of them from the highest tree in Texas if I were governor. God didn't give authority to individuals like me to execute murderers. But He did give that authority to government, and in fact He commanded government to do it.

If the Euroweenies don't like the way we handle vicious murderers Bush should tell them to them to tend to their own justice system and we'll tend to ours. But for some reason I can't understand he is so enthralled with anything and everything Mexican that he wants this vicious torturer-rapist-murderer spared his rightful punishment and sent home to Mexico where he would probably be welcomed with a victory parade. I voted for Bush twice and would again given the nature of the Democrat opposition he would surely face, but if there was any acceptable alternative in the primary I would vote for him or her instead of Bush.

44 posted on 08/05/2008 8:30:38 AM PDT by epow (Choose ye this day whom you will serve....but for me and my house we will serve the Lord)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

> Wait till Jimmah gets buried.

I think Jimmah should be embalmed like Lenin, Mao and Ho Chi Minh.


45 posted on 08/05/2008 8:30:46 AM PDT by Revenge of Sith
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
There are plenty of reports of gang violence south of the border. According to this Daily Telegraph Article:
Since January, more than 1,300 people have been killed in execution-style hits or gunned down in fire fights, which often rage for hours in broad daylight and turn residential neighbourhoods into war zones. If the trend continues, 2008 will top last year's toll of 2,500 deaths in drug-related killings.
You don't hear so much about Americans at the Border. Too bad.

Americans are regularly abused. According to this article entitled US Warns Tourists of 'Small-Unit Combat' at Mexico Border -- Murder and kidnapping of Americans has become routine all along the US Mexican border. According to the State Department sometimes heavily armed attackers wear the uniforms of the Mexican police or military. According to Mexicans their military has even become part of the problem.

If there is silence about events at the border. The silence about killings north of the border is deafening. And yet....

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says Think about it. A man or woman killed in Iraq or Iran in the line of duty is a hero. But what is an American killed at home by an illegal alien because the government has failed in its sworn duty to guard the borders. This is a pact between the sovereign and the person has paid taxes and loyalty. The answer is to that question is pretty awful. And it bodes ill for the republic.

But is it true?

Yes, according Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa.When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans--but by no means all -- being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Why isn't there an outcry in the black community? Beats me.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs. One woman in San Francisco who had her family killed by an illegal is even demanding the city to drop its sanctuary city status.

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. If you check the links you'll notice that its McCain who cites Chertoff. See also here and here Here is more info from Judicial Watch.

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower. Sadly, so many small towns and villages across America have sent their warriors off to war half way across the world only to see communities fill up with illegal aliens.


46 posted on 08/05/2008 8:36:08 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: epow

I hear ya. And IMO you can replace “Bush” with “McCain” and I’d feel the same way. In fact, I’m not voting for President as it stands now. And with every drop in the polls that Barry incurs I feel more confident in that decision.


47 posted on 08/05/2008 8:43:42 AM PDT by bcsco (Obama: SPINciple in chief!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The lines will be a lot longer in Arkansas when slick passes on. Years ago I made my sons promise that if I outlived clinton and was too infirm to transport myself that they would make sure I got there to piss on his grave.


48 posted on 08/05/2008 9:00:43 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Revenge of Sith

From his appearance, he may already have been.


49 posted on 08/05/2008 9:09:50 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: WayneS

Almost exactly what I told a co-worker yesterday, except I did not mention the cigar. I do have a fresh box of assorted cigars I ordered off of Rush’s site, so I believe I’ll light one up myself.


50 posted on 08/05/2008 9:36:20 AM PDT by Verbosus
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